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Old 04-07-2008   #61 (permalink)
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sound like something you can't know , so why making it up
Stop trolling. It is stated clearly in the OP that this is a theory.

If we only discussed what we knew, the board would be dead.
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funny you took only this part of the post
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If by "owned" you mean "watch you make contradictory excuses to further your incorrect theory", you're right.

Wrath Buu didn't absorb Fat Buu because "he was in great danger", or because Fat Buu was stronger than he is. Period. Wrath Buu doesn't have any more "oh, he'll know because I want him to know" abilities than Kid Buu. So your excuses fail.

Supreme Kai hung around for thousands of years with a guy stronger than Super Saiyan 3 Goku, yet thinks Puipui is deadly. Yeah, right. Oh, and one Kai just happens to be 100 times stronger than another. Nope.

Kid Buu supposedly absorbs South Kai "because he's in great danger, so he has to!". Uh-huh. Then he faces the MUCH weaker Daikaioh, and absorbs him. So even though Daikiaoh is stated to be weaker than South Kai alone, much less "Buff Buu", Buu must somehow be weaker than he is, and "in great danger". This is hilarious.

Bottom line is, your "absolute fact" that Buu only absorbs people stronger than he is fails. It's not fact; it's just the way you want it to be.
Alright, you want me to crush you, I'll just do it.

I already said, Buu is himself, he said himself he gave a special treatment to Fat Buu because he knew absorbing would make him stronger.

Yes, for him Puipui is a danger since Puipui is a mortal with a great power. You have nothing to prove the South kaioshin wasn't many times more powerful than the south one. Don't just say know without any argument to back it up.

We see when Buu absorbs someone, the person has an influence on his personalty. When he absorbs Piccolo he comes smarter, when he absorbed the Dai Kaioshin he becomes more gentle. He absorbed the South kaioshin who was extremely powerful, he absorbed the Dai Kaioshin because he had the South one within him and the Kaioshin were like a family and the Dai Kaioshin was a father figure to them so that's why Buu chose to absorb him.

I correct myself, Buu absorbs when he's outmatched or when emotion prevents him to kill.

Buu absorb the South Kaioshin- Too powerful for him

The Dai Kaioshin- emotion

Gotenks- Gohan was too strong

Gohan- Gohan was too strong

Vegeto- Too powerful for him

Himself- He absorbed himself in order to be more powerful.

Now come with real arguments or I'll just own you badly.

Now you perfectly Buu doesn't absorb for fun and there could have been only two reasons as to why he absorbed the South Kaioshin, it wasn't just for fun, it wasn't because of emotion, it was because he couldn't kill him because he was as strong or at least in the same league as Chibi Buu.

You have nothing to prove the South Kaioshin isn,t in the SSJ3 league while I have everything to prove he is. So proof or don't say pointless and completely useless and irrelevant arguments.
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funny you took only this part of the post
It's because your English is so bad, I honestly couldn't understand the rest of your post.

Otherwise, I would have addressed it.
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It's because your English is so bad, I honestly couldn't understand the rest of your post.

Otherwise, I would have addressed it.
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I don't know what you're laughing at.

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this was just what his body remembered that before he absorb the fat kai (in this case mr buu) he was at the buff form but since the south kai doesn't exist anymore , he don't stay at this form

Does not make sense and is very hard to understand.
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ok forget it
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What about not being able to lift the Z sword?? Does that count for South Kaioshins weakness?
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What about not being able to lift the Z sword?? Does that count for South Kaioshins weakness?
It's never stated whether or not he even tried removing it, as it is pointed out that "Every Kaioushin-sama that had tried to remove the sword had failed", NOT "Every Kaioushin-sama has tried to remove the sword and failed".

This implies that there were Kaioushin-sama that had not attempted to remove the Zed Sword at all, and considering that the Zed Sword has been in existence for 15 generations (due to Rou Dai Kaioushin-sama's own statement), that means that there have been several other Kaioushin-sama before the most recent generation.

For all we know, after all the time that had passed between its creation and during the reign of the most recent Kaioushin-samas, it's possible that the desire for removing the sword had just diminished to the point that they stopped trying all together.
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It's never stated whether or not he even tried removing it, as it is pointed out that "Every Kaioushin-sama that had tried to remove the sword had failed", NOT "Every Kaioushin-sama has tried to remove the sword and failed".

This implies that there were Kaioushin-sama that had not attempted to remove the Zed Sword at all, and considering that the Zed Sword has been in existence for 15 generations (due to Rou Dai Kaioushin-sama's own statement), that means that there have been several other Kaioushin-sama before the most recent generation.

For all we know, after all the time that had passed between its creation and during the reign of the most recent Kaioushin-samas, it's possible that the desire for removing the sword had just diminished to the point that they stopped trying all together.
I think that someone considered the strongest Kai would try to lift the sword just to prove himself.

Countless Kai's were unsuccesful and he might succed but he decides not to lift the Z sword. Nah.
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Didn't the Z-Sword increases the power of the one who release it? If so I can see why South Kaioshin didn't try to release it since he was already too powerful and then let others, weaker Kaioshins try.

Is it stated that Dai Kaioshin is weaker than South Kaioshin?

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You didn't read the manga it seems.
The proof is Chibi Buu was there healthy and laughing but Goku almost couldn't keep on his feet. Though there is no need to argument since we are in the same side of the discussion.
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Didn't the Z-Sword increases the power of the one who release it? If so I can see why South Kaioshin didn't try to release it since he was already too powerful and then let others, weaker Kaioshins try.
And when they failed he still didn't lift it.
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Didn't the Z-Sword increases the power of the one who release it? If so I can see why South Kaioshin didn't try to release it since he was already too powerful and then let others, weaker Kaioshins try.

Is it stated that Dai Kaioshin is weaker than South Kaioshin?



The proof is Chibi Buu was there healthy and laughing but Goku almost couldn't keep on his feet. Though there is no need to argument since we are in the same side of the discussion.
No, but it is stated the South Kaioshin is the strongest, thus we can imply the the Dai Kaioshin is weaker.
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Cheers Majuub, its real good to see you back dude.

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And I like how you keep saying that Kid Buu doesn't have any intelligence, then you try to insist that he thinks logically enough to "absorb people stronger than he is, but ONLY people that are stronger than he is".

Majuub pretty much cleared all that up.
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Your theory is full of holes. That makes you wrong.
Its logical dude. Think about it Kid Buu knows when his getting knocked about he isn't a complete idiot, he has some kind of recollection of his actions and thoughts.
-He fell asleep in-front of Son Goku to show, he was bored, not impressed by his power.
-He teleported to numerous planets sensing high powers levels in order to sense Son Goku and Vegeta. Using the Instant transaction technique.
-He tried to stop the Spirit Bomb as it was hurled against him, as knew it was a strong force to be reckoned with.

Kid Buu isn't as stupid as you think. He may not have gone into degrees in thinking about the battles he was having, or analyzing everyones battle strength, but he does know when his beat, and I sure he knows what his doing. When Son Goku executed a Kamehameha wave at him, Kid Buu did the same. If Kid realizes that all his attacks aren't doing anything to him, he tries to absorb. Super Buu's original form wasn't that smarter than Kid Buu yet he still exploded to give his body a wide radius to absorb.
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Wrath Buu didn't absorb Fat Buu because "he was in great danger", or because Fat Buu was stronger than he is. Period. Wrath Buu doesn't have any more "oh, he'll know because I want him to know" abilities than Kid Buu.
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- They were two sides of a coin, one cannot exist (true form) without the other. His idea was for them to be one once again.
Okay let me explain better. Buu of wrath is apart of the original Majin Buu: Kid Buu. So is Fat Buu. They have a memory, if not of anything else of what they were Kid Buu. Buu of wrath seemed to want to form that image of its former self once more. Is that really so hard to understand? He wanted to be Kid Buu again, not to gain power if you believe he was already stronger than him, or gain better techniques but to reform the original form. He was per say the evil part yang and Fat Buu was originally the good yin, and
nothing is entirely yang or entirely yin: Kid Buu.
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So your excuses fail.

Dude stop calling all over comments back to your excuses, it’s a discussion were not in court. To add it’s getting annoying when you’re doing the precise same thing we are.

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All of this makes me wonder how the freaking fugg Bibidi created the fucker in the first place.

Because he wanted revenge on the Kais.
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SSJ2 Gohan > South Kaioshin
If they said that many tried then that counts for the south kaioshin too as he was the strongest
Since he wasn't able to pull it out and Gohan was..........
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