ANB's master-piece PL

ANB · 01-30-2008

-Freeza-

Farmer: 5
Radditz: 1,210

Piccolo: 322
Piccolo No weights: 408
Special Beam Cannon: 1330
After-math (w/weights): 329

Son Goku: 334
Son Goku No weights: 416
Kamehameha: 924

Son Gohan: 1
Distress: 710
S.O.B (Sporadic Outrage Boost): 1307

Muten Roshi: 139
Kuririn: 206
Tenshinhan: 250
Yamcha: 177

*Invasion*

Piccolo: 1,220
Full-Power: 3,200
Tenshinhan: 2,000
Chi-Kung-Pow: 3,500
Healthier (Hypothetical): Over 7,000
Yamcha: 1,500
Chiaozu: 900
Self-Destruct: 1,440
Saibamen (6 in all): 1,210
Self-Destruct: 1,950
Nappa: 4,000
Full-Power: 7,364

Gohan: 981
S.O.B Masenko: 2,800
Weakening (Said he "couldn't even run" and Vegeta was dissapointed): 1,870

Kuririn: 1,083
Full-Power: 1,700
Kakusandan: 14,529
Individually split: 1,815
Weakened: 500

*Quiet Rage, Desperate moves*

Son Goku: 8,100
Kaio-ken: 12,150
Nappa: 7,364
Vegeta: 9,250

Son Goku: 8,100
Kaio-Ken: 12,150
Two-fold (stated to not be able to keep up w/ Vegeta): 16,200
Three-fold: 24,300
+Kamehameha: 53,460
Four-Fold: 32,400
+Kamehameha: 71,280

Vegeta power-up: 18,500
Gyarraku Ho: 53,460
Weakened: 15,000
Power-Ball: 12,000
Oozaroo: 120,000
Goku trashed: 17
Tail-inert: 9,600!

Kuririn: 1,700
Weakening (One Kick and he didn't move. Could still go to Goku): 1,214
Salvaged Genki-Dama: 12,480
Healthy (Hypothetical): 25,000
Vegeta fried: 3,700
Gohan Enraged: 3,000
Oozaroo: 30,000
Vegeta squished: 81

*Namek's three-way-war*

Vegeta: 24,000
Kiwi: 18,500
Dodoria: 21,000
Zarbon: 22,000
Transformed: 33,600
Freeza Flunkies: 1,100
Stronger Flunkies: 2,600
Apple: 3,300
Namek Warriors: 1,000
Full-Power: 3,000
Gohan: 1,500
Kuririn: 1,500

*No more excuses*

Vegeta Zenkai: 40,320
Zarbon Transformed: 33,600
Gohan Potential: 15,000+
Kuririn Potential: 14,000+
Gurd: 10,000
Reccoome: 50,000
Full-Power: 60,000
Fighting Bomber: 80,000
Vegeta weakened: 20,000
Son Goku: 5,000
Kaio-Ken burst: 135,000
Jeice: 50,000
Burter: 55,000

Freeza: 265,000
Nail: 42,000
Arm-loss-chi-sap: 35,000

Goku: 90,000
Kaio-ken two-fold: 180,000
Ginyu: 120,000
Gyoku: 23,000
Kuririn: 27,600
Gohan: 30,000
Vegeta Zenkai (Was tired and couldn't access full-power): 230,000
Full-Power: 460,000
Freeza: 530,000
Gohan (Stated to still improve): 100,000
Kuririn (Stated to still improve): 90,000

*Nightmare Battle*

Freeza: 1,100,000
Gohan S.O.B: 1,254,000
Freeza powered up: 1,300,000
Piccolo: 63,000
Absorbing Nail: 1,690,000
Freeza Full-Power (Piccolo could still defend himself): 1,930,000
Form 3: 2,703,000
Piccolo full-power, no weights: 2,432,000
S.O.B Masenko: 2,700,000
Vegeta: 3,400,000

*Who gets to be the strongest???*

Freeza (unkown percentage): 4,000,000
-50%: 90,000,000
-100% (chi-fatigue): 170,000,000
Son Goku: 4,000,000
-Kaio-ken: 6,000,000
-x10: 40,000,000
-x20: 80,000,000
-Weakened: 3,000,000
-Kaiok-en x20+Kamehameha: 75,000,000
-Super Saiyajin: 175,000,000

*Grave Warning*

Cyborg Freeza: 117,000,000
-Full-power (hypothetical): 234,000,000
King Kold: 120,000,000 (Power was compared to Freeza who was 50%)
Trunks: 5
-Actual Base: 5,600,000
-Super Saiyajin: 140,000,000
Flunkies: 10,000-60,000
Goku: 6,000,000
-Super Saiyajin: 240,000,000
Piccolo: 3,500,000
Tenshinhan: 42,000
-year and change after Freeza: 100,000
Vegeta: 3,400,000

*It is time...we fight!*

Yamcha: 500,000
No #20: 65,000,000
-Yamcha absorb: 70,000,000
Goku: 15,000,000
-Super Saiyajin: 100,000,000
-Kamehameha: 444,000,000
-Fatigued: 80,000,000
-Healthy Super Saiyajin (hypothetical): 300,000,000
No #19: 50,000,000
-Kamehameha absorb: 90,000,000
Vegeta: 13,000,000
-Super Saiyajin: 342,000,000
-Drained: 171,000,000
-Big Bang Attack: 513,000,000
Piccolo: 9,000,000
-Drained: 6,000,000
-Weights: 200,000,000
-Full-power: 250,000,000
No #20 w/Piccolo energy: 100,000,000

*UNDER SRS CONSTRUCTION. EVERYTHING SUBJECT TO CHANGE*

**Zer0** · 01-30-2008

Finally...

Personally I'd place Chaozu's Kamikaze Technique a bit higher judging from Pikkoro's reaction.
No Bejita power-up in the Saiya-jin Arc?
Elaborate plz on the Kaio-Ken issue.
Bejita after the 2nd Zenkai that much stronger than Zabon transformed?
Elaborate plz on the Ginyu Special Corps not being equal.
Why is Furiza (1st Supression) so close to Pikkoro in power?
Elaborate plz on the bottom area.

ANB · 01-30-2008

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Originally Posted by Zer0

Finally...

Personally I'd place Chaozu's Kamikaze Technique a bit higher judging from Pikkoro's reaction.
No Bejita power-up in the Saiya-jin Arc?
Elaborate plz on the Kaio-Ken issue.
Bejita after the 2nd Zenkai that much stronger than Zabon transformed?
Elaborate plz on the Ginyu Special Corps not being equal.
Why is Furiza (1st Supression) so close to Pikkoro in power?
Elaborate plz on the bottom area.

1-I decided 1.6 will be a consisten muliplyer for Kamikazies. As for Piccolo...well...one could argue Tenshinhan's ki-ko-ho was = Chiaozu's attack by that logic. Considering the damage done to Boo, however, it certainly is possible.

2-Oh, you mean when he caused lightning storms. Will add.

3-Just wondering how some people fail to figure out Goku's kaio-ken x4 Kamehameha attack in the Daiz is 32,000, but working backwards we see that it actually ignores the kamehameha (divide by four, you get 8,000). That is why it is so high on my list.

4-It's only 1.2

But I guess it looks more like 1.14...quite debatable.

5-Kuririn said "around" correct me if I'm wrong. Jeice seems to be the nub of the group. Reccome's "Fighting Bomber" attack is either him at full-power or similar to what Vegeta did after being hit by the Genki-dama. Debatable.

6-When Piccolo is at full-power, it is 1.26. He still had his weights on when Freeza was at full-power (second form).

7-Not just Vegeta battle, it's with Freeza too. Goku, desperate because even x20 doesn't work, uses Chou Kamehameha. Does he use x20-boost at the same time....? If so, working backwards, how strong is 1% Freeza while fighting Base Goku...?

warcrack · 01-30-2008

I understand your opinions of the human's power levels, but doesn't Kuririn's leap from about 27,000 to 90,000 during the battle with Freeza a bit of a stretch?

ANB · 01-30-2008

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Originally Posted by warcrack

I understand your opinions of the human's power levels, but doesn't Kuririn's leap from about 27,000 to 90,000 during the battle with Freeza a bit of a stretch?

Was waiting for someone to notice.

Vegeta said that he would need Kuririn and Gohan's help in the battle with Freeza. At that moment, he was also aware of the transformation. In addition, Vegeta mentioned that they were steadily improving ever since Guru.

I don't think he'd ask for their help with power-levels <50,000 >_< Flawed logic.

warcrack · 01-30-2008

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Originally Posted by ANB

Was waiting for someone to notice.

Vegeta said that he would need Kuririn and Gohan's help in the battle with Freeza. At that moment, he was also aware of the transformation. In addition, Vegeta mentioned that they were steadily improving ever since Guru.

I don't think he'd ask for their help with power-levels <50,000 >_< Flawed logic.

Not trying to start an argument, dude.

So, you see Gohan and Kuririn's hidden power awakening in terms of multipliers instead of addition?

initial awakening: around 10,000, give or take
x3:
Ginyu fight: around 30,000
x3:
Freeza fight: around 90,000

**Zer0** · 01-30-2008

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Originally Posted by ANB

Was waiting for someone to notice.

I noticed. I just didn't say anything since I remembered you explained it before.

feon2 · 01-30-2008

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Yamcha: 1,500

He should be close to 1200. He isn´t much stronger than a Saibamen. Something like 1290/1350 will be better, I think.

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Kaio-Ken: 12,150
Two-fold (stated to not be able to keep up w/ Vegeta): 16,200

Kaioken and Two-Fold Kaioken aren´t the same thing?

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Three-fold: 24,300
+Kamehameha: 53,460
Four-Fold: 32,400
+Kamehameha: 71,280

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Vegeta power-up: 18,500
Gyarraku Ho: 53,460

I think this is a bit too high. You put Goku´s Kamehameha above all the Gyniu force (except Gyniu)...

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Healthy (Hypothetical): 25,000

Is the Genkidama that weak? o.o
I think it can kill Oozaru Vegeta.

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Dodoria: 21,000

Hum... Don´t you think he is so close to Vegeta?

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Reccoome: 50,000
Full-Power: 60,000
Jeice: 50,000
Burter: 55,000

Someone said they are arond the same power. But you put Rikum 1.2x stronger than Jeice. This is a quite big diference. And, I think Gyniu said something like "someone with a 60.000 PL can pwn my forces like he did (this isn´t the exact words, but... nah)

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Freeza: 1,100,000
Gohan S.O.B: 1,254,000
Freeza powered up: 1,300,000

I don´t think Freeza powered up after Gohan pwned him... Just an opinion.

Sorry if I look a little harsh. And Sorry for my spelling too =B

But, whatever, this is a good listing. This is very diferent of the generic ones (like my lists =B) 8/10

**LegendarySSJ7** · 01-31-2008

Kuririn's Kakusandan is rather high, but I suppose you could contest that Nappa and Vegeta's gait is what that stems from. I also feel Piccolo is too high for the beating Nappa gave him, a prodigious but largely held back one.

Dodoria is rather high in my eyes, and Zarbon's transformed state is also rather high, considering Vegeta at least made the valid attempt at fighting him when he knew how outstripped he was against Reacoom. Vegeta's power level post-2nd auto evolution is also high, considering his attitude and "pre-emptive" strike. Reacoom, Jheese, and Butta were stated to have been on equal ground in a terms of chi, and Reacoom's "fighter bomber", let alone full power... both are far too high, given the later comments (such as Jheese's in regards to Ginyu's guestimation of Goku's power).

Goku's bursts are also rather high, though he was quite placid and nimble. Plus, the battle went drastically divergent from what he foresaw. We don't see him at 85,000 to begin with, with the exception of the prolonged Kaio-ken demonstration. Otherwise, Ginyu's full power estimation is rather baffling and convoluted. I see Nail's drop as bit of an overestimation (but I suppose you could have a quarrel saying either Namekian cells are inherently easy to pierce through and damage, or that some enigmatic, coned element makes them seem older or younger in nature), but that's just me.

Kuririn is far too high in my eyes, as is Gohan, against Freeza in his 1st form or 3rd suppression. I don't see Gohan's angered state to be higher than Freeza's 2nd form, otherwise his comments seem out-of-sync with the events at view. Piccolo before and after absorbing Nail is far too high to me for the near-equal bout with Freeza he had, and Freeza's 3rd stage is far too low for the amount at which he grossly outclassed Piccolo (with a certain mechanical style of speed... there was no reason he couldn't kill Piccolo at that point). I should also add that Freeza just nonchalantly brushes off Piccolo's threat when Piccolo unweights himself, just acting as though the prospect of coveting and winning was coolly far away, and something he could still soldier on through, eventually.

Otherwise, it's not bad. I'd rather not give it a verdict as a standalone until the entire listing is unbounded and dislodged.

NarutoFan · 01-31-2008

You plan on updating your own list, LSSJ7?

**LegendarySSJ7** · 01-31-2008

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Originally Posted by Cheat1011

You plan on updating your own list, LSSJ7?

Less "updating" and more a new listing, though I'd rather go and tweak a few things before sharing it of my own volition, at anyone's leisure, if I am ever going to. If I may also admonish: please keep that kind of thing in PM's for now on.

But, yes, my response stands on ANB's listing.

ANB · 02-25-2008

^Has updated

I have a lot to think about; esp the humans and Gero's absorption methods. Everything past Cell's absorption of 17 up until the Cell Games I have 99.95% completely thought-out. The SSJ multiplyer fluctuates, but eventually becomes smaller. SSJ2 stays relatively large (about 84-fold) since no one masters it. The majin seal still troubles me and then of course if the confirmation of who's SSJ2. SO MANY THINGS!

Would you rather I just put in all I have and then fix things l8r...? I should I continue to beat around the bush and move at my own pace??? Again, I actually have a lot of the later levels, as strange as that sounds, but I feel more inclined to wait until I have everything prior to the next thing.

Shaka of virgo · 02-25-2008

I have an observation: you put Kaioken x 20 : 80 000 000
And Kai o ken x 20 + Kamehameha : 75 000 000

I will think that it should be reverse, the Kamehame ha is higher than his strenght, at least is my opinion base in the battle with Raditz Goku was 416=Kamehame ha 924(and increasing..)

Your Other power levels are Good estimations.

warcrack · 02-25-2008

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Originally Posted by ANB

^Has updated

I have a lot to think about; esp the humans and Gero's absorption methods. Everything past Cell's absorption of 17 up until the Cell Games I have 99.95% completely thought-out. The SSJ multiplyer fluctuates, but eventually becomes smaller. SSJ2 stays relatively large (about 84-fold) since no one masters it. The majin seal still troubles me and then of course if the confirmation of who's SSJ2. SO MANY THINGS!

Would you rather I just put in all I have and then fix things l8r...? I should I continue to beat around the bush and move at my own pace??? Again, I actually have a lot of the later levels, as strange as that sounds, but I feel more inclined to wait until I have everything prior to the next thing.

Take your time (especially with the Earthlings) and post it when you feel you're ready. It's cool to be seeing these new PL listings.

I feel that the Majin seal is just random in terms of power increases.

Gohan, after the Cell Games, only became Super Saiyan 2 once (at the Budokai). Super Saiyan 2 has electricity in the aura. If there's no electricity than it's just the first level. Exceptions (such as Vegetto) don't prove anything. It's that simple.

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ANB (24) Super Saiyan 4 Join Date: May 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 3,003 Rep Power: 47	ANB's master-piece PL -Freeza- Farmer: 5 Radditz: 1,210 Piccolo: 322 Piccolo No weights: 408 Special Beam Cannon: 1330 After-math (w/weights): 329 Son Goku: 334 Son Goku No weights: 416 Kamehameha: 924 Son Gohan: 1 Distress: 710 S.O.B (Sporadic Outrage Boost): 1307 Muten Roshi: 139 Kuririn: 206 Tenshinhan: 250 Yamcha: 177 Invasion Piccolo: 1,220 Full-Power: 3,200 Tenshinhan: 2,000 Chi-Kung-Pow: 3,500 Healthier (Hypothetical): Over 7,000 Yamcha: 1,500 Chiaozu: 900 Self-Destruct: 1,440 Saibamen (6 in all): 1,210 Self-Destruct: 1,950 Nappa: 4,000 Full-Power: 7,364 Gohan: 981 S.O.B Masenko: 2,800 Weakening (Said he "couldn't even run" and Vegeta was dissapointed): 1,870 Kuririn: 1,083 Full-Power: 1,700 Kakusandan: 14,529 Individually split: 1,815 Weakened: 500 Quiet Rage, Desperate moves Son Goku: 8,100 Kaio-ken: 12,150 Nappa: 7,364 Vegeta: 9,250 Son Goku: 8,100 Kaio-Ken: 12,150 Two-fold (stated to not be able to keep up w/ Vegeta): 16,200 Three-fold: 24,300 +Kamehameha: 53,460 Four-Fold: 32,400 +Kamehameha: 71,280 Vegeta power-up: 18,500 Gyarraku Ho: 53,460 Weakened: 15,000 Power-Ball: 12,000 Oozaroo: 120,000 Goku trashed: 17 Tail-inert: 9,600! Kuririn: 1,700 Weakening (One Kick and he didn't move. Could still go to Goku): 1,214 Salvaged Genki-Dama: 12,480 Healthy (Hypothetical): 25,000 Vegeta fried: 3,700 Gohan Enraged: 3,000 Oozaroo: 30,000 Vegeta squished: 81 Namek's three-way-war Vegeta: 24,000 Kiwi: 18,500 Dodoria: 21,000 Zarbon: 22,000 Transformed: 33,600 Freeza Flunkies: 1,100 Stronger Flunkies: 2,600 Apple: 3,300 Namek Warriors: 1,000 Full-Power: 3,000 Gohan: 1,500 Kuririn: 1,500 No more excuses Vegeta Zenkai: 40,320 Zarbon Transformed: 33,600 Gohan Potential: 15,000+ Kuririn Potential: 14,000+ Gurd: 10,000 Reccoome: 50,000 Full-Power: 60,000 Fighting Bomber: 80,000 Vegeta weakened: 20,000 Son Goku: 5,000 Kaio-Ken burst: 135,000 Jeice: 50,000 Burter: 55,000 Freeza: 265,000 Nail: 42,000 Arm-loss-chi-sap: 35,000 Goku: 90,000 Kaio-ken two-fold: 180,000 Ginyu: 120,000 Gyoku: 23,000 Kuririn: 27,600 Gohan: 30,000 Vegeta Zenkai (Was tired and couldn't access full-power): 230,000 Full-Power: 460,000 Freeza: 530,000 Gohan (Stated to still improve): 100,000 Kuririn (Stated to still improve): 90,000 Nightmare Battle Freeza: 1,100,000 Gohan S.O.B: 1,254,000 Freeza powered up: 1,300,000 Piccolo: 63,000 Absorbing Nail: 1,690,000 Freeza Full-Power (Piccolo could still defend himself): 1,930,000 Form 3: 2,703,000 Piccolo full-power, no weights: 2,432,000 S.O.B Masenko: 2,700,000 Vegeta: 3,400,000 Who gets to be the strongest??? Freeza (unkown percentage): 4,000,000 -50%: 90,000,000 -100% (chi-fatigue): 170,000,000 Son Goku: 4,000,000 -Kaio-ken: 6,000,000 -x10: 40,000,000 -x20: 80,000,000 -Weakened: 3,000,000 -Kaiok-en x20+Kamehameha: 75,000,000 -Super Saiyajin: 175,000,000 Grave Warning Cyborg Freeza: 117,000,000 -Full-power (hypothetical): 234,000,000 King Kold: 120,000,000 (Power was compared to Freeza who was 50%) Trunks: 5 -Actual Base: 5,600,000 -Super Saiyajin: 140,000,000 Flunkies: 10,000-60,000 Goku: 6,000,000 -Super Saiyajin: 240,000,000 Piccolo: 3,500,000 Tenshinhan: 42,000 -year and change after Freeza: 100,000 Vegeta: 3,400,000 It is time...we fight! Yamcha: 500,000 No #20: 65,000,000 -Yamcha absorb: 70,000,000 Goku: 15,000,000 -Super Saiyajin: 100,000,000 -Kamehameha: 444,000,000 -Fatigued: 80,000,000 -Healthy Super Saiyajin (hypothetical): 300,000,000 No #19: 50,000,000 -Kamehameha absorb: 90,000,000 Vegeta: 13,000,000 -Super Saiyajin: 342,000,000 -Drained: 171,000,000 -Big Bang Attack: 513,000,000 Piccolo: 9,000,000 -Drained: 6,000,000 -Weights: 200,000,000 -Full-power: 250,000,000 No #20 w/Piccolo energy: 100,000,000 **UNDER SRS* CONSTRUCTION. EVERYTHING SUBJECT TO CHANGE*** __________________ Last edited by ANB; 02-25-2008 at 07:46 PM.

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Zer0 Super Moderator Join Date: May 2006 Location: Hn, None of your business Posts: 10,193 Blog Entries: 4 Rep Power: 148	Re: ANB's master-piece PL Finally... Personally I'd place Chaozu's Kamikaze Technique a bit higher judging from Pikkoro's reaction. No Bejita power-up in the Saiya-jin Arc? Elaborate plz on the Kaio-Ken issue. Bejita after the 2nd Zenkai that much stronger than Zabon transformed? Elaborate plz on the Ginyu Special Corps not being equal. Why is Furiza (1st Supression) so close to Pikkoro in power? Elaborate plz on the bottom area. __________________ Want a colored username? Then check out the Weekly Naruto & Bleach Caption Contests.

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warcrack (20) Super Saiyan 2 Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: NJ Posts: 1,309 Rep Power: 10	Re: ANB's master-piece PL I understand your opinions of the human's power levels, but doesn't Kuririn's leap from about 27,000 to 90,000 during the battle with Freeza a bit of a stretch? __________________

01-31-2008	#9 (permalink)
LegendarySSJ7 Moderator Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: LA, CA, USA. Posts: 2,746 Rep Power: 49	Re: ANB's master-piece PL Kuririn's Kakusandan is rather high, but I suppose you could contest that Nappa and Vegeta's gait is what that stems from. I also feel Piccolo is too high for the beating Nappa gave him, a prodigious but largely held back one. Dodoria is rather high in my eyes, and Zarbon's transformed state is also rather high, considering Vegeta at least made the valid attempt at fighting him when he knew how outstripped he was against Reacoom. Vegeta's power level post-2nd auto evolution is also high, considering his attitude and "pre-emptive" strike. Reacoom, Jheese, and Butta were stated to have been on equal ground in a terms of chi, and Reacoom's "fighter bomber", let alone full power... both are far too high, given the later comments (such as Jheese's in regards to Ginyu's guestimation of Goku's power). Goku's bursts are also rather high, though he was quite placid and nimble. Plus, the battle went drastically divergent from what he foresaw. We don't see him at 85,000 to begin with, with the exception of the prolonged Kaio-ken demonstration. Otherwise, Ginyu's full power estimation is rather baffling and convoluted. I see Nail's drop as bit of an overestimation (but I suppose you could have a quarrel saying either Namekian cells are inherently easy to pierce through and damage, or that some enigmatic, coned element makes them seem older or younger in nature), but that's just me. Kuririn is far too high in my eyes, as is Gohan, against Freeza in his 1st form or 3rd suppression. I don't see Gohan's angered state to be higher than Freeza's 2nd form, otherwise his comments seem out-of-sync with the events at view. Piccolo before and after absorbing Nail is far too high to me for the near-equal bout with Freeza he had, and Freeza's 3rd stage is far too low for the amount at which he grossly outclassed Piccolo (with a certain mechanical style of speed... there was no reason he couldn't kill Piccolo at that point). I should also add that Freeza just nonchalantly brushes off Piccolo's threat when Piccolo unweights himself, just acting as though the prospect of coveting and winning was coolly far away, and something he could still soldier on through, eventually. Otherwise, it's not bad. I'd rather not give it a verdict as a standalone until the entire listing is unbounded and dislodged. __________________ Last edited by LegendarySSJ7; 01-31-2008 at 02:45 AM.

02-25-2008	#12 (permalink)
ANB (24) Super Saiyan 4 Join Date: May 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 3,003 Rep Power: 47	Re: ANB's master-piece PL ^Has updated I have a lot to think about; esp the humans and Gero's absorption methods. Everything past Cell's absorption of 17 up until the Cell Games I have 99.95% completely thought-out. The SSJ multiplyer fluctuates, but eventually becomes smaller. SSJ2 stays relatively large (about 84-fold) since no one masters it. The majin seal still troubles me and then of course if the confirmation of who's SSJ2. SO MANY THINGS! Would you rather I just put in all I have and then fix things l8r...? I should I continue to beat around the bush and move at my own pace??? Again, I actually have a lot of the later levels, as strange as that sounds, but I feel more inclined to wait until I have everything prior to the next thing. __________________

02-25-2008	#13 (permalink)
Shaka of virgo (14) Warrior of Namek Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 366 Rep Power: 3	Re: ANB's master-piece PL I have an observation: you put Kaioken x 20 : 80 000 000 And Kai o ken x 20 + Kamehameha : 75 000 000 I will think that it should be reverse, the Kamehame ha is higher than his strenght, at least is my opinion base in the battle with Raditz Goku was 416=Kamehame ha 924(and increasing..) Your Other power levels are Good estimations. __________________ Train hard and enjoy life, that is the Muten Roshi way.

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Zer0 Super Moderator Join Date: May 2006 Location: Hn, None of your business Posts: 10,193 Blog Entries: 4 Rep Power: 148