Frieza race questions

**Vizard** · 12-23-2007

Do you think Frieza can revert back from his final form to other forms?
(In the manga Zarbon states that frieza can also transform. Zarbon knows because: 1.May have seen it 2.Frieza told him) If the first then Frieza has transformed at some point and reverted back to normal but we don't know for sure.

Do you think King Cold is in his second form? Can he transform like frieza. Maybe go final form? (just your opinions)

And where is it stated that King Cold is stronger than frieza? (a quick refreshment)

**Majuub** · 12-23-2007

Do you think Frieza can revert back from his final form to other forms?

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(In the manga Zarbon states that frieza can also transform. Zarbon knows because: 1.May have seen it 2.Frieza told him) If the first then Frieza has transformed at some point and reverted back to normal but we don't know for sure.

I would bet my money he can revert to his base form since the final one is his true form. He is not like Cell because Cell's body just evolves in the process of absorption and he can't revert.

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Do you think King Cold is in his second form? Can he transform like frieza. Maybe go final form? (just your opinions)

I think he's in his second form, if he was indeed in his first and in the same league as Meca-Frieza, then going to his last form would have helped him resist Trunks much more than that. I doubt he has a 3rd and 4th form since he didn't use them on Trunks.

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And where is it stated that King Cold is stronger than frieza? (a quick refreshment)

It was never stated, Frieza obviously thought he was stronger than his father because he almost implied that he was Number 1. For all we know, their powers are in the same league since it was stated, maybe King Cold has a 3rd form that would give him the edge but I doubt he has a 4th form. The only time it was somewhat stated is when they said ''a power even greater than Frieza's was with him''.

Mystic_Gohan · 12-23-2007

Yeah, I'm pretty sure Frieza's first 3 forms were merely to suppress his power and I'm pretty sure he implied somewhere that he could revert.

About King Cold, I'm guessing he could transform... why he didn't against Trunks was probably because he underestimated him, thinking he was nothing without the sword, before he found out the truth it was too late.

And about Cold being stronger than Frieza, like Majuub said, Vegeta stated in the anime ''a power even greater than Frieza's was with him''. I'd say he's stronger than Frieza... since Frieza usually has hard time accepting that anyone is stronger than himself, even when they actually are.

**LegendarySSJ7** · 12-23-2007

There's no reason Freeza can't. As for King Cold, there's a possibility of the notion that he wasn't born with such huge power reserves - that Freeza was born with larger reserves, which made the need to conserve chi (through his suppression) reach fruition. That Cold had no need, and thusly, no suppressions. Or it could be that Cold took the "Super Saiyan" so earnestly that he took himself, with a swell in tone, to his greatest suppression possible - Stage 2. Or that neither him or Freeza were in their power-reserving states.

As for said "quick refreshment"... well, it's only stated by Yamcha that the two are behemoths, but I just construe this as Yamcha being taken aback by such high powers. Either way, I feel Cold's power was rather disparaging in comparison.

Broly · 12-24-2007

I highly doubt Cold has a transformation. I really think the form he was shown in was his one and only form. Cold's no real dummy. He saw Freeza get wasted, and at best he's around Freeza's Final Form [suppressed]. So, if he could actually transform, he would've done it when he could have, and would not resort to his self-deluded belief in Trunks' sword.

Mystic_Gohan · 12-24-2007

Even if Cold tried to, I don't think Trunks would let him, considering how fast he killed Frieza.

ANB · 12-24-2007

Kold never had time to transform.

Broly · 12-24-2007

He had plenty of time to do it. He stared Trunks down for half a century. Plus he had an ample amount of time to do so right right after Trunks killed Freeza.

warcrack · 12-24-2007

The fact that he beat around the bush by offering Trunks a chance at royalty should show that he can't get any more powerful.

Mystic_Gohan · 12-24-2007

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He had plenty of time to do it. He stared Trunks down for half a century. Plus he had an ample amount of time to do so right right after Trunks killed Freeza.

Like mentioned before, he underestimated him. He probably didn't think he needed to.

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The fact that he beat around the bush by offering Trunks a chance at royalty should show that he can't get any more powerful.

That could've been a trick.

Broly · 12-24-2007

Why would he possibly think he could have a chance? He asked Trunks to join him. He asked him out of sheer fear. The only reason why he underestimated him was because of his self delusion into thinking that the sword was the determining factor in Freeza's defeat. He was clearly out of it, insane if you will.

Mystic_Gohan · 12-24-2007

Well, the only moment he exhibited fear was after Trunks caught the sword, by the looks of it he was pretty confident before that.

Broly · 12-24-2007

Like I said, self delusion. It was only after the sword failed to do the job that his senses were awakened to the stench of reality.

Ubb · 01-05-2008

I haven''t played it in a while but i think in Tenkaichi it said that King Cold never passed the 2nd Transformation

m.collins · 01-06-2008

Yeah he can Frieza's entire family has the abilty to transform here is a list of his family and what form we first see them in
King Cold - 2nd form
Frieza - 1st form
Cooler -4th form - Note Cooler has a 5th form

The strongest is Cooler but i do you that King Cold does have a 3rd&4th form.

12-23-2007	#1 (permalink)
Vizard /gc/ addict Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 4,206 Blog Entries: 6 Rep Power: 219	Frieza race questions Do you think Frieza can revert back from his final form to other forms? (In the manga Zarbon states that frieza can also transform. Zarbon knows because: 1.May have seen it 2.Frieza told him) If the first then Frieza has transformed at some point and reverted back to normal but we don't know for sure. Do you think King Cold is in his second form? Can he transform like frieza. Maybe go final form? (just your opinions) And where is it stated that King Cold is stronger than frieza? (a quick refreshment) __________________ Locke will FUCK your Shit UP!

12-23-2007	#3 (permalink)
Mystic_Gohan (20) Super Saiyan 2 Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,475 Rep Power: 3	Re: Frieza race questions Yeah, I'm pretty sure Frieza's first 3 forms were merely to suppress his power and I'm pretty sure he implied somewhere that he could revert. About King Cold, I'm guessing he could transform... why he didn't against Trunks was probably because he underestimated him, thinking he was nothing without the sword, before he found out the truth it was too late. And about Cold being stronger than Frieza, like Majuub said, Vegeta stated in the anime ''a power even greater than Frieza's was with him''. I'd say he's stronger than Frieza... since Frieza usually has hard time accepting that anyone is stronger than himself, even when they actually are.

12-23-2007	#4 (permalink)
LegendarySSJ7 Moderator Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: LA, CA, USA. Posts: 2,736 Rep Power: 48	Re: Frieza race questions There's no reason Freeza can't. As for King Cold, there's a possibility of the notion that he wasn't born with such huge power reserves - that Freeza was born with larger reserves, which made the need to conserve chi (through his suppression) reach fruition. That Cold had no need, and thusly, no suppressions. Or it could be that Cold took the "Super Saiyan" so earnestly that he took himself, with a swell in tone, to his greatest suppression possible - Stage 2. Or that neither him or Freeza were in their power-reserving states. As for said "quick refreshment"... well, it's only stated by Yamcha that the two are behemoths, but I just construe this as Yamcha being taken aback by such high powers. Either way, I feel Cold's power was rather disparaging in comparison. __________________

12-24-2007	#5 (permalink)
Broly The Desolate One Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: You think I give a shit about where you think I stay? Posts: 7,543 Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 33	Re: Frieza race questions I highly doubt Cold has a transformation. I really think the form he was shown in was his one and only form. Cold's no real dummy. He saw Freeza get wasted, and at best he's around Freeza's Final Form [suppressed]. So, if he could actually transform, he would've done it when he could have, and would not resort to his self-deluded belief in Trunks' sword. __________________ $C:\Users\Silver Platter\Pictures\Broly_SSJ5_by_Gothax.jpg$

12-24-2007	#6 (permalink)
Mystic_Gohan (20) Super Saiyan 2 Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,475 Rep Power: 3	Re: Frieza race questions Even if Cold tried to, I don't think Trunks would let him, considering how fast he killed Frieza.

12-24-2007	#7 (permalink)
ANB (24) Super Saiyan 4 Join Date: May 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 2,992 Rep Power: 46	Re: Frieza race questions Kold never had time to transform. __________________

12-24-2007	#8 (permalink)
Broly The Desolate One Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: You think I give a shit about where you think I stay? Posts: 7,543 Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 33	Re: Frieza race questions He had plenty of time to do it. He stared Trunks down for half a century. Plus he had an ample amount of time to do so right right after Trunks killed Freeza. __________________ $C:\Users\Silver Platter\Pictures\Broly_SSJ5_by_Gothax.jpg$

12-24-2007	#9 (permalink)
warcrack (20) Super Saiyan 2 Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: NJ Posts: 1,309 Rep Power: 10	Re: Frieza race questions The fact that he beat around the bush by offering Trunks a chance at royalty should show that he can't get any more powerful.

12-24-2007	#11 (permalink)
Broly The Desolate One Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: You think I give a shit about where you think I stay? Posts: 7,543 Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 33	Re: Frieza race questions Why would he possibly think he could have a chance? He asked Trunks to join him. He asked him out of sheer fear. The only reason why he underestimated him was because of his self delusion into thinking that the sword was the determining factor in Freeza's defeat. He was clearly out of it, insane if you will. __________________ $C:\Users\Silver Platter\Pictures\Broly_SSJ5_by_Gothax.jpg$

12-24-2007	#12 (permalink)
Mystic_Gohan (20) Super Saiyan 2 Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,475 Rep Power: 3	Re: Frieza race questions Well, the only moment he exhibited fear was after Trunks caught the sword, by the looks of it he was pretty confident before that.

12-24-2007	#13 (permalink)
Broly The Desolate One Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: You think I give a shit about where you think I stay? Posts: 7,543 Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 33	Re: Frieza race questions Like I said, self delusion. It was only after the sword failed to do the job that his senses were awakened to the stench of reality. __________________ $C:\Users\Silver Platter\Pictures\Broly_SSJ5_by_Gothax.jpg$

01-05-2008	#14 (permalink)
Ubb (3) Champion of Justice Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 19 Rep Power: 0	Re: Frieza race questions I haven''t played it in a while but i think in Tenkaichi it said that King Cold never passed the 2nd Transformation

01-06-2008	#15 (permalink)
m.collins (17) Super Saiyan Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 712 Blog Entries: 4 Rep Power: 13	Re: Frieza race questions Yeah he can Frieza's entire family has the abilty to transform here is a list of his family and what form we first see them in King Cold - 2nd form Frieza - 1st form Cooler -4th form - Note Cooler has a 5th form The strongest is Cooler but i do you that King Cold does have a 3rd&4th form. __________________