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(1) Earthling
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Saiyan Saga
---------------------------------------------------------- Raditz Saga __________________________________________________ ________ Raditz: 1250 Son Goku: 334 - Weights off: 416 - Kamehameha: 924+ Piccolo: 322 - Weights off: 408 - Light of Death: 1330 Son Gohan: 1 - Upset: 710 - Enraged: 1307 Muten-Roshi: 139 Kuririn: 206 Turtle: 0.001 Tenshinhan: 250 Yamcha: 177 ----------------------------------------------------------- Vegeta Saga __________________________________________________ _________ Piccolo: 1220 - Full Power: 2400 Son Gohan: 981 - Scared: 1100 - Brave: 1400 - Masenko: 2800 Kuririn: 1083 - Full Power: 1770 - Kakusandan: 2200 - Kienzan: 2000 Tenshinhan: 1830 - Kikouhou: 2600 Chaozu: 1160 - Selfdestruct: 1800 Yamcha: 1480 Saibamen: 1250 Nappa: 4000 - Death Blast: 5000 - Full Power: 8000 - Light Cannon: 10,000 Son Goku: 5000 - Full Power: 8250 - Kamehameha: 10,000 - Kaioken: 16,500 - Kaoken x3: 24,750 - Kamehameha: 34,000 - Kaioken x4: 35,000 - Kamehameha: 45,000 - Genki-Dama: 75,000 Vegeta: 16,700 - Full Power: 18,000 - Gyarikku-Ho: 34,000 - Weakened: 12,000 - After Moon Ball: 10,000 - Oozaru: 100,000 - No Tail: 6000 - After Genki-Dama: 500 Son Gohan: 1200 - Enraged: 3500 - Weakened: 400 - Oozaru: 4000 Kuririn: 1500 - Genki-Dama: 10,000 Yajirobe: 300 ================================================= Freeza Saga ------------------------------------------------- Namek Saga _________________________________________________ Son Gohan(Supressed): 1500 Kuririn(Supressed): 1500 Freeza Soldiers: 500 Vegeta: 24,000 - Zenkai: 32,000 Kiwi: 18,500 Dodoria: 20,000 Zarbon: 22,000 - Transformed: 29,000 ------------------------------------------------- Ginyu Force Saga _________________________________________________ Son Gohan(Guru Power Up); 14,000 Kuririn(Guru Power Up): 12,500 Gurd: 5000 Vegeta: 35,000 Reacoom: 45,000 Son Goku: 5000 - Full Power: 90,000 - Kaioken: 180,000 - In Ginyu's Body: 5000 Jheese: 45,000 Batta: 45,000 Captain Ginyu: 70,000 - Full Power: 120,000 - In Goku's Body: 23,000 Kuririn: 24,500 Son Gohan: 27,000 Vegeta(Zenkai): 250,000 ------------------------------------------------- Freeza Saga _________________________________________________ Nail: 42,000 Freeza(Supressed): 200,000 Vegeta: 480,000 Freeza: 530,000 - 2nd Form: 1,060,000 Son Gohan: 42,000 - Enraged: 950,000 Kuririn: 34,000 Piccolo: 15,000 - Merged with Nail: 1,300,000 - Full Power: 1,600,000 Freeza 2nd Form: 1,060,000 - Full Power: 1,450,000 - 3rd Form: 2,400,000 Son Gohan(Enraged/Masenko): 2,200,000 Vegeta(Zenkai): 2,600,000 Freeza(4th Form): 3,000,000 Piccolo(Healed): 2,000,000 Son Goku(Zenkai): 3,000,000 - Kaioken: 6,000,000 - Kaioken x10: 30,000,000 - Kaioken x20: 60,000,000 - Genki-Dama: 70,000,000 - Super Saiyajin: 150,000,000 Freeza(50% Full Power): 70,000,000 - 70% Full Power: 100,000,000 - 100% Full Power: 140,000,000 - Straining: 120,000,000 - Death Ball: 200,000,000 ============================================== Cell Saga ---------------------------------------------- Trunks Saga ______________________________________________ Future Trunks(Supressed): 5 - Full Power: 5,000,000 - Super Saiyajin: 180,000,000 Cyborg Freeza: 95,000,000 King Cold: 70,000,000 Son Goku: 6,000,000 - Super Saiyajin: 200,000,000 ----------------------------------------------- Android Saga _______________________________________________ Son Goku: 35,000,000 - Super Saiyajin: 300,000,000 - Heart Disease: 100,000,000 Vegeta: 40,000,000 - Super Saiyajin: 320,000,000 - Big Bang: 400,000,000 Piccolo: 200,000,000 - Full Power: 250,000,000 Son Gohan: 5,000,000 Yamcha: 190,000 Kuririn: 250,000 Tenshinhan: 280,000 Future Trunks: 32,000,000 - Super Saiyajin: 280,000,000 Android 19: 100,000,000 - Absobed Kamehameha: 150,000,000 Android 20: 180,000,000 Android 18(Not Full Power): 450,000,000 Android 17: 500,000,000 ------------------------------------------------ Cell Saga ________________________________________________ Piccolo: 250,000,000 - Fused with Kami/Weights on: 400,000,000 - Fused with Kami/Weights off: 500,000,000 - Hell Zone Grenade: 800,000,000 - Weakened: 350,000,000 - Light Grenade: 700,000,000 Imperfect Cell: 365,000,000 Android 17: 500,000,000 Imperfect Cell(Absorbed Humans): 750,000,000 Android 16: 750,000,000 - Hell's Inferno: 900,000,000 Semi-Perfect Cell: 1,150,000,000 - Full Power: 1,500,000,000 Tenshinhan: 280,000 - Shin Kikoko: 200,000,000 Vegeta(Post-RoSaT): 150,000,000 - Super Saiyajin: 950,000,000 - Super Saiyajin Grade 2: 2,000,000,000 - Final Flash: 3,000,000,000 Future Trunks(Post-RoSaT): 140,000,000 - Super Saiyajin: 880,000,000 - Super Saiyajin Grade 2: 1,800,000,000 - Super Saiyajin Grade 3: 2,600,000,000 - SSJ Grade 3 Full Power: 3,500,000,000 Perfect Cell: 1,900,000,000 - Serious: 2,800,000,000 - Full Power: 3,800,000,000 ------------------------------------------------- Cell Games Saga _________________________________________________ Son Goku(Full Power SSJ): 6,000,000,000 - Warp Kamehameha: 9,000,000,000 Perfect Cell: 6,500,000,000 - Full Power: 7,000,000,000 Son Gohan(Full Power SSJ): 6,750,000 Cell Juniors: 2,850,000,000 Vegeta(Post-2nd RoSaT): 260,000,000 - Super Saiyajin: 1,450,000,000 - Super Saiyajin Grade 2: 2,600,000,000 Future Trunks(Post-2nd RoSaT): 250,000,000 - Super Saiyajin: 1,300,000,000 - Super Saiyajin Grade 2: 2,400,000,000 Piccol(Post-RoSaT): 1,400,000,000 - Weight off: 1,800,000,000 Kuririn: 250,000 Tenshinhan: 280,000 Yamcha: 200,000 Android 16: 750,000,000 Son Gohan(Super Saiyajin 2): 60,000,000,000 - Weakened: 25,000,000,000 - Kamehameha: 100,000,000,000 - Father/Son Kamehameha: 200,000,000,000 Perfect Cell: 7,000,000,000 - Full Power: 20,000,000,000 - Buff Form: 28,000,000,000 - Semi-Perfect: 1,500,000,000 - Super Saiyajin 2: 55,000,000,000 - Kamehameha: 140,000,000,000 -------------------------------------------- Back to the Future Saga ____________________________________________ Future Trunks: 400,000,000 - Super Saiyajin: 2,000,000,000 Android 17: 350,000,000 Android 18: 350,000,000 Imperfect Cell: 400,000,000 ============================================= Buu Saga --------------------------------------------- Budokai Saga _____________________________________________ Son Goten: 300,000,000 - Super Saiyajin: 2,300,000,000 Trunks: 320,000,000 - Super Saiyajin: 2,450,000,000 Android 18: 500,000,000 Kuririn: 300,000 Piccolo: 3,000,000,000 Videl: 60 Spopovitch: 30 - Full Power: 5000 Yamu: 5500 Son Gohan: 950,000,000 - Super Saiyajin: 6,800,000,000 - Super Saiyajin 2: 50,000,000,000 --------------------------------------- Babidi Saga _______________________________________ Son Goku: 1,900,000,000 - Super Saiyajin: 14,000,000,000 Vegeta: 1,800,000,000 Pui Pui: 35,000 Yakon: 2,500,000,000 Son Gohan: 950,000,000 - Super Saiyajin: 6,800,000,000 Dabra: 7,500,000,000 Super Saiyajin Vegeta: 11,500,000,000 - Majin Super Saiyajin: 14,000,000,000 - Majin Super Saiyajin 2: 80,000,000,000 Super Saiyajin 2 Son Goku: 80,000,000,000 ------------------------------------------ Majin Buu Saga __________________________________________ Super Saiyajin Son Gohan: 6,800,000,000 Dabra: 7,500,000,000 Super Saiyajin 2 Majin Vegeta: 80,000,000,000 - Final Explosion: 150,000,000,000 Majin Buu: 6,000,000,000 - Powered Up: 65,000,000,000 - Enraged: 250,000,000,000 Son Goku: 1,900,000,000 - Super Saiyajin: 14,000,000,000 - Super Saiyajin 2: 80,000,000,000 - Super Saiyajin 3: 350,000,000,000 Majin Buu: 250,000,000,000 Gotenks: 70,000,000,000 - Super Saiyajin: 400,000,000,000 Fat Buu: 100,000,000,000 Evil Buu: 150,000,000,000 Super Buu: 2,000,000,000,000 ------------------------------------------------- Super Buu Saga _________________________________________________ Gotenks(RoSaT Training): 125,000,000,000 - Super Saiyajin: 550,000,000,000 - Super Saiyajin 3: 2,500,000,000,000 Super Buu: 2,000,000,000,000 Mystic Son Gohan: 3,200,000,000,000 Tenshinhan: 500,000 Super Buu: 2,000,000,000,000 - Absorbed Gotenks & Piccolo: 2,503,000,000,000 - Absorbed Piccolo, Goten & Trunks: 2,004,000,000,000 - Absorbed Mystic Son Gohan/Piccolo/Trunks/Goten: 5,204,000,000,000 Vegetto: 3,000,000,000,000 - Super Saiyajin: 16,000,000,000,000 ------------------------------------------------- Kid Buu Saga _________________________________________________ Son Goku: 1,900,000,000 - Super Saiyajin 3: 350,000,000,000 - Losing Power: 150,000,000,000 - Super Saiyajin: 14,000,000,000 - Genki-Dama: 1,000,000,000,000 Vegeta: 1,800,000,000 - Super Saiyajin 2: 80,000,000,000 Fat Buu: 100,000,000,000 Kid Buu: 150,000,000,000 -------------------------------------------------- Final Budokai Saga __________________________________________________ Son Goku: 5,000,000,000 Ubb: 5,000,000,000 Last edited by Forte; 12-03-2007 at 10:09 PM. |
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The only thing I really disagree with is that Tien is too weak but thats just my opinion.
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ya he was at about 2,000 then
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Those powerlevels are 100% incoorect here are some of the 100% coorect power levels:
Saiyan Saga Raditz vs. Farmer Raditz: 1,200 Farmer: 5 Raditz vs. Goku & Piccolo Raditz: 1,200 Piccolo (with weighted clothes): 322 Piccolo (without weighted clothes): 408 Piccolo-Special Beam Cannon (1st try): 1,330 Piccolo-Special Beam Cannon (2nd try): 1,440 Goku (with weighted clothes): 334 Goku (without weighted clothes): 416 Goku-Kame Hame Ha: 924 Gohan:1 to 1,307 (power changes with emotions) After The Battle Master Roshi: 139 Turtle: 0.001 Krillin: 206 Tien: 250 Yamcha: 177 Piccolo: 329 Goku Vs Vegeta Goku: 5,000 Goku Powered up: 8,000 Goku Kaiokenx4: 32,000 Vegeta: 18,000 Oozaru Vegeta: 180,000 Goku Vs Frieza Goku: 300,000 Frieza (form 4 - 100%):12,000,000 Super Saiyan Goku: 15,000,000 Future Trunks Vs King Cold Trunks (suppressed):5 Super Saiyan Trunks: 25,000,000 King Cold: 20,000,000 Cyborg Frieza: 18,500,000 Perfect Cel Vs Gohan Super saiyan Gohan: 130,000,000 Super Saiyan 2 Gohan: 325,000,000 Cell: 180,000,000 Vegito Vs Mega Buu Vegito: 800,000,000 SS2 Vegito: 1,160,000,000 Mega Buu (with Trunks, Goten, Piccolo & Gohan): 750,000,000 Goku Vs Kid Buu Goku's ultimate Spirit bom: 1,550,000,000 Kid Buu: 1,500,000,000 SS Goku: 410,000,000 there are some of the power levels & they are 100% correct the powerlevels above are of some of the major battles like Goku Vs Vegeta, Goku Vs Frieza, Trunks Vs King Cold, Cell Vs Gohan, Vegito Vs Buu & Goku vs Kid Buu
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(19) Mastered Super Saiyan
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Watch this: YouTube - Frieza. Proof that he's over 100,000,000 Quote:
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Or you could read this.
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(25) Kami of Earth
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- ERROR-
Future Trunks(Post-2nd RoSaT): 250,000,000 - Super Saiyajin: 1,300,000,000 - Super Saiyajin Grade 2: 2,400,000,000 Piccol(Post-RoSaT): 1,400,000,000 - Weight off: 1,800,000,000 - ERROR- piccolo is not as strong as a super saiyan trunks |
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-Gotenks and Shin Buu were dead even but Gotenks was slightly but really slightly stronger, yet in your list he's 1,25x stronger. At 1,33x you can vaporize your opponent with no effort, if Gotenks was 1,25x stronger than Shin Buu, then the fight wouldn't have been so close. -Gohan being 1,6x stronger than Shin Buu is a little high a think, Vegeta who was 1,33x stronger than Kiwi destroyed him, yet we don't see Gohan putting that sort of dominating performance, sure Buu was almost running for his life, but with 1,6x more power than Buu, a hit from Gohan would have almost knock him out. In that scenario, Buu is Kiwi and Gohan is Vegeta, though I don't believe the difference to be as big. I would place Gohan about 1,3x stronger than Shin Buu, 1,4x maximum. -It was stated that Buu gained the strength of his opponent when he absorbs them. Buu absorbing Gotenks should be Shin Buu's power+Gotenks power, therefore is power should have been: 2,000,000,000,000+2,500,000,000= 4,500,000,000,000. Yet you have Shin Buu(Gotenks absorbed) weaker than Chou Gohan, the probleme is, he clearly demonstrated he was much much stronger than Chou Gohan. You have him about as strong as SSJ3 Gotenks when unaltered Shin Buu was about as strong as SSJ3 Gotenks. It doesn't make sense that, when he swallows him, he's just a tad bit stronger. Why is Vegeto's SSJ multiplier 5,33x and not just 5x? -I made rough calculations, I can assure you that, Chou Gohan is nowhere near being 9x stronger than SSJ3 Goku, he's more like 4-6x stronger. -Last but not least. Chibi Buu and SSJ3 Goku were dead even, they said that, only full power SSJ3 Goku could have taken him out. They should have the exact same power level, with Chibi Buu being slightly stronger in my opinion. SSJ3 Goku losing power is weaker then Chibi Buu since he absolutely needed full power to destroy him. Goku started the fight at full power, he said himself that he went all out from the begining, Chibi Buu still put up a solid performance against him, if the difference between their power was 2,33x then SSJ3 Goku's hits would have hurt Chibi Buu much more than Chou Gohan's hits hurt Shin Buu. Their difference in power can be that high since if it was, Goku would have dominated him from the begining to the end. These are the power levels that caught my attention. Good effort on your list.
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