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Old 11-29-2007   #1 (permalink)
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Default Is shouting "Ka-Me-Ha-Me-Ha" even necessary?

Is is necessary for fighters to shout out the names of their moves? Would the moves not work if they don't? For example, when Buu used the Kamehameha against SSJ3 Goku, he didn't say anything, and neither did any other forms of Buu...
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Default Re: Is shouting "Ka-Me-Ha-Me-Ha" even necessary?

They problably didn't know what it was called. I think they shout the names so that the reader/viewer knows the move that's being used.
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Default Re: Is shouting "Ka-Me-Ha-Me-Ha" even necessary?

Fat Buu most likely wouldn't know the name, but he probably did if Goku said it aloud. Shin Buu [Piccolo Prime; Gotenks Prime; Gohan Prime] would know the name of the Kamehameha Wave because he can search through Goten, Trunks, Piccolo, and Gohan's minds. He knows their past.

But to answer the question, no, the user doesn't have to say the name of the technique before it's thrown. For instance, Freeza shot his Death Beam right through Vegeta and he never took the time to say, "Death Beam!" Or what about when Cell came back from his regeneration process at King Kai's planet? The moment he came back was the very moment he shot a death beam through Trunks. I'm sure you could name all sorts of examples...
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They say it so you know they're going to use it.
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Default Re: Is shouting "Ka-Me-Ha-Me-Ha" even necessary?

I thought they just said it for dramatic effect. I mean, I really don't see the point of telling your opponent what your about to do. You'd think it'd make it easier to counter you or something.
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i personally think they said it just show it could become their trademark quote and you'd get endless amounts of little kids running round saying "Kamehameha" and the sorts
that's true lol. i know i was
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Default Re: Is shouting "Ka-Me-Ha-Me-Ha" even necessary?

its not neccessary because goku could use it without using the name
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Default Re: Is shouting "Ka-Me-Ha-Me-Ha" even necessary?

It's really is not necassary to say the name of any attack since they only reason they say them is so we can identify what they are, other then that one attack.
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I think its funny how goku says it all slow.
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Default Re: Is shouting "Ka-Me-Ha-Me-Ha" even necessary?

Well, no, not really. It's basically to tell the reader what move is being used. Even the pose for the "Kamehameha" doesn't need to be done, as proof of SSj2 Gohan when Cell shot a Kamehameha in Full Power at him trying to destroy the Earth as a last ditch effort, Gohan simply muttered Kame...Hame... then yelled HA! and shot the attack. Neither the pose nor the words need be spoken.
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I think that when they learn the attacks, they are told to say it out aloud. But as time goes by and they master the technique, they learn to perfect it and therefore: no need to say it out aloud! Simple, I say.
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That would make sense Adi. I think saying "Ka-Me-Ha-Me-Ha" just helps the user to focus ones energy. Besides reme,ber when Ero Master Roshi says it before he destorys the moon, and taking out the Red Ribbon Army (I think it was), he has to say it as he's human. Its all about focus.
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Default Re: Is shouting "Ka-Me-Ha-Me-Ha" even necessary?

I know several instances where the attack isn't shouted. A big part of this misconception, however, comes from the fact that the FUNi dub has has several "added in" lines of people shouting the attacks, when they didn't before. The Cell Game is -full- of this in particular.

The time Piccolo used the Makankosappo against Nappa, he didn't speak it (and people often miss it anyway). Goku didn't declare the Kamehameha he used against #19, and so on.

But it's not like Dragonball is intended to be like the real world or all that realistic. It's fanservice to have the characters shout the attacks, and it's always fun to hear it. "RAWK ON, SIGNATURE MOVE BABY!!!".

Death Beam was never given a name in the Anime or Manga, only the Video Games. That's why it was never shouted.
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I know several instances where the attack isn't shouted. A big part of this misconception, however, comes from the fact that the FUNi dub has has several "added in" lines of people shouting the attacks, when they didn't before. The Cell Game is -full- of this in particular.

The time Piccolo used the Makankosappo against Nappa, he didn't speak it (and people often miss it anyway). Goku didn't declare the Kamehameha he used against #19, and so on.

But it's not like Dragonball is intended to be like the real world or all that realistic. It's fanservice to have the characters shout the attacks, and it's always fun to hear it. "RAWK ON, SIGNATURE MOVE BABY!!!".

Death Beam was never given a name in the Anime or Manga, only the Video Games. That's why it was never shouted.
Yes thats too true Dou on both account. I think somethimes we have to think DBZ and most other things is not in any way supposed to represent the real world. So when trying to explain things on DBZ by our means we have to conclude with: "Oh well DBZ isn't real" but only sometimes at the end of the day its only just an anime. A good one, but just an anime.
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I know several instances where the attack isn't shouted. A big part of this misconception, however, comes from the fact that the FUNi dub has has several "added in" lines of people shouting the attacks, when they didn't before. The Cell Game is -full- of this in particular.

The time Piccolo used the Makankosappo against Nappa, he didn't speak it (and people often miss it anyway). Goku didn't declare the Kamehameha he used against #19, and so on.

But it's not like Dragonball is intended to be like the real world or all that realistic. It's fanservice to have the characters shout the attacks, and it's always fun to hear it. "RAWK ON, SIGNATURE MOVE BABY!!!".

Death Beam was never given a name in the Anime or Manga, only the Video Games. That's why it was never shouted.
This is also so very true. So pretty much they add it on inthe dubs to make it more exiting as an added on effect to the viewer?

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That would make sense Adi. I think saying "Ka-Me-Ha-Me-Ha" just helps the user to focus ones energy. Besides reme,ber when Ero Master Roshi says it before he destorys the moon, and taking out the Red Ribbon Army (I think it was), he has to say it as he's human. Its all about focus.
Ah yes, I do remember that. But yeah, I just think as a saiyan perfects the technique over time, they have more control, y'know? But yeah it is all about how focused the person is.
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