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Old 11-28-2007   #1 (permalink)
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after rereading the cui vegeta fight on the manga im kinda puzzle on whats cui's power level we all know that vegeta was 18000 at the saiyan arc but before cui fought vegeta dodoria said that cui could easily beat vegeta. how is that possible if they are "suppose to " have the same 18000 power level so i guessing its higher maybe 19000 . but being 19000 wont make you beat an 18000 easy probably if he;s above 20000 he could beat an 18000 easy but that would make him as strong as dodoria and zarbon but i dont think he is since vegeta wouldnt have been that much faster then him remember how zarbon could keep up with vegeta while chasing him before their second battle and he wasnt even transform so what you guys think about this issue


sorry i made a mistake could this be move to the normal dbz section
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I think that Dodoria was going on outdated information, as Kiwi states when he confronts Bejiita (before he demonstrates his ability to power up) that there was no difference in their power. Later when Bejiita actually starts powering up, Kiwi first states that Bejiita's power is as high as his, then he starts counting upwards at intervals of 1,000 until his scouter explodes, starting at 19,000. So that means that Kiwi's battle power is below 19,000.

As for the speed thing, an equality in battle power doesn't always constitute an equality in all aspects (speed, strength, endurance, etc). Baata, in comparison to Jiisu and Rikuumu of the Ginyu Tokusentai are prime examples of this, as they are stated to have equal battle powers, yet Baata is shown to be superior to both of them in terms of speed.
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I think Kiwi is above 18 000, but below 19 000.

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What you gus are saying it could be 18,500 just a guess
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When Cui first arives on Namek, he tells Vegeta that his supressed power is well below his. Since Cui was aware of Vegeta's battle power prior to his zenkai, anwhere above 18,500+ seems like a reasonable estimate.
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I think that Dodoria was going on outdated information, as Kiwi states when he confronts Bejiita (before he demonstrates his ability to power up) that there was no difference in their power. Later when Bejiita actually starts powering up, Kiwi first states that Bejiita's power is as high as his, then he starts counting upwards at intervals of 1,000 until his scouter explodes, starting at 19,000. So that means that Kiwi's battle power is below 19,000.
I'm going to have to say I'm at a disagreement with you, Darkprince410. Kiwi's remark about Vegeta's battle strength at that time, before Vegeta uncorks his actual battle strength, was not that Vegeta was equal to himself but that Kiwi was actually a good deal stronger than Vegeta, as Vegeta was suppressing his ki. Then, while Vegeta was releasing his ki mockingly in front of Kiwi, that was when, as you said, Kiwi stated Vegeta's ki equal to his own, and of course he went above and beyond that.

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Default Re: Was Cui really 18000?

yep he was he still thought that he was strong than vegeta but he didn't know that Vegeta had just learned how to hide his full power
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When Cui first arives on Namek, he tells Vegeta that his supressed power is well below his. Since Cui was aware of Vegeta's battle power prior to his zenkai, anwhere above 18,500+ seems like a reasonable estimate.
Vegeta's powerlevel when he arrived on Namek was 24,000
Cui's power level is 18,000
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No, Vegeta's power when he arrived on Namek was suppressed to his maximum abilities prior to his zenkai (around 18,000) when he first arrived on Namek. Cui told Vegeta that his battle strength was well below his own, which in all likeliness suggests that Cui is 18,500+.
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you could be right
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