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Old 11-01-2007   #16 (permalink)
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i would place him at freeza's third form(they even look alike)
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I agree there is no way a sayian can have a base of 50 million its just too much, now 40 million is more like it.

At SSJ though thats atleast 60 million, for Goku and Vegeta and maybe about 55 million for Gohan.
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I'd say no more than 20,000. But after becoming a majin, his power level could possibly go up a couple times. So maybe 25,000-75,000.
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Using a 50x SSJ multiplier, you'd be saying they only get about 500-600 million as SSJ. That's definitely not right.
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Using a 50x SSJ multiplier, you'd be saying they only get about 500-600 million as SSJ. That's definitely not right.


What's wrong with the Super Saiyan powers in the 500-600 milliom levels? Surely, it would get higher with the USSJ and with the FPSSJ power-ups. But, I think the multiplier decreases as they advance into more powerful forms.
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In my lists, Vegeta has 27 000 000 in Boo saga.


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If Vegeta [Buu arc, Base] was at 200,000,000...by multiplying his PL by 50, his SSj state would come out to 10,000,000,000--around MSSj Gohan's level of power during the Buu Arc. So, this means he's got to be stronger than 200,000,000. And since you only need to be 1.33x your opponent for ultimate dominance, Pocus could very possibly be much stronger than where you guys place him. You know what I'm saying?
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Pui Pui - 20,000
Base Vegeta - 1,180,000,000
MSSJ Vegeta - 5,900,000,000

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Pui Pui - 20,000

Base Vegeta - 1,180,000,000

MSSJ Vegeta - 5,900,000,000

id place Vegeta, a bit stronger then that maybe

3 million for base

4 mill for powered up base

6 million for SSJ

10 million for SSJ2

and 11 million for Majin SSJ2

then SSJ3 at 16 million
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Pui Pui - 20,000

Base Vegeta - 1,180,000,000

MSSJ Vegeta - 5,900,000,000

id place Vegeta, a bit stronger then that maybe

3 million for base

4 mill for powered up base

6 million for SSJ

10 million for SSJ2

and 11 million for Majin SSJ2

then SSJ3 at 16 million
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Pui Pui - 20,000

Base Vegeta - 1,180,000,000

MSSJ Vegeta - 5,900,000,000

id place Vegeta, a bit stronger then that maybe

3 million for base

4 mill for powered up base

6 million for SSJ

10 million for SSJ2

and 11 million for Majin SSJ2

then SSJ3 at 16 million
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In my lists, Vegeta has 27 000 000 in Boo saga.


ya that seems about right id place him at 20 million myself.

but the 50x SSJ multiply would make him way too strong.

so maybe about 30 million for SSJ 40million SSJ2 and 50 million for SSJ3
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Pui Pui - 20,000

Base Vegeta - 1,180,000,000

MSSJ Vegeta - 5,900,000,000

What?! Dude, I don't think Vegeta's base was in the billions.

knock off a zero and move the comma over a 2 places:

118,000,000

590,000,000

And to make a point, I honestly don't believe that Saiyans get much stronger in their bases beyond the time that they initially become a Super Saiyan. Vegeta even states in the manga that he'd reached his limit in his base, which is why he transformed into a Super Saiyan; that's the whole purpose of transformation, to physically alter your body in order to gain access to a larger ki, becuase your regular body is unable to. (Or in Freeza's original case, limit his ki). But also another discussion for another time would be what are the requirements for transformation?

Vegeta, Volume 29, pg 89:

"I endured a training from Hell. Then I ran into a wall, my own limits. In the rage I felt toward myself, I awoke into a Super Saiyan."
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What?! Dude, I don't think Vegeta's base was in the billions.

knock off a zero and move the comma over a 2 places:

118,000,000

590,000,000
Nah, it's fine as it is.
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Pui Pui - 20,000

Base Vegeta - 1,180,000,000

MSSJ Vegeta - 5,900,000,000

id place Vegeta, a bit stronger then that maybe

3 million for base

4 mill for powered up base

6 million for SSJ

10 million for SSJ2

and 11 million for Majin SSJ2

then SSJ3 at 16 million
Um....
1,000,000 = million
1,000,000,000 = billion
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Pui Pui's powerlevel is 10,000,000 exact Vegeta's powerlevel was 360,000,000

Vegeta was just toying with him probitly trying to see if Pui Pui was hiding his true power (Which he wasn't) Vegeta was just suppressing his powerlevel eventually he got sick and tired of Pui Pui and killed him
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