Super Buuhan....overrated?

10-28-2007

I think you are overrating super buuhan a little too much. Super buu alone is strong, ultimate gohan alone is very strong. and yes I know when buu absorbed gohan became very strong but still kid buu is the most powerful form of buu. period.
Im so sure Elder Kai said something when buu transformed to kid buu. He said something like: Buu returned to his original and most powerful form.
Also kid buu was the last DBZ villian , so the last, the strongest.

**Darkprince410** · 10-28-2007

Sorry, but you're incorrect. Each form of Shin Buu (Super Buu) is vastly stronger than Chibi Buu (Kid Buu), and there is plenty of evidence to support that this is the case.

1) When Gokuu and Bejiita have removed all but Mr. Buu's cocoon from within Shin Buu, Gokuu makes the comment that even though Buu is a lot weaker, they're still no match for him, and if they left his body when he's at that strength, he'd kill them. This means that Ssj3 Gokuu and Ssj2 Bejiita (Gokuu wouldn't have made such a comment unless he was factoring in their strongest forms) would be killed in a fight with Shin Buu.

However, when Gokuu faces off against Chibi Buu, it is suggested initially and stated later that if Gokuu went to full power Ssj3 against Chibi Buu, that he'd destroy him easily. Thus if Gokuu could easily destroy Chibi Buu but knows he'd be killed by Shin Buu, Shin Buu is obviously stronger.

2) Your quoted line is incorrect, as you are basing it off of a bad dubbed line. In the manga (the official source of information regarding DBZ), at no point is Chibi Buu mentioned to be the most powerful form of Buu. All that is said is that he's the original and pure evil, with no remorse towards anything.

3) Toriyama-sensei intentionally created a villain of Chibi Buu's strength so that Gokuu could face him in a one-on-one match, without any special fusions or anything of the sort. It broke what would normally be considered the rule for a villain's form, but that's how Toriyama-sensei wrote it to be.

4) Chibi Buu is actually no stronger than the Aku Buu (Evil Buu) that the Fat Buu expelled from his body after Mr. Satan was shot. They are both the pure evil forms of Buu, and going by a formula derived from information directly from the manga, I can prove this.

Aku Buu + Mr. Buu = Shin Buu - Mr. Buu = Chibi Buu

5) It was stated in the manga and confirmed in an interview that Ssj Gotenkusu (before entering the Room of Spirit and Time) was stronger than Ssj3 Gokuu, who as I said above was stronger than Chibi Buu. Then consider that Ssj3 Gotenkusu (who is now obviously far stronger than Ssj3 Gokuu and even moreso than Chibi Buu) is only marginally stronger than Shin Buu, and you can see that there's no way that Chibi Buu could be stronger.

Final Ultima · 10-29-2007

I am sorry how can Super Buu 3 (Super Mystic Buu) be overrated? The guy was powerful enough to detroy the UNIVERSE!!

gad_is_here · 10-29-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darkprince410

Sorry, but you're incorrect. Each form of Shin Buu (Super Buu) is vastly stronger than Chibi Buu (Kid Buu), and there is plenty of evidence to support that this is the case.

1) When Gokuu and Bejiita have removed all but Mr. Buu's cocoon from within Shin Buu, Gokuu makes the comment that even though Buu is a lot weaker, they're still no match for him, and if they left his body when he's at that strength, he'd kill them. This means that Ssj3 Gokuu and Ssj2 Bejiita (Gokuu wouldn't have made such a comment unless he was factoring in their strongest forms) would be killed in a fight with Shin Buu.

However, when Gokuu faces off against Chibi Buu, it is suggested initially and stated later that if Gokuu went to full power Ssj3 against Chibi Buu, that he'd destroy him easily. Thus if Gokuu could easily destroy Chibi Buu but knows he'd be killed by Shin Buu, Shin Buu is obviously stronger.

2) Your quoted line is incorrect, as you are basing it off of a bad dubbed line. In the manga (the official source of information regarding DBZ), at no point is Chibi Buu mentioned to be the most powerful form of Buu. All that is said is that he's the original and pure evil, with no remorse towards anything.

3) Toriyama-sensei intentionally created a villain of Chibi Buu's strength so that Gokuu could face him in a one-on-one match, without any special fusions or anything of the sort. It broke what would normally be considered the rule for a villain's form, but that's how Toriyama-sensei wrote it to be.

4) Chibi Buu is actually no stronger than the Aku Buu (Evil Buu) that the Fat Buu expelled from his body after Mr. Satan was shot. They are both the pure evil forms of Buu, and going by a formula derived from information directly from the manga, I can prove this.

Aku Buu + Mr. Buu = Shin Buu - Mr. Buu = Chibi Buu

5) It was stated in the manga and confirmed in an interview that Ssj Gotenkusu (before entering the Room of Spirit and Time) was stronger than Ssj3 Gokuu, who as I said above was stronger than Chibi Buu. Then consider that Ssj3 Gotenkusu (who is now obviously far stronger than Ssj3 Gokuu and even moreso than Chibi Buu) is only marginally stronger than Shin Buu, and you can see that there's no way that Chibi Buu could be stronger.

No mistakes there

Devilz · 10-29-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by Final Ultima

I am sorry how can Super Buu 3 (Super Mystic Buu) be overrated? The guy was powerful enough to detroy the UNIVERSE!!

He could kill everything and destroy planets, but destroy the universe, I doubt.

Broly · 10-29-2007

Heh, no one can destroy the Universe. It's just too big...and seemingly endless.

Final Ultima · 10-29-2007

In Original Japanese Anime Dragonball Z episode 270. "The Dimension is Shattered! Is Buu Out of Control?!" Buu was shown destroying the universe.

Hey this is Dragonball you know, anything can happen.

Broly · 10-29-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by Final Ultima

In Original Japanese Anime Dragonball Z episode 270. "The Dimension is Shattered! Is Buu Out of Control?!" Buu was shown destroying the universe.

Hey this is Dragonball you know, anything can happen.

Buu is unable to destroy the Universe in one shot. Besides that, the Universe is shown to have no end.

LegendaryBroli · 10-29-2007

buuhan is way stronger than kid buu. If chibi buu was stronger no way goku would want to fight buu on his own or atleast thought he could defeat him

10-29-2007

hmmm, ok you guys convinced me. I get the point now but I can barely believe that kid buu is weaker than black buu (pure evil). If he was weaker than black buu then i dont think goku would have so much trouble. Anyway.
and about what elder kai said, i think it has been a dub error because ive only seen the italian version.

Broly · 10-29-2007

Kid Buu is about equal to Evil Buu.

Final Ultima · 10-29-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by Broly

Buu is unable to destroy the Universe in one shot. Besides that, the Universe is shown to have no end.

Uhh...Buu was shown ripping holes in time and space...If Vegetto didn't stop him the universe would have been destroyed. It is stated and shown.

Broly · 10-29-2007

That is all filler content. In meaning, it didn't happen, not in the confines of Toriyama's canonical work from the manga.

Haxafax · 10-30-2007

Lol, Chibi Buu's so weak, even Fat Buu was stronger than him when Chibi Buu was inside him.

Broly · 10-30-2007

Yeah, it's funny when you think about it, actually. Chibi Buu, next to Mr. Buu is the weakest of all the Buus, yet he was the final villain.

Buu's in order from strongest to weakest:

Shin Buuhan

Shin Buutenks

Buff Buu

Shin Buucollo

Shin Buu

Fat Buu

Evil Buu

Chibi Buu = XD He's that weak

Mr. Buu

10-28-2007	#1 (permalink)
Ultimate_Gohan Guest Posts: n/a	Super Buuhan....overrated? I think you are overrating super buuhan a little too much. Super buu alone is strong, ultimate gohan alone is very strong. and yes I know when buu absorbed gohan became very strong but still kid buu is the most powerful form of buu. period. Im so sure Elder Kai said something when buu transformed to kid buu. He said something like: Buu returned to his original and most powerful form. Also kid buu was the last DBZ villian , so the last, the strongest.

10-28-2007	#2 (permalink)
Darkprince410 Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ohio, United States Posts: 2,998 Rep Power: 52	Re: Super Buuhan....overrated? Sorry, but you're incorrect. Each form of Shin Buu (Super Buu) is vastly stronger than Chibi Buu (Kid Buu), and there is plenty of evidence to support that this is the case. 1) When Gokuu and Bejiita have removed all but Mr. Buu's cocoon from within Shin Buu, Gokuu makes the comment that even though Buu is a lot weaker, they're still no match for him, and if they left his body when he's at that strength, he'd kill them. This means that Ssj3 Gokuu and Ssj2 Bejiita (Gokuu wouldn't have made such a comment unless he was factoring in their strongest forms) would be killed in a fight with Shin Buu. However, when Gokuu faces off against Chibi Buu, it is suggested initially and stated later that if Gokuu went to full power Ssj3 against Chibi Buu, that he'd destroy him easily. Thus if Gokuu could easily destroy Chibi Buu but knows he'd be killed by Shin Buu, Shin Buu is obviously stronger. 2) Your quoted line is incorrect, as you are basing it off of a bad dubbed line. In the manga (the official source of information regarding DBZ), at no point is Chibi Buu mentioned to be the most powerful form of Buu. All that is said is that he's the original and pure evil, with no remorse towards anything. 3) Toriyama-sensei intentionally created a villain of Chibi Buu's strength so that Gokuu could face him in a one-on-one match, without any special fusions or anything of the sort. It broke what would normally be considered the rule for a villain's form, but that's how Toriyama-sensei wrote it to be. 4) Chibi Buu is actually no stronger than the Aku Buu (Evil Buu) that the Fat Buu expelled from his body after Mr. Satan was shot. They are both the pure evil forms of Buu, and going by a formula derived from information directly from the manga, I can prove this. Aku Buu + Mr. Buu = Shin Buu - Mr. Buu = Chibi Buu 5) It was stated in the manga and confirmed in an interview that Ssj Gotenkusu (before entering the Room of Spirit and Time) was stronger than Ssj3 Gokuu, who as I said above was stronger than Chibi Buu. Then consider that Ssj3 Gotenkusu (who is now obviously far stronger than Ssj3 Gokuu and even moreso than Chibi Buu) is only marginally stronger than Shin Buu, and you can see that there's no way that Chibi Buu could be stronger. __________________

10-29-2007	#3 (permalink)
Final Ultima (19) Mastered Super Saiyan Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 1,080 Rep Power: 0	Re: Super Buuhan....overrated? I am sorry how can Super Buu 3 (Super Mystic Buu) be overrated? The guy was powerful enough to detroy the UNIVERSE!! __________________ AKIRA TORIYAMA:"DRAGONBALL, IT'S THE ANIME AND THE MANGA!" *THE TRUTH GETS NEGGED, BRING ON THE RED!!*

10-29-2007	#6 (permalink)
Broly The Desolate One Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: You think I give a shit about where you think I stay? Posts: 7,543 Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 33	Re: Super Buuhan....overrated? Heh, no one can destroy the Universe. It's just too big...and seemingly endless. __________________ $C:\Users\Silver Platter\Pictures\Broly_SSJ5_by_Gothax.jpg$

10-29-2007	#7 (permalink)
Final Ultima (19) Mastered Super Saiyan Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 1,080 Rep Power: 0	Re: Super Buuhan....overrated? In Original Japanese Anime Dragonball Z episode 270. "The Dimension is Shattered! Is Buu Out of Control?!" Buu was shown destroying the universe. Hey this is Dragonball you know, anything can happen. __________________ AKIRA TORIYAMA:"DRAGONBALL, IT'S THE ANIME AND THE MANGA!" *THE TRUTH GETS NEGGED, BRING ON THE RED!!*

10-29-2007	#9 (permalink)
LegendaryBroli (24) Super Saiyan 4 Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Maryland, US Posts: 3,270 Blog Entries: 3 Rep Power: 20	Re: Super Buuhan....overrated? buuhan is way stronger than kid buu. If chibi buu was stronger no way goku would want to fight buu on his own or atleast thought he could defeat him __________________ row row fight da power!

10-29-2007	#10 (permalink)
Ultimate_Gohan Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Super Buuhan....overrated? hmmm, ok you guys convinced me. I get the point now but I can barely believe that kid buu is weaker than black buu (pure evil). If he was weaker than black buu then i dont think goku would have so much trouble. Anyway. and about what elder kai said, i think it has been a dub error because ive only seen the italian version.

10-29-2007	#11 (permalink)
Broly The Desolate One Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: You think I give a shit about where you think I stay? Posts: 7,543 Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 33	Re: Super Buuhan....overrated? Kid Buu is about equal to Evil Buu. __________________ $C:\Users\Silver Platter\Pictures\Broly_SSJ5_by_Gothax.jpg$

10-29-2007	#13 (permalink)
Broly The Desolate One Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: You think I give a shit about where you think I stay? Posts: 7,543 Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 33	Re: Super Buuhan....overrated? That is all filler content. In meaning, it didn't happen, not in the confines of Toriyama's canonical work from the manga. __________________ $C:\Users\Silver Platter\Pictures\Broly_SSJ5_by_Gothax.jpg$

10-30-2007	#14 (permalink)
Haxafax (6) Disciple of Kami Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 45 Rep Power: 0	Re: Super Buuhan....overrated? Lol, Chibi Buu's so weak, even Fat Buu was stronger than him when Chibi Buu was inside him.

10-30-2007	#15 (permalink)
Broly The Desolate One Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: You think I give a shit about where you think I stay? Posts: 7,543 Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 33	Re: Super Buuhan....overrated? Yeah, it's funny when you think about it, actually. Chibi Buu, next to Mr. Buu is the weakest of all the Buus, yet he was the final villain. Buu's in order from strongest to weakest: Shin Buuhan Shin Buutenks Buff Buu Shin Buucollo Shin Buu Fat Buu Evil Buu Chibi Buu = XD He's that weak Mr. Buu __________________ $C:\Users\Silver Platter\Pictures\Broly_SSJ5_by_Gothax.jpg$