Shaka of virgo

Also if we talk about what they are saying literally Goku said that Buu´s ki was getting biger when he transform from super buu to kid Buu.

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Final Ultima

Nothing is legit on the internet unless you post the actual scans of the interview, Lets not forget that Buu's ki was increasing as he transformed into Kid Buu.

Yes, Toriyama simply said that the ANIME IS Dragonball, which is canon.

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Majuub

Shaka of Virgo, when they said Shin Buu's Ki was getting bigger, they were refering to ''Buff Buu'' the appearance Chibi Buu took when he absorbed the South Kaioshin. When Kibitoshin was talking to the elder Kai about the time Chibi Buu was terrorizing them, he said that the Kaioshin of the west and the north were killed, he later said that the South Kaioshin, who was the bravest and strongest was absorbed, then the elder Kaioshin said: Then he became the hulking Buu we saw earlier. Kibitoshin approves. Shortly after, he becomes Chibi Buu and Goku said that they could take him now, but Goku also stated earlier that they wouldn't be able to beat Shin Buu without fusing. Shin Buu's Ki got bigger, then it got smaller and Chibi Buu appeared.
Goku said that someone stronger than him would come and face Buu, he was refering to SSJ Gotenks whom he thought would be strong enough to beat Fat Buu. Goku had to go SSJ3 to show his power to Fat Buu, if Goku was just a little weaker than SSJ3 Gotenks, he wouldn't even have to go SSJ3 to own Fat Buu, a punch from a being as powerful as SSJ3 Gotenks would hurt Fat Buu a lot, but Goku's hit didn't seem to hurt him much, since he didn't get angry and was actually enjoying the fight. We can assume that SSJ3 Goku is about even to SSJ Gotenks before his training in the ROSAT(Room of spirit and time). After Gotenks trained in the ROSAT, Piccolo was impressed by the amount of power he was displaying, we can assume that he got a lot stronger, if SSJ3 Goku and SSJ Gotenks pre ROSAT are about even, then a SSJ Gotenks post ROSAT is a good deal stronger than SSJ3 Goku.
Final Ultima, the source is the Otaku magazine, I'll ask my source if the interview is indeed true. Do you speak French, because I do, if I talk to you in French it will be easier for me to express what I have in mind.

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Shaka of virgo

The anime is 90% the manga, the fillers that are part of the manga can be considering canon like Krillin atacking Cell, but things like Garlic Saga, or the tournament in heaven is not canon, the battles with their fillers could be canon, but Freeza watching Goku and Buu fighting is non canon.

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Devilz

If it's not in the manga, it's not canon. Simple as that.

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Final Ultima

No, that is not What Toriyama said. Now you are free to your own theory but please leave it at that.

@MajinBuu: Hey if you don't have the actual scan of the interview from the magazine you don't have to worry about it.

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Shaka of virgo

Goku was not serious with Fat Buu, he said that a stronger warrior will come to stop them for killing people, it didn´t work, when piccolo ask him if he could have beat the fat Buu he smile and explain piccolo that he don´t exist anymore, he repeat this with Vegeta, Ok lets say that SSJ 3 Gotenks is stronger than SSJ3 Goku, but not SSJ1 Gotenks, even so, If Goku don´t miscalculated that his dead body run out, he could beat the Kid Buu without the Genkidama.

About The Ki of Buu Getting stronger, that Kaios talk about it and they told that absorbing others tammed Buu power, and Buu was all the time returning from being disintegrate it by Goku and Vegeta, Buu power is his regeneration and his stamina.

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Majuub

If SSJ3 Goku was much stronger than SSJ Gotenks, Fat Buu wouldn't have been able to hold his kamehameha that easily, it would hurt him a lot, and if Fat Buu gets hurt he'll become angry and he didn't, he was having fun actually. Goku wasn't serious indeed, but he was serious enough to hurt Fat Buu enough to make him angry and he didn't, even as an SSJ3, SSJ Gotenks was stated to be stronger than Fat Buu before Gotenks, after he trained he became much stronger. SSJ3 Goku wasn't far stronger than Fat Buu, he was about even maybe a little stronger, SSJ Gotenks pre ROSAT was a little stronger according to Goku.
They just said after he Buff Buu absorbed the Dai Kaioshin: He lost the power he had obtained by absorption. Only that absorption actually made him much weaker they weren't refering to the whole concept of absorption. It still stands, Goku said that him and Vegeta would get killed if they were to fight Shin Buu, but Goku was confident he could beat Chibi Buu, he was even happy when he saw Chibi Buu because he was actually weaker.

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Super Cool

Just because it's in the anime doesnt' mean it's noncanon. Some fillers are noncanon but not the whole anime.

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Broly

Toriyama was not wrong in saying the anime was canon, but when held up to the manga [Toriyama's original work], it's not as reliable because many words and phrases are changed to fit the story due to the filler scenes. Again, I am in no way disregarding Toriyama's statement.

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Final Ultima

Again, the anime (including what YOU call "filler") IS Dragonball, It is all canon.

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Darkprince410

He also said this to Pikkoro after he returned to the lookout. so while your initial idea behind it might make some sense, there's no reason he'd also say it to Pikkoro unless it was the truth.

Furthermore, that interview is not a fake, so despite what you believe, Toriyama-sensei himself said that Ssj Gotenkusu (Pre-RoSaT) is stronger than Ssj3 Gokuu. Likewise you're not getting the meaning of that line Final Ultima. He is not saying that he considers the anime canon, he is simply saying that he acknowledges the anime's existence and that he commends how Toei did it, and that Dragonball can be found in both forms, anime and manga.

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Nikushimi

Um, no.

When I was a newbie, I used to think that too. But after I saw what a fuck-awful mess GT turned out to be, I realized how wrong I was.

"Canon" is only in the manga. It is the frame-for-frame, word-for-word depiction of the events as created by the manga-ka, in this case, Akira Toriyama. The anime contains canon, but some of it was also fabricated for entertainment purposes, thus making it "filler". It is not all canon.

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Final Ultima

Again, post the scans of the ACTUAL magazine interview with Toriyama?.

Again, Toriyama did not say that, that is what YOU are saying. It's a simple line really.



@Nikushimi: That is not what Toriyama said, read the interview.

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Darkprince410

I don't have the actual scans of said interview, but I wouldn't be quoting information from it if I didn't know for certain of its existence, and if it were a simple line, then there'd be no argument about this, but because there are multiple ways of interpreting that line (only one of which involves considering the anime canon)

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