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Old 10-23-2007   #16 (permalink)
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I think by that time, he did. I mean, he had three years plus Kaio-Sama's training. I'm sure he could reach at least 30,000 by then.
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thats weird, really Tein should be WAY stronger than Cooler's stupid robots. I really like the new powerlevel list as its a lot more aucurate than MGF site but this is just opinion who knows.

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Robots- 500,000
Vs
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Tien- 450,000
even without his Kikoh he would smash Coolers stupid robots to peices. By that time Tein would have been able to take out a
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Fight Against frieza (2nd Form)
Frieza- 1,040,000
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LSSJ Broly- 6,500,000,000
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Kid Buu- 350,000,000,000
dunno about that one though
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Movie 8 would have been much shorter if LSSJ broly was stronger than MSSJ Gohan lol......
Then I guess in Movie 8, Gohan wasn't MSSJ yet.
Yep..............That's the right answer
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LSSj Broly is shown to be greater than MSSj Gohan [Movie 10]. He should be higher.


Movie 8 would have been much shorter if LSSJ broly was stronger than MSSJ Gohan lol......



And Goku never states that he's as strong as perfect Cell, so I have no idea where you got that from.....
1. What makes you think Broly wasn't stronger than MSSj Gohan?

2. Yes he does. It's stated in the manga, volume 22.
Cause Gohan wasn't MSSJ in that movie..................
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A few facts: He is a SSj, so he's been through the RoSaT. His hair is cut. Plus, Movie 8 was released after Goku and Gohan came out of the RoSaT in the anime, right on/before the episode Goku fought Complete Cell.
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There are a bunch of reasons why they weren't MSSJ in that movie, I stated them in a different thread,"Majin vegeta vs Broly"
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Yeah? So why don't you reply?
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Plus, Movie 8 was released after Goku and Gohan came out of the RoSaT in the anime,
While I agree that Gohan is a Mastered Super Saiya-jin when the movie was produced/finished according to the manga/anime would have more relevance then when it was released during the anime.
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It could very well be they were making the movie for post-RoSaT because of the already stated facts. Plus, if you look at Gohans' size from Post-RoSaT and compare him in the manga to the "Mid-RoSaT" SSj Gohan and you'll see he's a bit older and taller.
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None of that matters..... Nobody is denying that he isn't 11 years old in the movie...... He just isn't MSSJ
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hmmm i find it hard to believe that future gohan was only 180 millions at SSJ and still manages to hold his own against both 18 (400,000,000) and 17(500,000,000) i think gohan should be much stronger then any of the two androids specially during his last battle in the movie
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A few facts: He is a SSj, so he's been through the RoSaT.
*points at Future Gohan*

What about him? Gohan does NOT have to have been through the Time Chamber to be a Super Saiyan, in a non-canon timeline.
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I decided to go by the manga in this case though, and it's a lot different in the manga....

Android 17 basically telss Gohan he used less than half of his power in their last fight, and in the manga, there is no double team, just a look of horror on Gohan's face before the fight starts....
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It's a good listing as an overall... I don't have much to say on it, other than feeling some of the gaps to be offset and precarious, such as Goku and Nappa at full power being a bit too wide. If you notice, it's similar to the discrepancy between Zarbon and Vegeta when Goku's attitude that the fight with Nappa was reaching a less predictable gait denoted a bit divergently, so I think the gap was a bit closer than that, even though his quick fired Kamehameha managed to deal out Nappa's best blast instantly. Still, the attitude wasn't the same.


Trunks also was beat down quite a bit by the Mirai Cyborgs and recovered between the time of his defeat and when he arrived to do away with Mecha Freeza and Cold and inform Goku and the rest of the Zet Senshi of the portended Cyborgs, so there should be a difference of auto-evolution in power levels to reflect that. I don't think there was quite that gap between either #16 and Incomplete Cell or Super Vegeta and Complete Cell in the most suppressed state we see him in (considering #16 was not completely destroyed and Super Vegeta managed to completely disintegrate through Cell's body with the Final Flash, though it could be that Namekian cells are inherently easy to pierce). I feel the gap between SS Goku and Cooler ("5th Form") was a bit wider than that (the same goes for the gap between SS2 Gohan and Buff "Full Power" Complete Cell), but that's just me.

Just exiguous things, to be assiduous - overall it's a good list and properly displays the canon events as such.
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A few facts: He is a SSj, so he's been through the RoSaT.
*points at Future Gohan*

What about him? Gohan does NOT have to have been through the Time Chamber to be a Super Saiyan, in a non-canon timeline.
I'm speaking of the portrayed present timeline in the movie.
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