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Old 10-28-2007   #76 (permalink)
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Goku trained alone throughout Dragonball, and he made LARGER gains than all the rest of the fighters.

Explain that.
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Tien and Chiatzu aren't human. They were creations by Taopaipai, that's why they never age. They're basically clay beings.
And just where did you get this?

No, it wasn't in the manga. It also wasn't in the anime. So, where?
Yes...

It was in the anime...Shit Tao doesn't say this, the Crane Master says it, he states this in thought while Tienshenhan fights Chun-Sama. Or around there. He definitely said this.
WTF tHAT can't be true no wayyy.... Tein don't age because his a monk, just like Choazu, when they start to reach 80 then they will age just like Master Roshi i mean his 138 something if not older.


I'm so sure Tein is HUMAN, if he is clay why did he die naturally like everybody else, or whay didn't he put himself back together, why did he die full stop?

If he was human he would have bled a lot more when Nappa tore off his arm, and did you notice his blood was a weird color? And I know it's awkward mentioning this in a DBZ topic, but would a human have three eyes? Would a human have skin like make-up? And master roshi was 863 in the middle of Dragonball, and he did age at the end of DBZ.

And sorry about the shitty grammar on my previous post, I was uh...tired?

According to the Daizenshuu, in technicality Tenshinhan is part alien, as its mentioned that he was a descendant of a tribe of three-eyed aliens that settled on Earth ages ago. So despite there being no mention of his origins in the manga or anime, if we go by the Daizenshuu we find out that he's a descendant of extra-terrestrials, and to an extent excludes him from this discussion all together.
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Ya, well daiz also says the wrong things even when it's proven in the manga, so it's not exactly the most reliable source.
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Goku trained alone throughout Dragonball, and he made LARGER gains than all the rest of the fighters.

Explain that.
1.Zenkai played a part

2.Goku was stronger than most of his friends to begin with

3.The other fighters trained alone most of the time too (Excet Krillin and Yamcha for the 22nd tourn, but they were already so far behind Goku it didn't matter.)

4.His training methods were always better than everyone elses: For the 23rd tournament, Goku trained with Kami, compared to the others training with Korin, who Goku had trained with way before.....
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It's not a case of being stronger than the others. It's a case of him widening the gap, every time. That means he was gaining more, every time.

The entirety of the leadup to the 22nd Tournament was Goku vanishing to train on his own. When he resurfaced, everyone was amazed at how much he had gained since Baba's fights.

The only time Goku had a "partner" was during the original training with Roshi, and when training for the Androids. Yet, his gains are always leaps and bounds beyond everyone else.
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Goku trained alone throughout Dragonball, and he made LARGER gains than all the rest of the fighters.

Explain that.
I'll explain it if you can explain how something 2000% stronger than
something else doesn't immediately kill it on impact (Cell Jr. and
Krillen by your standards).
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The Cell Juniors didn't get ordered to kill the Z-Fighters until after Krillin was already toast. By the time Cell gave them the order, they were on Goku, Trunks, and Vegeta.

And then Gohan transformed, and the Juniors didn't have time to do anything but get whipped after that.
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That doesn't necessarily answer my question, you self hating human.
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That doesn't necessarily answer my question, you self hating human.
Sure it does. If they aren't supposed to kill them yet, they won't hit them hard enough to kill them.
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That doesn't necessarily answer my question, you self hating human.
Sure it does. If they aren't supposed to kill them yet, they won't hit them hard enough to kill them.
ROFL.

Remeber when Goku argued with Chi-Chi about preparing for the androids...? He called her "crazy" and love-tapped her, but she went crashing through a wall and careening into the ground. He wasn't even trying and it was a mistake. Goku is a master of chi-control, yet even he has trouble controlling himself against someone 1,000,000 times weaker than him.

Then there is Nappa vs. Tenshinhan. The difference wasn't even three, Nappa tore his arm off. Nappa vs. Piccolo, he is holding back to ask about the Dragonballs, remeber...? Piccolo's head swells up after a single, suppressed elbow-drop. He collapses for several chapters. Vegeta vs. Goku, he is just playing around and can 't kick Goku without making him wheeze. Vegeta vs. Jheese...the list goes on-and-on.

How would someone over a thousand times stronger than someone else be able to control themselves...? The only time we see this is Chibi Evil Boo vs. Hercule. That was a magical distortion in Boo's body, he couldn't hit Hercule. Or Cell, that was PURE comedy.
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Don't use Trunks as evidence, his cells were not absorbed by Cell, so we have no evidence to support they could suppress their ki that much.
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Yes some humans did pass a powerlevel of 1 million

Krillin's powerlevel in Buu Saga was: 360,000,000
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Unfortunately you are incorrect.

1) Battle powers are not recorded past the suppressed reading of 5 for Mirai Torunkusu, so that number is automatically illegitimate

2) If Kuririn, or any other true human (as Uub does not count) exhibited any signs of having a battle power that large, then this topic would not even need to be debated. None of the humans in Z show anything to suggest that they have power levels in the millions, let alone the hundreds of millions.
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Super Buu was born on earth making him human, no debate that his power level didn't surpass 1 million. LMAO only messing with yas

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If he was human he would have bled a lot more when Nappa tore off his arm, and did you notice his blood was a weird color? And I know it's awkward mentioning this in a DBZ topic, but would a human have three eyes? Would a human have skin like make-up? And master roshi was 863 in the middle of Dragonball, and he did age at the end of DBZ.
WTH Coutzu an albino, probably there not clay warriors, thats stupid, i mean if they are how can Tein exctute the "Kikkoh" as it powers of life force energy, made made things do not have a life force...i don;t believe Tein is a clay man
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According to the Daizenshuu, in technicality Tenshinhan is part alien, as its mentioned that he was a descendant of a tribe of three-eyed aliens
Tein's HUMAN as his 3rd eye represents how spritiuarly awakened he is
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