Anyone else dissapointed future trunks didnt return?

Mclovin20 · 10-08-2007

Hey, as the subject title says ^^ anyone else besides me feels a little sad or angry/disappointed that Mirai Trunks didn't return as promised at then end of season 3? i mean we got to see him in Bojack unbound, which was nice, but thats not canon, so I'm wondering besides the possibility he returned in the 7 years before season 4, why he didnt make any appearances or cameo's starting with season 4? i thought it was nice that the chibi trunks grows up to look just like him and act like him too, but i just wish future trunks made a return appearance, kinda of nice treat for us fans. :D
On the other hand, i always thought Shin Budokai: another road was a great idea, bad story >_< and they should of adapted it into a special or a saga for him but not exactly the same.

**Darkprince410** · 10-08-2007

I disagree with you on present timeline Torankusu acting like Mirai Torankusu when he's grown up (since there's still a bit of snobbiness to the character that I loathe), and even though it's non-canon, I think Mirai Torankusu's appearance in movie 9 was a perfect way to wrap up his character (come back in time to visit, participate in a special tournament, and help save the world from total destruction). It would have been nice had they wrapped up the movie with a fond farewell to him, but I still think it was quite good all the same.

Mclovin20 · 10-08-2007

Movie 9 was a great farewell, ur right :p i enjoyed it alot. But a brief cameo in his timeline wouldn't have hurt to see how the guy was doing. i mean the possibilities are endless as to what he ended up doing. I still found GT trunks to be similar, he was weaker and less devoted but i found him to be very similar to future trunks in personality and definetly appearance wise.

**LegendarySSJ7** · 10-08-2007

Yup, I was disappointed that "Future Trunks" didn't return. Chibi Trunks was the blight that sullied the character in my eyes, and there wasn't much character exposure to the present timeline counterpart to begin with (though there's not a lot to expose about two self-centered, frivolous brats without gentility... yes, I'm not thrilled that Goten turned out the same way - and with Gotenks it becomes even more disparaging and annoying... at least in attitude, even if Fusion is supposed to be application of such). Though I recollect Toriyama-sensei stating in an interview (can't remember which at this moment) that had he originally intended to continue the series beyond the Cell Saga Arc that Mirai Trunks would have returned.

It's why I prefer characters like Gohan (a character who matures and isn't stagnant... he definitively, genuinely cares about others, and is off fighting villains who impose domination of the universe on a whim, and at the age of 5 at that... sad to see what happened to him in Boo Saga Arc), Piccolo (who went from taking over the world in his older incarnation and developing a technique just to destroy Goku at the 23rd Budokai to becoming a tad more humble), and the Mirai Trunks (as stated). I also agree with Darkprince410 - that something along the nature of Movie 9 would have been a nice way to wrap up Mirai Trunks.

Mclovin20 · 10-08-2007

Hey Legendary SSJ7 i'm very confused with the whole production of DBZ eps. What i mean is, in your other posts, you mentioned they didn't originally plan on continueing after Frieza saga and that that was suppose to be the last saga of Z, i thought that only that funimation planned on ending it after that b4 they realised how popular it became. Also you said Though I recollect
Toriyama-sensei stating in an interview (can't remember which at this
moment) that had he originally intended to continue the series wat do u mean? did toriyama not work on series 4 & 5? or something else? i know he didn't do much on GT which is ashame cause that series did badly, but was toriyama less involved after cell saga? which sux if its true :(

ANB · 10-08-2007

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Originally Posted by LegendarySSj7

Yup, I was disappointed that "Future Trunks" didn't return. Chibi Trunks was the blight that sullied the character in my eyes, and there wasn't much character exposure to the present timeline counterpart to begin with (though there's not a lot to expose about two self-centered, frivolous brats without gentility... yes, I'm not thrilled that Goten turned out the same way - and with Gotenks it becomes even more disparaging and annoying... at least in attitude, even if Fusion is supposed to be application of such). Though I recollect Toriyama-sensei stating in an interview (can't remember which at this moment) that had he originally intended to continue the series beyond the Cell Saga Arc that Mirai Trunks would have returned.

I totally agree with your first paragraph. I voted for cameo, however, because in the game Legendary Super Warriors (GBC), you get to fight Mirai Trunks in the ROSAT while training before Buu. He uses a Dues Ex Machina explination that the dimensional barriers had a temporary rip as he was about to go back in time and tell everyone the android's weakness.

There was humorous dialogue in the scene, I'm sure Toei (Let alone Toriyama) could have come up with something if they really wanted to. I mean, what they did with the Super Buu/Piccolo absorbed drama and the entire Spirit Bomb battle made up for all the dragged out story, repetitive fights and dialogue, and the horrible, "dynamic" arguement between Vegeta and Goku about fusion (They only FURTHER exploited it's bad points with movie 12, not a good plot-device >%<).

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Originally Posted by Mclovin20

Hey Legendary SSJ7 i'm very confused with the whole production of DBZ eps. What i mean is, in your other posts, you mentioned they didn't originally plan on continueing after Frieza saga and that that was suppose to be the last saga of Z, i thought that only that funimation planned on ending it after that b4 they realised how popular it became. Also you said Though I recollect Toriyama-sensei stating in an interview (can't remember which at this moment) that had he originally intended to continue the series wat do u mean? did toriyama not work on series 4 & 5? or something else? i know he didn't do much on GT which is ashame cause that series did badly, but was toriyama less involved after cell saga? which sux if its true :(

I don't know too much about this, but from the interviews I've read it's true Toriyama was going to end it after Frieza (As far as the manga is concerned). Now, his involvement with the animation used to be essential, but as the Frieza saga ended and they started making Z films, they do not need his help (as much); Toriyama himself even comments on the great progress they made and that the art looks good when animated.

An example of the staff/Toriyam joint operations is Movie 5:

-They wrote the script and hired VA's.

-They drew most of the characters.

-They used Frieza's story-line as a basis for a new, innovative way to narrate DBZ.

However, Cooler himself and the SSJ form were a chalenge. They needed something new and flashy--everyone saw 100% Frieza. Toriyama designed 5th transformation (It is even mentioned in Bird Studio's notes), and drew for them how Goku should look as a SSJ (It was the first time they animated him in that form and they wanted to get it right).

The result...? One pretty damn good, original action flick. He designed the Armed Squad too btw, who were obviously inspired by the Ginyu Force.

FierceGamer · 10-08-2007

Absolutely I'm disappointed. Future Trunks is my favorite character in the whole show. Unlike the other Saiyans, he seems immune to the effects of excessive Saiyan pride. Goku, Vegeta, Gohan, Goten, and Kid Trunks all make really stupid decisions as soon as they get a little power. Trunks, to my knowledge, is the only Saiyan who's only concern is the safety of the earth. The way he deals with the androids and Cell in his future was refreshing. He just completely annihilated them without dragging the fights on for no reason. I often find Trunks saying what I would if I could give the Z fighters some advice. ("We should wait for Goku." IMO, the smartest thing ever said.) On top of all that, his potential as a fighter is definitely one of the highest in the show. By that I mean if he kept up with his training, he could have been useful in the Buu Saga. Kid Trunks is a sad substitute for Future Trunks.

Yaki · 10-08-2007

I agree with you there on your point of him not suffering from the excess of saiyan pride but as you said his first thought is the safety of the earth. I don't think he should come back as his duty is to his timeline. Seen as he is the only hero left and there are more than enough in the regular timeline he should stay in his timeline to rebuild the earth and help the survivors of the Androids destruction. There is no reason for him to need to come back and so there can be mre concentration on other characters from the origianl timeline.

FierceGamer · 10-08-2007

Maybe Future Trunks comes back because he needs help on some horrible villain in his timeline. The heroes from the "present" timeline should all go have a crazy adventure in the future!

SaiyajinPerfection · 10-08-2007

I wasn't disappointed, I never liked his character to begin with. I never saw him as either humorous or a good fighter.

FierceGamer · 10-08-2007

He's not very funny at all, I'll give you that. He's an excellent fighter though. He comes through and saves the day a couple of times. I don't know why you think he sucks.

SaiyajinPerfection · 10-08-2007

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Originally Posted by FierceGamer

He's not very funny at all, I'll give you that. He's an excellent fighter though. He comes through and saves the day a couple of times. I don't know why you think he sucks.

Having raw power doesn't make a warrior "excellent". I think that Super Saiya-jin Dai San Denkai is as far as I need to explain. Both Goku and Vegeta were smart enough to immeidiately take notice of the flaws and avoid it all together. Trunks was too focused on power to even concieve the flaws until Cell pointed it out to him. The failure to notice that nearly cost him his life, it was both foolish and reflected a lack of skill. Another thing is that he never plans things out, he just rushes into battle, hoping to win with force.

FierceGamer · 10-08-2007

Well keep in mind that he would have thrashed Cell if the "superior" Vegeta had just not gotten in his way. Goku and Gohan are also guilty of not finishing Cell when they could have. Trunks may not be the most adept fighter of the group (though I think than if he had come back in the Buu Saga, he just might have been), but his decision making is leagues above and beyond anyone else's except maybe Picolo. I've always liked that about him.

Broly · 10-09-2007

Trunks isn't stupid but sometimes he does make mistakes. This is seen several times in DBZ. But, that could only be natural as Trunks is quite a bit younger than Goku and Vegeta. He has less experience. How he couldn't see that SSj Grade 3 slows you down is beyond me. As soon as Goku transformed into it he figured it out without even moving in it. I think Trunks was blinded by hate and determination to much to even see clearly. Anyway, he did well taking out the future androids and future Cell. He wasted no time, and that's good. I would've really liked to see him come visit again in the Buu Arc. Imagine, if he too reached SSj3 in the Future RoSaT or something...that'd be a surprise.

FierceGamer · 10-09-2007

Well, SS 3rd grade doesn't really slow you down, does it? I thought that it just barely augmented speed. I'm sure it's faster than SS 2nd grade. And btw SS3 Future Trunks in the Buu Saga was exactly what I was thinking. That would be amazing.

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Mclovin20 (4) Turtle School Disciple Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 29 Rep Power: 0	Anyone else dissapointed future trunks didnt return? Hey, as the subject title says ^^ anyone else besides me feels a little sad or angry/disappointed that Mirai Trunks didn't return as promised at then end of season 3? i mean we got to see him in Bojack unbound, which was nice, but thats not canon, so I'm wondering besides the possibility he returned in the 7 years before season 4, why he didnt make any appearances or cameo's starting with season 4? i thought it was nice that the chibi trunks grows up to look just like him and act like him too, but i just wish future trunks made a return appearance, kinda of nice treat for us fans. :D On the other hand, i always thought Shin Budokai: another road was a great idea, bad story >_< and they should of adapted it into a special or a saga for him but not exactly the same.

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Darkprince410 Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ohio, United States Posts: 3,071 Rep Power: 64	Re: Anyone else dissapointed future trunks didnt return? I disagree with you on present timeline Torankusu acting like Mirai Torankusu when he's grown up (since there's still a bit of snobbiness to the character that I loathe), and even though it's non-canon, I think Mirai Torankusu's appearance in movie 9 was a perfect way to wrap up his character (come back in time to visit, participate in a special tournament, and help save the world from total destruction). It would have been nice had they wrapped up the movie with a fond farewell to him, but I still think it was quite good all the same. __________________

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Mclovin20 (4) Turtle School Disciple Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 29 Rep Power: 0	Re: Anyone else dissapointed future trunks didnt return? Movie 9 was a great farewell, ur right :p i enjoyed it alot. But a brief cameo in his timeline wouldn't have hurt to see how the guy was doing. i mean the possibilities are endless as to what he ended up doing. I still found GT trunks to be similar, he was weaker and less devoted but i found him to be very similar to future trunks in personality and definetly appearance wise.

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LegendarySSJ7 Moderator Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: LA. Posts: 2,895 Rep Power: 78	Re: Anyone else dissapointed future trunks didnt return? Yup, I was disappointed that "Future Trunks" didn't return. Chibi Trunks was the blight that sullied the character in my eyes, and there wasn't much character exposure to the present timeline counterpart to begin with (though there's not a lot to expose about two self-centered, frivolous brats without gentility... yes, I'm not thrilled that Goten turned out the same way - and with Gotenks it becomes even more disparaging and annoying... at least in attitude, even if Fusion is supposed to be application of such). Though I recollect Toriyama-sensei stating in an interview (can't remember which at this moment) that had he originally intended to continue the series beyond the Cell Saga Arc that Mirai Trunks would have returned. It's why I prefer characters like Gohan (a character who matures and isn't stagnant... he definitively, genuinely cares about others, and is off fighting villains who impose domination of the universe on a whim, and at the age of 5 at that... sad to see what happened to him in Boo Saga Arc), Piccolo (who went from taking over the world in his older incarnation and developing a technique just to destroy Goku at the 23rd Budokai to becoming a tad more humble), and the Mirai Trunks (as stated). I also agree with Darkprince410 - that something along the nature of Movie 9 would have been a nice way to wrap up Mirai Trunks. __________________

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Mclovin20 (4) Turtle School Disciple Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 29 Rep Power: 0	Re: Anyone else dissapointed future trunks didnt return? Hey Legendary SSJ7 i'm very confused with the whole production of DBZ eps. What i mean is, in your other posts, you mentioned they didn't originally plan on continueing after Frieza saga and that that was suppose to be the last saga of Z, i thought that only that funimation planned on ending it after that b4 they realised how popular it became. Also you said Though I recollect Toriyama-sensei stating in an interview (can't remember which at this moment) that had he originally intended to continue the series wat do u mean? did toriyama not work on series 4 & 5? or something else? i know he didn't do much on GT which is ashame cause that series did badly, but was toriyama less involved after cell saga? which sux if its true :(

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FierceGamer (13) Great Ape Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New York, NY Posts: 286 Rep Power: 2	Re: Anyone else dissapointed future trunks didnt return? Absolutely I'm disappointed. Future Trunks is my favorite character in the whole show. Unlike the other Saiyans, he seems immune to the effects of excessive Saiyan pride. Goku, Vegeta, Gohan, Goten, and Kid Trunks all make really stupid decisions as soon as they get a little power. Trunks, to my knowledge, is the only Saiyan who's only concern is the safety of the earth. The way he deals with the androids and Cell in his future was refreshing. He just completely annihilated them without dragging the fights on for no reason. I often find Trunks saying what I would if I could give the Z fighters some advice. ("We should wait for Goku." IMO, the smartest thing ever said.) On top of all that, his potential as a fighter is definitely one of the highest in the show. By that I mean if he kept up with his training, he could have been useful in the Buu Saga. Kid Trunks is a sad substitute for Future Trunks. __________________ One day Chuck Norris walked down the street with a massive erection ... there were no survivors.

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Yaki (17) Super Saiyan Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: NESW of here Posts: 781 Rep Power: 13	Re: Anyone else dissapointed future trunks didnt return? I agree with you there on your point of him not suffering from the excess of saiyan pride but as you said his first thought is the safety of the earth. I don't think he should come back as his duty is to his timeline. Seen as he is the only hero left and there are more than enough in the regular timeline he should stay in his timeline to rebuild the earth and help the survivors of the Androids destruction. There is no reason for him to need to come back and so there can be mre concentration on other characters from the origianl timeline.

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FierceGamer (13) Great Ape Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New York, NY Posts: 286 Rep Power: 2	Re: Anyone else dissapointed future trunks didnt return? Maybe Future Trunks comes back because he needs help on some horrible villain in his timeline. The heroes from the "present" timeline should all go have a crazy adventure in the future! __________________ One day Chuck Norris walked down the street with a massive erection ... there were no survivors.

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SaiyajinPerfection (20) Super Saiyan 2 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Not where you are Posts: 1,453 Blog Entries: 10 Rep Power: 22	Re: Anyone else dissapointed future trunks didnt return? I wasn't disappointed, I never liked his character to begin with. I never saw him as either humorous or a good fighter. __________________ Formerly the member demonkingpiccolo "Let's put a SMILE on that face!" REP OWED: Madness, Madness, Madness, Madness, Frieza the Tyrant, Madness, Madness, SSJBulma, Madness, Madness, Madness, The Green Dragon, Madness....and...oh wait, did I mention Madness?

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FierceGamer (13) Great Ape Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New York, NY Posts: 286 Rep Power: 2	Re: Anyone else dissapointed future trunks didnt return? He's not very funny at all, I'll give you that. He's an excellent fighter though. He comes through and saves the day a couple of times. I don't know why you think he sucks. __________________ One day Chuck Norris walked down the street with a massive erection ... there were no survivors.

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FierceGamer (13) Great Ape Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New York, NY Posts: 286 Rep Power: 2	Re: Anyone else dissapointed future trunks didnt return? Well keep in mind that he would have thrashed Cell if the "superior" Vegeta had just not gotten in his way. Goku and Gohan are also guilty of not finishing Cell when they could have. Trunks may not be the most adept fighter of the group (though I think than if he had come back in the Buu Saga, he just might have been), but his decision making is leagues above and beyond anyone else's except maybe Picolo. I've always liked that about him. __________________ One day Chuck Norris walked down the street with a massive erection ... there were no survivors.

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Broly El Gran Profeta de Saiyan Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 7,578 Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 36	Re: Anyone else dissapointed future trunks didnt return? Trunks isn't stupid but sometimes he does make mistakes. This is seen several times in DBZ. But, that could only be natural as Trunks is quite a bit younger than Goku and Vegeta. He has less experience. How he couldn't see that SSj Grade 3 slows you down is beyond me. As soon as Goku transformed into it he figured it out without even moving in it. I think Trunks was blinded by hate and determination to much to even see clearly. Anyway, he did well taking out the future androids and future Cell. He wasted no time, and that's good. I would've really liked to see him come visit again in the Buu Arc. Imagine, if he too reached SSj3 in the Future RoSaT or something...that'd be a surprise. __________________ $E:\Avatars\cool.JPG$

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FierceGamer (13) Great Ape Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New York, NY Posts: 286 Rep Power: 2	Re: Anyone else dissapointed future trunks didnt return? Well, SS 3rd grade doesn't really slow you down, does it? I thought that it just barely augmented speed. I'm sure it's faster than SS 2nd grade. And btw SS3 Future Trunks in the Buu Saga was exactly what I was thinking. That would be amazing. __________________ One day Chuck Norris walked down the street with a massive erection ... there were no survivors.