Power gap

Haxafax · 10-04-2007

Which power gap is larger? The power gap between Frieza (full power) and Cell (post-zenkai) or the power gap between Cell (post-zenkai) and Fat Buu.

Broly · 10-04-2007

The gap between Cell [Post-Zenkai] and Fat Buu is larger than the gap between Freeza [Full Power] and Cell [Post Zenkai].

Super Cool · 10-04-2007

i don't know what zenkai is but i'll say Cell and Buu.

**Zer0** · 10-04-2007

If you don't know what a zenkai is why bother answering. It a near-death increase by the way.

Kanzentai Seru (Near-Death Increase) and Furiza (Full Power) is a far larger gap than Majin Buu (Zen) and Kanzentai Seru (Near-Death Increase).

Majin Buu (Zen) was weaker than a Super Saiyajin 3 Gokuu. Assuming the multiplier was 3-fold and Gokuu wasn't that much stronger than Kanzentai Seru (Near-Death Increase) their difference would be somewhere between 3 to 4-fold. Kanzentai Seru (Near-Death Increase) and Furiza (Full Power) is at least a 400-fold difference depending on your Super Saiyajin 2 multiplier (I used a 5 in this case even though I usually use a much higher multiplier).

SRP76 · 10-04-2007

Based on what?

I say the gap from Frieza to Cell is larger.

"Super Perfect" Cell >>>>> Perfect Cell >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>"Ascended" Super Saiyan Vegeta >>>> Stage two Cell >>>>>>>> Android 16 = Imperfect Cell >>> Android 17 > Android 18 >>> Super Saiyan Vegeta >= Super Saiyan Goku > (at least) Frieza.

Those are a LOT of not just small, but huge power gaps.

Broly · 10-04-2007

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Originally Posted by Zer0

If you don't know what a zenkai is why bother answering. It a near-death increase by the way.

Kanzentai Seru (Near-Death Increase) and Furiza (Full Power) is a far larger gap than Majin Buu (Zen) and Kanzentai Seru (Near-Death Increase).

Majin Buu (Zen) was weaker than a Super Saiyajin 3 Gokuu. Assuming the multiplier was 3-fold and Gokuu wasn't that much stronger than Kanzentai Seru (Near-Death Increase) their difference would be somewhere between 3 to 4-fold. Kanzentai Seru (Near-Death Increase) and Furiza (Full Power) is at least a 400-fold difference depending on your Super Saiyajin 2 multiplier (I used a 5 in this case even though I usually use a much higher multiplier).

Goku said he didn't even know if he could've beaten Fat Buu. Meaning Fat Buu rivals SSj3 power.

**Zer0** · 10-04-2007

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Originally Posted by Broly

Goku said he didn't even know if he could've beaten Fat Buu. Meaning Fat Buu rivals SSj3 power.

Regardless even if Majin Buu (Zen) was twice as strong as Super Saiyajin 3 Gokuu that would make the gap 6 to 8-fold for Kanzentai Seru (Near-Death Increase). Thats still nothing to a 400-fold difference.

Devilz · 10-04-2007

My guesses say:
100% Freiza --> Super Perfect Cell = 500x
Super Perfect Cell ---> Fat Buu = 11x
This isn't even close, lol.

Broly · 10-04-2007

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Originally Posted by Zer0

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Originally Posted by Broly

Goku said he didn't even know if he could've beaten Fat Buu. Meaning Fat Buu rivals SSj3 power.

Regardless even if Majin Buu (Zen) was twice as strong as Super Saiyajin 3 Gokuu that would make the gap 6 to 8-fold for Kanzentai Seru (Near-Death Increase). Thats still nothing to a 400-fold difference.

Are you speaking of the multiplier, or the actual PL difference in numbers?

**Zer0** · 10-04-2007

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Originally Posted by Broly

Are you speaking of the multiplier, or the actual PL difference in numbers?

A little from column A and a little from column B.

Seriously I don't get your question.

FierceGamer · 10-04-2007

If we had to give their power levels numbers, the number gap between Buu and Cell would be greater, but if you're asking who would beat who worse, then Cell would beat Frieza much worse than Fat Buu would beat Cell. Hope that makes sense.

**LegendarySSJ7** · 10-05-2007

The former discrepancy or "Power gap". If this is the "post-explosion" Complete Cell who developed an SSj2 Aura (the one Gohan underestimated with a tad too much amour propre), then without prating on I'd have to say that the gap between SSj2 Cell and 100% organic Freeza is MUCH larger by a long stretch. I don't foresee Fat Boo (the Majin or Sweet Boo) more than 3+x 'post-explosion' Cell's wielded power, but the gap between organic 100% Freeza and 'post-explosion' Complete Cell is so prodigious that I think guaging at the gap is rather inane. Either way, both of them can easily deal away with Freeza at their leisure in a single punch (as the artistic license taken in the Boo Saga Arc also goes to show, as it alludes to that) As Zer0 said, at least way above 100x, if not 1,000x+, conforming with my guestimations at it.

Nikushimi · 10-05-2007

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Originally Posted by LegendarySSj7

The former discrepancy or "Power gap". If this is the "post-explosion" Complete Cell who developed an SSj2 Aura (the one Gohan underestimated with a tad too much amour propre), then without prating on I'd have to say that the gap between SSj2 Cell and 100% organic Freeza is MUCH larger by a long stretch. I don't foresee Fat Boo (the Majin or Sweet Boo) more than 3+x 'post-explosion' Cell's wielded power, but the gap between organic 100% Freeza and 'post-explosion' Complete Cell is so prodigious that I think guaging at the gap is rather inane. Either way, both of them can easily deal away with Freeza at their leisure in a single punch (as the artistic license taken in the Boo Saga Arc also goes to show) As Zer0 said, at least way above 100x, if not 1,000x+, conforming with my guestimations at it.

Two unrelated issues I feel I must address:

1. Your use of the word "guestimation". People who say that word make me want to launch a kitten into the sun.

2. Something I have pointed out in the past, being your overuse of "uncommon" words (not "big" words, as most call them). I do understand what they mean, but the term "uncommon" means just that- not widely used. You give your speech a very unnatural feel, almost forced. I don't know if you genuinely grasp the meaning of such words and have them come to mind as second-nature, but at least from another person's standpoint (i.e., my own), it's as if you're sitting at your computer with a dictionary in your lap, looking for better-sounding synonyms for simpler words that would suffice on their own to get the point across. It's particularly bizarre and out of place in a discussion about a kiddy cartoon like DBZ.

As for this topic's purpose, I'd say that the gap between Frieza and Cell is proportionally larger, but the gap between Cell and Buu is actually much wider. In other words- and this is totally inaccurate -let's say the gap between Frieza and Cell is 80%, and the gap between Cell and Buu is 50%. Let's say Frieza's PL is 5, Cell's is 25, and Buu's is 50. 5 is 20% of 25. The difference is 20. 25 is 50% of 50. The difference is 25. Despite the fact that 5 and 25 are separated by a proportionally larger gap, the gap between 25 and 50 measures out to be bigger. That's what I'm saying.

OberstGeiger · 10-05-2007

You're not alone; I've mentioned it before as well.

Frieza's power level in relation to Cell's is very diminutive. We cannot say that a being that was smashed apart, figuratively speaking, by a Super Saiyajin 1. Cell does not get the same response till be a Super Saiyajin 2 in the name of Gohan; a power that is not witnessed to be rivaled for awhile.

BurningVegeta · 10-05-2007

but since Gohan was almost completey battered wouldn't he be getting a power up as time went on against perfect cell's completey dead (sayain genes) + (namek genes) zenkai beyond anyone apart from the Maijin Buu's if they get one i belive they do. So even though Cell was knocked of Gaurd by Vegeta huge power ball Cell shouldn't have ben ffetc if hut thanks to his regenration making him even stronger once more,leaving the gap between Cell and Gohan quite big, thus making Freiza and Cell gap, huge.

Firstly if you can estimate the game between a ssj2 zenkai Gohan you can't if his power level is still raisng plus his Kamemahahma making him 4x stronger plus all the Z fighters attacking Cell its hard to say how strong Gohan was against Cell's new power as Gohan had constant help whilst fighing him, and Gokus Kmaehamaha so thats now a 8x stonger Gohan, but this isn't Gohan on his own.

Would Buu have been able to stand up against the Z fighters unslaught, maybe not making the gap between Majin Buu and Cell Closer but Freiza and Cell huge

Majin Buu............................................... ......Super Perfect Cell...........................Perfect Cell.......................Freiza, theres my estimated gaps

10-04-2007	#1 (permalink)
Haxafax (6) Disciple of Kami Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 45 Rep Power: 0	Power gap Which power gap is larger? The power gap between Frieza (full power) and Cell (post-zenkai) or the power gap between Cell (post-zenkai) and Fat Buu.

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Broly El Gran Profeta de Saiyan Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 7,578 Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 36	Re: Power gap The gap between Cell [Post-Zenkai] and Fat Buu is larger than the gap between Freeza [Full Power] and Cell [Post Zenkai]. __________________ $E:\Avatars\cool.JPG$

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Super Cool Naruto Ranked (26) Shichibi Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: SuperCoolsville Posts: 5,246 Rep Power: 32	Re: Power gap i don't know what zenkai is but i'll say Cell and Buu. __________________

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Zer0 Super Moderator Join Date: May 2006 Location: Hn, None of your business Posts: 10,317 Blog Entries: 5 Rep Power: 201	Re: Power gap If you don't know what a zenkai is why bother answering. It a near-death increase by the way. Kanzentai Seru (Near-Death Increase) and Furiza (Full Power) is a far larger gap than Majin Buu (Zen) and Kanzentai Seru (Near-Death Increase). Majin Buu (Zen) was weaker than a Super Saiyajin 3 Gokuu. Assuming the multiplier was 3-fold and Gokuu wasn't that much stronger than Kanzentai Seru (Near-Death Increase) their difference would be somewhere between 3 to 4-fold. Kanzentai Seru (Near-Death Increase) and Furiza (Full Power) is at least a 400-fold difference depending on your Super Saiyajin 2 multiplier (I used a 5 in this case even though I usually use a much higher multiplier).

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SRP76 (23) Final Warrior Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 2,373 Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 53	Re: Power gap Based on what? I say the gap from Frieza to Cell is larger. "Super Perfect" Cell >>>>> Perfect Cell >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>"Ascended" Super Saiyan Vegeta >>>> Stage two Cell >>>>>>>> Android 16 = Imperfect Cell >>> Android 17 > Android 18 >>> Super Saiyan Vegeta >= Super Saiyan Goku > (at least) Frieza. Those are a LOT of not just small, but huge power gaps.

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FierceGamer (13) Great Ape Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New York, NY Posts: 286 Rep Power: 2	Re: Power gap If we had to give their power levels numbers, the number gap between Buu and Cell would be greater, but if you're asking who would beat who worse, then Cell would beat Frieza much worse than Fat Buu would beat Cell. Hope that makes sense. __________________ One day Chuck Norris walked down the street with a massive erection ... there were no survivors.

10-05-2007	#12 (permalink)
LegendarySSJ7 Moderator Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: LA. Posts: 2,895 Rep Power: 78	Re: Power gap The former discrepancy or "Power gap". If this is the "post-explosion" Complete Cell who developed an SSj2 Aura (the one Gohan underestimated with a tad too much amour propre), then without prating on I'd have to say that the gap between SSj2 Cell and 100% organic Freeza is MUCH larger by a long stretch. I don't foresee Fat Boo (the Majin or Sweet Boo) more than 3+x 'post-explosion' Cell's wielded power, but the gap between organic 100% Freeza and 'post-explosion' Complete Cell is so prodigious that I think guaging at the gap is rather inane. Either way, both of them can easily deal away with Freeza at their leisure in a single punch (as the artistic license taken in the Boo Saga Arc also goes to show, as it alludes to that) As Zer0 said, at least way above 100x, if not 1,000x+, conforming with my guestimations at it. __________________

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OberstGeiger (19) Mastered Super Saiyan Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: British Columbia, Canada Posts: 1,199 Blog Entries: 5 Rep Power: 129	Re: Power gap You're not alone; I've mentioned it before as well. Frieza's power level in relation to Cell's is very diminutive. We cannot say that a being that was smashed apart, figuratively speaking, by a Super Saiyajin 1. Cell does not get the same response till be a Super Saiyajin 2 in the name of Gohan; a power that is not witnessed to be rivaled for awhile. __________________ Fan fusions will FUCK your Shit UP!