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I know there is a topic about this but I can't find it. Anyone care to elaborate?

Super Cool

We don't know the PL of freeza's third, fourth and 100% form but when he reached his second form he was in the millions so his other forms should be much higher.

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FierceGamer

In his second form Frieza says his power level is over one million. It makes sense that SS Goku and Final Form Frieza would be in the millions, doesn't it?

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SRP76

Even after changing it to hundreds of millions, it still must be.

If Frieza's second form had a maximum power level of "over a million", then everything we see him do after that must be even greater still. Meaning, he was over that million-something when he went to his third form, then increased even more when he went to final form.

Now, we do know that Frieza's "100%" maximum was more than 40 times Goku's base power. If Goku was fighting somewhat evenly with Frieza before he pumped up to 50% (which he was), then Goku's power level had to be "in the millions". Multiply that by 40. You get that Frieza's power level must have been AT LEAST 40 million.

So, 100 million isn't such a stretch.

Zer0

There used to be a pinned thread about this very subject.

Just read this for an in-depth analysis

http://mfgforums.com/forums/p/3980/31170.aspx#31170

Nikushimi

Frieza's base PL was stated by himself to be a little over 500,000. His second form, also stated by himself, was said to be over a million. That's a 2x increase. Also, take into account the fact that Gohan pounded Frieza's second form into the ground with energy blasts, but that Frieza's third form (with some effort) managed to deflect a single full-power blast from Gohan and basically own him. Considering the amount of effort it still took to deflect the blast, the multiplier can't be any greater than 2x. Also, while Piccolo was managing an even fight with Frieza's second form, he was clearly outclassed by his third form. With this pattern, it's more logical to assume that Frieza's final form yields a 2-3x increase at the most. Goku's PL prior to fighting Frieza was 180,000 at his absolute maximum (meaning with Kaio-Ken times whatever the number was). Even with the Saiyan recovery bonus, Goku would probably fall around the 500,000-800,000 mark AT BEST, in base form. It was stated that he had been using Kaio-Ken the entire time he fought Frieza from the beginning, so that might put him around 10,000,000. Meaning 1% of Frieza's full power is a little over 10,000,000, meaning Frieza's full power is 100,000,000.

Although, that doesn't fit with Frieza's transformation multiplier, which would place him, at best, at around 6,000,000.

Now, you could assume one (or maybe both) of two things: Maybe Goku was using a low-multiplier Kaio-Ken to conserve power, and/or maybe Frieza was exaggerating his strength. Even so, it still comes out as being pretty far from the mark.

This is a typical (Feel free to convey yourself... with a clean phrase that doesn't do away with the nerves.--LegendarySSj7) in the laws of DBZ. The series is full of more holes than Sasuke after two years in Otogakure swiss cheese.

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Zer0

Oh Niku, so many flaws

Stated exactly at 530,000

With the Kaiou-Ken (2-fold increase) his PL is at 180,000 so his base would be 90,000. Adding in the Kaiou-Ken x10 that makes 900,000 his limit without draining all of his Ki aka using the Kaiou-Ken x20.

Bejita's near-death increase gave him an around 20-fold increase. Gokuu's would be and was higher than that.

That's after Furiza's went to 50% power.

Gokuu=Furiza

Gokuu (Kaiou-Ken)>>>Furiza

Furiza (50%)>>>Gokuu (Kaiou-Ken x10)

No arguements here but still...you should read my link.

SSGokuTim

Wow. Some of you are just WAY off. Check almost every single DBZ site that shows power levels. Most of them show the same or around the same power levels. Akira Troiyama created the power levels from the Saiyan saga up until the Trunks saga. He stated this himself. In the vast majority of sites that list power levels including MFG state these levels.

Goku (Base): 300,000

Goku (Kaioken x10): 3,000,000

Goku (Kaioken x20): 6,000,000

Super Saiyan Goku: 15,000,000

Frieza (Form 1): 530,000 (As stated in the manga)

Frieza (Form 2): 1,000,000+

Frieza (Form 3): 2,500,000

Frieza (Final Form): 3,500,000--6,000,000

Frieza (100% Full Power): 12,000,000

And yes, I got these from official sources. The reason why Frieza (3,500,000--4,000,000) didn't own Goku in that fight is because Goku was using the 10x Kaioken for most of the fight, as stated by King Kai (Kaio.) This brought him up to 3,000,000 and then 6,000,000 with the 20x Kaioken. Then back down to 300,000 when the Kaioken wore off. Then, when he transformed into a Super Saiyan, which multiplies the power level x50 (as stated in official sources) so this brought him up to 15,000,000. In short:

SSJ Goku: 15,000,000

Frieza (100%): 12,000,000

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Zer0

There all wrong.
I made a topic asking them to update their list.
The "offical sources" were mistranslated.

In french

SSGokuTim

Well that scan pretty much screws every DBZ website I've been to.

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Darkprince410

That's why barring the ones taken directly from the manga, there really is no clear cut and 100% flawless source of information regarding specific power levels. These numbers themselves aren't terribly accurate (Nappa's power level, the Cultivars, etc) but they do give a ballpark figure as to where their power levels should be.

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