Darkprince410

How can they move faster than light when according to the very interview that you posted in another topic, the top tier fighters (Ssj Bejitto, Shin Buu Gohan Prime, etc) in Z at the very end were just then able to reach the velocity of light?

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Majuub

That's the diffrence of intensity and power. In DBZ the character's Ki blast are hella poweful but their intensity isn't that high because usally, the bigger the Ki Blast is the stronger it gets, not always though. The saiyan can have tough skin or anything but they can't resist a temperature as high as a nuclear explosion, I think that a Nuclear explosion is much more intense than the Ki blast of the most powerful characters from DBZ. We all saw what they were capable of, their Ki Blast destroyed cities but there was still ruins, with a nuclear explosion there will be nothing left, everything in site will be vaporized (except strong structures) but a human being will be completely eareased, the same thing for a sayin or anyone.
DBZ is rather unrealstic so it's rather pointless to compare it to real life, the only way the characters could resist a nuclear explosion would be for them to have an energy shield around them, but leave them without nothing and they are all history, a nuclear blast is way too intense.
An exemple, when Kid Buu was about to blow up the planet, Goku and Vegeta were, Oh my god we're not going to be able to stop that. Kid Buu isn't that insanely powerful, they were scared because if the earth blew up, they would die with it, if an atomic explosion was powerful enough to destroy the earth, they would be scared as hell but it's only intensity not impact.

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ultimate sayia-jin 5

SS2 Vegeto: 50 megatons is not enough TNT to put a crater in a planet that could destroy it. For a planet with anickel-iron core the size of Earth it would that it would take 2.83X10^9 Gigatons. Also second form Cell could destroy the planet without hitting the core seeing as how he was just standing on the surface when he self destructed. Also Kaio's planet could possibly be more difficult to destroy Kaio's planet then Earth due to its extreme density.



Majuub 666: Goku and Vegeta were scared by the amount of energy that Boo put into it although it was small it could destroy the solar system seeing as how Vegeta and Goku could not deflect it. Freeza states that if he got cought in the explosion his energy would decrease greatly nothing about dieing seeing that i'm willing to bet SSJ Goku in the trunks saga could take a planet destroying blast with no damage whatsoever let alone Boo saga Goku and Vegeta.

mAIOR

I know ki isn't physical energy. But, in order to interact with our plane of existance, it has to be turned into such. Else, it wouldn't destroy a planet.

Now, i don't agree that Freeza holding backwas unintentional anyway, I still think a strong ki blast could raise the temperature a lot (you already know my view about this). Now, if you detonated an Hidrogen bomb on the Earths core, it wouldn't be enough to destroy it. You'd increase the vulcanic activity but the sheer density of the Earths core would prevent it from exploding unless, it could cause a chain reaction wich I doubt it would. Remember, Nuclear reactions happen on our Earths core every time.
So, my feeling is a nuke wouldn't be enough to dispose of a DBZ character. Also, I believe it is stated that DBZ characters can move faster than light therefore, they could escape a blackhole or, supply enough energy to it enough to "shut it down" (see theoretical models for our galaxy core!).

Cheers mates and they are just my opinions remember so no hard feelings??

EDIT: Ultimate Saiajin5, that's why I like you :p some time ago we had similar discussions and you got an approach similar to mine Kudos to you!

SS2 Vegeto

Because it's not directed at anything, nor is it large enough to cause that much damage from the surface...Vegeta put a crater in the earth. Did that destroy it? No? Could it?
It'd still be ki - either a unique form of energy, or interracting with matter as an energy that transcends matter.
It's stated that he held back out of fear.

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Final Ultima

Cause DBZ characters got faster and more powerful as the series went on!

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mAIOR

What he meant was even if you placed the 50MT blast in a cone with the opening directed downward (in the center of the Earth would be kinda redundant since the pressure would be huge!) it wouldn't destroy the Earth cause it wouldn't have enough raw power to do so.


Cheers...

Final Ultima

I understood your point. Vegeta's Galick Gun IS more powerful than his suicde explosion because the Galick Gun was able to "vaporize" the planet. Even Piccolo's hand beam that "vaporized" the moon could have possibly destroyed earth as well. Your correct, it is not how much you can destroy but HOW it gets destroyed.

DBZ characters can destroy Entire Solar Systems and Galaxies, they are greater than Black holes.

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mAIOR

So, you're talking about a 5th state of matter... Do you know the energy it would require to do so? Really I like the plasma theory it's more feasable than that.

Cheers...

Final Ultima

I don't understand "5th state of matter," sorry.

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ultimate sayia-jin 5

Final Ultima no one in dragonball can destroy Galaxies their 400 billion stars in a galaxy some with masses many times that of the sun Complete Cell post regeneration most likley coud not destroy 2 stars so their is no way and SSJ3 Vegetto would be that much stronger.

mAIOR

well, in the good old days, we got 4 states of matter (atributed by a greek) wich were:
Earth
Water
Wind
Fire

Then, technology evolved and after millions spent on research, we reached the conclusion that the 4 states of matter were something completely different wich were:

Solid
Liquid
Gas
Plasma

However, there are theories (nothing proved more speculations for that matter) involving a fifth state of matter even more energetic than plasma it's nearly just pure energy.

That's what I meant. Oh it was directe4d at SSJ2 Vegetto post.

Cheers...

SS2 Vegeto

..he didn't specify anything like that..he even mentioned a crater..it's a nuclear detonation - a short burst of power. It's not a solid sphere of energy or a beam that can penetrate anything - it's a release of energy.
If you actually think that Vegeta's gallick gun in the Saiya-jin saga is more powerful than an expulsion of all his ki in the Buu saga, I can only say that you are totally mistaken.
..do you know how many times larger a star has to be than our sun to form a black hole..? Furthermore, no character in dragonball can come close to destroying a galaxy..

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Final Ultima

1. Galcik Gun could vaporize a planet, Suicide explosion could not. There is a difference.

2.Concerning blowing up Galaxies....





Episdoe 219!

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warcrack

Filler!I think that destroying something also depends on the "shape" of the chi. The Galik Gun destroyed a planet because it was a concentrated beam of energy directed at something. The Final Skill didn't destroy Earth (despite its chi level) because its energy wasn't focused and was more like a blast that scattered, without any target.

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