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Old 09-20-2007   #31 (permalink)
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Bulla did not have the same amount of Saiyan blood in her as Gohan or trunks. Trunks and gohan are 1/2 Saiyan. Bulla, Pan, and Goten are 1/4 Saiyan
No. Bulla, Pan, and Goten are all half Saiyan. Goten turned into a Super Saiyan more easily than anyone else. Bulla and Pan both suck. It has nothing to do with their blood content. They just don't fight enough.
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Pan was one-fourth.
Gohan was half, and Videl had no Saiyan in her. ...Or... she did... but....... yeah.
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Pan was one-fourth.
Gohan was half, and Videl had no Saiyan in her. ...Or... she did... but....... yeah.

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Pan was one-fourth.

Gohan was half, and Videl had no Saiyan in her. ...Or... she did... but....... yeah.


Sexual innuendo! This must not stand. I proclaim that last bit there unacceptable and apologise for all the talk about naughty bits. Anyways, to the topic.

You have to consider the fact that Pan liked to fight. Vegeta's girl didn't. She just liked to get it in her...and go shopping. Pan on the other hand was a fighter. Given that, there is a probability of her becoming a Super Saiyajin at a point in her life. Perhaps if GT went on we'd see that. Not that it'd be useful. Guys wouldn't like her because shes flat and ugly.
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LMAO. She's also a terrible fighter who kept getting beat up.
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its funny how pan the grandaughter of goku loved to fight and bulla the daughter of vegeta didn't love to fight. It's really odd.
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Lol how ironic.
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I thought it was weird seeing how gohan turned out as an adult
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stupid gohan such an idiot, if bra trained like i'm sure she would have been able to do it like trunks considering vegeta could now turn ssj2 increase his sayain power or whatever, giveing bra more of a chnace to turn super sayian. but bulma's genes muct have been more dominant as she turned out to be a gril anyway, Vegeta didn't care any
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Most likely it is possible but the animators didn't want to deal with it for stylistic reasons.
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Yeah.............The main reason was they didn't know how the females could be designed....................
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I really don't think it would be that hard. They'd be muscular and have golden glowing hair just like everyone else. I think the real reason they didn't have female Super Saiyans was that in GT they were appeasing a small minded audience that just wouldn't have it. This is an audience that couldn't even handle anyone but Goku being the hero. I think that if AT had gone on with the series, he would have eventually created a female Super Saiyan since women have always been powerful characters in DBZ. Almost all of the women in DBZ have tons of power, just not in the conventional beat-the-holy-sh#t-out-of-you way.
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Dear lord, how immature can people get? [rolleyes]

Well since you want to play it that way: Then you just contradicted yourself. I'll actually be immature enough to say this: She didn't have Saiyan in her, she had half-Saiyan in her.

I just discovered that it was stated in Daizenshuu that Pan couldn't become a Super Saiyan because her blood was too diluted (Which Toei obviously were stupid enough to ignore when they created Goku Jr and Vegeta Jr., who can arguably even call themselves Saiyans).
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I just discovered that it was stated in Daizenshuu that Pan couldn't become a Super Saiyan because her blood was too diluted (Which Toei obviously were stupid enough to ignore when they created Goku Jr and Vegeta Jr., who can arguably even call themselves Saiyans).
This has nohing to do with diluted blood lets have an example of skin colour, should be simpler to explain
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1. = generation of familes

(1) = the number represents the person

1. White Male (1) + Black Female (Dark Skin) (2) = Half-Caste Male (Light Skin) 1/2 white (3)

Black Male (4) + Black Female (5) = Black Female (Dark Skin) (6)

second set of family using the off-spring of the first

2. Black Female (Dark Skin) (6) + Black Female (Dark Skin) (7) = Black Female (Dark Skin) (8)

Half-Caste Male (Light Skin) (3) + Black Female (Dark Skin) (9) = Quarter-Caste Male (Bright Dark Skin) 1/4 white (10)

third set of family using the second set of familes, now the White Male's blood from the first set has been almost totally diluted

3. Quarter-Caste Male (Bright Dark Skin) (10) + Black Female (Dark Skin) (11) = A fifth White, Male Same darkness as the Black Female (Drak Skin) (12)

Black Male (Dark Skin) (13) + Black Female (Dark Skin) (14) = Black Male (Dark Skin) (15)

4. A fifth White Black Male (Dark Skin) (12) + Black Female (Dark Skin) (16) = (Light Skin) Male !!! (17)

this happens even though the original White Male's blood has ben diluted so much this is the same of what happend. Its just a mysterious genes of nature that has become a less gene than a dominant one but it won't stay as supressed gene in all cases. Even thought the black skin genes were dominant (Light Skin) Male !!! (17) Had light Skin even though he was just 1/6 white, This happened to Goku Goku Jr, Vegeta and Vegeta Jr's blood line. Just swap the Black Skin for Human genes and ignoring the Male or Female, change the White Male (1), to Goku or Vegeta. (17) would be Vegeta Jr or Goku Jr.



I know DBGT had tons of plot holes and all that but how Goku Jr and Vegeta Jr became super sayains with such a diluted blood line is still very possible, this happens to real life familes all the time. A white family with a child that looks half black and half white when its siblings are white and parents are white, all it means is later down the family tree there was a black person somewhere...

So Pan not become a ssj is not a plot hole by DBGT, its just science...
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Skin color is not a good example because skin color is a feature, and not an ability like Super Saiyan is. Pan's physical features could mimck the physical features of Saiyan females, but that doesn't mean that her abilities would also mimck them.

And Bra whose half Saiyan obviously will never become a Super Saiyan, and she has more Saiyan heritage then Pan does. This not only proves that Bra could've become a Super Saiyan as according to Toriyama's "genetics", but it also proves that Super Saiyan is not a genetic trait. Nowhere in the canon Super Saiyan legend is it stated that Super Saiyan is genetic.
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