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Old 07-24-2007   #1 (permalink)
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Default Health Recovery.

Beyond the aid of senzu beans and bacta tanks what would you say the rate of recovery is for the different races?
Such as saiyans, Nameks, humans, and changelings? Any info on this would help a lot.

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Old 07-24-2007   #2 (permalink)
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Default Re: Health Recovery.

Namekians can regenerate limbs, so I assume they would be the fastest healers by far. Piccolo survived having half of his upper torso blown off for a few minutes. A human would die in seconds, as would a Saiyan.
What are "Changelings"??
Saiyans probably heal a little bit faster than Humans, because they are more combat-competent and thus have probably suffered a lot more bodily harm throughout their history and lived to tell about it.
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Default Re: Health Recovery.

Changelings are a fan term for Furiza's race.

I agree with everything you've said Duo. Just to add, even though Changelings don't have "normal" regeneration abilities they can live through wounds that would kill saiyans and humans. Example Furiza surviving with SSj Goku's ki after being sliced in half.
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Default Re: Health Recovery.

I know what "Changelings" are. I just think the term is stupid and pointless, like "Mystic" being put with Gohan.
And yeah, you're right about Freeza being able to survive a lot more. Only Anakin Skywalker could survive HALF of that. Though, his dad died pretty easily with a shot through the chest.
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Default Re: Health Recovery.

It's all about how severe the blow is in addition to what race you are. For example a Saiyan would most likely survive a blast thru the Heart longer than a Human because of their superior powerlevels.
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Default Re: Health Recovery.

When Majin Vegeta and Goku had just stopped fighting and they decided to go figh Buu, Vegeta knocked Goku out with a single blow. But why did it take him so long to recover and regain conciousness because you would have imagined him to have recovered a bit quicker than he did.
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Default Re: Health Recovery.

Yes, however sensitive any one creature may be to the stylistic conventions and abrasions of the universe, Namekians can take quite a visceral battering and still regenerate their limbs, of course (though Freeza comments in the Nail bout that regeneration equals out stress on overall power). Saiyans can as well, though apparently not to the same extent - but it makes one contemplate how Vegeta survived being thrashed by Goku's immensely stronger Kaio-ken x4-fueled Kamehameha, Goku's Genki Dama (even if it wasn't at full capacity in terms of chi), Yajirobe's sword, Oozaru Gohan, and then he still lives. He was given many (pretty abrupt) freebies, as was Freeza.... surviving the Genki Dama, surviving long enough to talk to Son Goku having his intestines hanging out and having been sliced and diced by his own two Kienzans, having his own blast reflected back at him, and, well, yeah... an ample amount of times (freebies nonwithstanding).
Preserving and prolonging his life just seemed to be an admittion of defeat (but not without hinting to enemies far greater and imposing). But, given that Freeza is obviously an alien, I suppose it's reasonable... but in Vegeta's case it's rather distraughting when he should have been dealt away with way back when after losing the Gyarriku-Ho / Kaio-ken x4 beam struggle. It was stretching it a lot, but then again Toriyama-sensei was placating the demanding and obstinate fans in that context of the story.
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Vegeta may look human but he's an alien as well as Freeza is. Saiyan's bodies can take a lot more damage than what humans can. So, it's kinda hard to believe that Vegeta and Freeza could survive all that but they are past human limits.
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Default Re: Health Recovery.

It's all about the amount of ki/stamina you have. After Freeza is cut in half by his Kienzan, he begs for Goku to help him, or he'll die. Goku, being the good-hearted person he is gives Freeza some of his ki. Now, even though Freeza's intestines were hanging out, he had lost half a body and an arm and undoubtedly some blood from his topper portion of body, he could now talk clearly, use ki blasts and even fly a little. Heck, he even lived to tell the tale after Goku had to "kill him". Even though Freeza was an alien, he really wasn't all that different from Saiya-jins, or even humans who can use ki properly, ultimately.
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I'm just saying that an alien body may have a greater chance of living than a humans' body. [example: Freeza's ability to survive anywhere]
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Default Re: Health Recovery.

M'kay, but throughout the series how long does it take to naturally heal for the saiyajins or humans? (I don't know if it's actually been shown.) I know that the Namekians can regenerate arms so I'd assume that they can go a lot faster.
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That's probably why no one here has given you a direct answer. It's because it's never really shown. It's all opinion and theory I guess.
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M'kay, but throughout the series how long does it take to naturally heal for the saiyajins or humans? (I don't know if it's actually been shown.) I know that the Namekians can regenerate arms so I'd assume that they can go a lot faster.
After getting his ribs broken and his chin chipped and his balls smashed by a giant ape, Goku was in the hospital for...I believe it was 6 days...? The doctor said that he still wasn't healed and with a senzu, he completely revocered.

It was about a year in between the time Goku defeated Frieza and Trunks came to the past. How long it took King Kold to find his son is unkown, but it probably didn't take long (Otherwise, Frieza would die!). This is speculation on my part, but I'd say it took the tyrant half a year to recover and half a year to get his body primed for battle (Mecha Frieza DID state that he "powered up", meaning "trained", since his encounter on Namek-Sei).

In order of recover time, I'd place the four known races at: Humans<<<Saiyajins</=Kolds (New term)<<<<<<Nameku-jins. The Supreme Kaioshin lasted quite a while after being smashed by Buu, and he still had enough strength to try and find Gohan. Buu wasn't playing around either.
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After getting his ribs broken and his chin chipped and his balls smashed by a giant ape, Goku was in the hospital for...I believe it was 6 days...? The doctor said that he still wasn't healed and with a senzu, he completely revocered.
10.5 days.

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It was about a year in between the time Goku defeated Frieza and Trunks came to the past.
One year and 260 days.

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In order of recover time, I'd place the four known races at: Humans<<<Saiyajins</=Kolds (New term)<<<<<<Nameku-jins. The Supreme Kaioshin lasted quite a while after being smashed by Buu, and he still had enough strength to try and find Gohan. Buu wasn't playing around either.
Although I agree Boo wasn't simply going for the kill against Kaio-shin, he wasn't giving a lot of effort either, because had he punched Kaio-shin at at least half of full power, he would have kill him. Gohan stated Majin Boo's base (when he first came out of the shell) wasn't all that Kaio-shin chalked it up to be, and that if Gohan did reach his full power (SSj2), he might stand a chance against Boo. But after Boo's first power up...all thought Gohan had of winning went down the drain. Kaio-shin was shocked at the Saiya-jin's power, so there'd be no way he could take an attack of any kind from someone stronger than a SSj2 Gohan.
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