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Since there are so much polemic with the latest power levels, i have decided to make a list from the level which we have some references
Beggining: goku- 20 goku oozaru- 200 goku without tail- 17 krllin- 13 yancha- 15 21 budokai: goku- 85 goku with tail- 100 master kame- 105 master kame buff kamhame- 350 krillin- 75 namu- 83 yancha. 57 bacteria- 12 fan fan- 11 c8- 110 tao pai pai- 125 goku after karin training- 145 karin- 140 grandpa gohan- 143 22 budokai goku- 180 tien- 180 master kame- 155 krillin- 145 yancha- 139 chaotz- 124 crane master- 120 tamborine- 160 cymbal- 150 yakirobe- 175 piccolo old- 201 piccolo young- 255 drum- 190 goku after holy water- 260 23 budokai: tao pai pai- 190 tao pai pai dondompa- 210 chi chi- 75 tien- 235 krillin- 196 yancha- 167 kamisama- 295 (265 in the weak body) goku w/ wheight clothes- 275 goku fullpower- 330 goku's kamehame- 825 piccolo w/ heavy clothes- 270 piccolo fullpower- 320 piccolo's super ki attack- 400 piccolo's super ki attack at max- 700 Sayan arrive raditz- 1220 goku- 334 goku full- 416 piccolo- 322 piccolo full- 416 goku kamehame- 1040 piccolo's blast- 1330 piccolo's blast second try- 1440 gohan- 1 gohan stress- 710 gohan enraged- 1307 raditz hurt from gohan's attack- 750 krillin- 206 master kame- 139 yancha- 177 tien- 250 piccolo after the battle with raditz- 329 1 YEAR LATER piccolo- 1220 to 2400 tien- 1830 krillin- 1083 to 1770 krillin's blast- 2400 krillin's divided blast- 1900 yancha- 1480 chaotz- 610 gohan- 981 to 2800 saibamen- 1220 saibamen "last effort"- 2000 tien chi chung blast- 2500 chaotz "last effort"- 1700 nappa- 4000 goku- 5000 goku up- 8100 nappa calm- 7500 goku kaioken- 16200 vegeta- 16300 vegeta max- 18000 goku kaikoen3x- 24300 goku kaioken3x + kamehame- 36000 vegeta galick gun- 36000 goku kaioken4x- 45 000 vegeta hurt- 10 000 vegeta after power ball- 9 000 vegeta oozaru- 90 000 goku with genkki ball- 200 000 remaining genki ball- 10 000 gohan anger- 3 500 gohan injured- 375 krillin injured- 200 vegeta very hurt, after genki ball- 900 yajirobe- 350 yajirobe hurt- 75 oozaru gohan- 3 750 Namek goku after zenkai- 14 000 gohan surpress- 1500 (max was about 2750) krillni surpress- 1500 (max about 2250) freeza's hencheman- 700 vegeta- 24 000 cui- 18 000 namek soldiers surpress- 1000 freeza soldiers- 1500 namek soldiers up- 3000 dodoria- 20 000 gohan anger- 13 000 krillin's kick- 5 500 vegeta- 24 000 dodoria- 20 000 vegeta- 24 000 zarbon- 22 000 zarbon monster- 30 000 krillin- 13 000 vegeta- 32 000 zarbon- 22 000 zarbon monster- 30 000 vegeta- 35 000 vegeta's blast- 42 000 krillin- 15 000 gohan- 18 000 reencom- 45 000 jesse- 45 000 burta- 45 000 goku- 5 000 goku max (used in bursts)- 90 000 capt ginew holding back- 65 000 capt ginew max- 120 000 capt ginew blast- 130 000 goku with kaioken2x- 180 000 vegeta after be heal- 175 000 nail- 42 000 freeza- 250 000 ginew in goku's body- 23 000 krillin- 25 000 gohan- 32 000 goku in ginew's body- 10 000 vegeta against jesse and ginew- 200 000 piccolo holding back and with heights- 50 000 piccolo fullpower- 100 000 nail dying- 10 vegeta "wake up"- 400 000 vegeta agaisnt freeza- 450 000 freeza against vegeta- 450 000 freeza's max- 530 000 krillin- 35 000 gohan- 50 000 Ok, now is the time i stop. Maybe later i decide to continue, but for now, it's better to stop here. |
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Ok, now, lately, some of my friends are boring me about freeza's saga, so, even if i STILL think that goku was using the kaioken10x all time against freeza, i had made a power level some time ago about what would happen IF goku was not using the kaioken10x all the time.
So, continuation: Freeza 2- 1 060 000 Gohan enraged- 950 000 Freeza 2 up- 1 200 000 Piccolo- 1 270 000 Freeza 2 max- 1 400 000 Piccolo max- 1 500 000 Freeza 3- 2 150 000 Krillin- 42 500 Gohan- 90 000 Gohan anger- 1 900 000 Piccolo “hurt”- 725 000 Gohan’s blast (after be deflected by freeza)- 700 000 Freeza 4- 4 000 000 Vegeta- 2 250 000 Vegeta max- 2 500 000 Goku- 3 500 000 Goku + kaioken10x- 35 000 000 Goku + kaioken20x- 70 000 000 Goku + kaioken20x + kamehame- 75 000 000 Goku’s genki ball- 85 000 000 Freeza 50%- 75 000 000 Freeza 70%- 105 000 000 Freeza 100%- 150 000 000 Ssj goku- 175 000 000 Freeza worn battle- «125 000 000 FREEZA’S RETURN Freeza 50%- 85 000 000 King cold- 90 000 000 Trunks- 55 000 000 Ssj trunks- 175 000 000 Ssj trunks with sword- 190 000 000 Goku- 65 000 000 Ssj goku- 200 000 000 Vegeta- 11 000 000 Piccolo- 10 000 000 Gohan- 750 000 Krillin- 200 000 Tien- 250 000 Yancha- 120 000 Chaotz- 15 000 CYBORG SAGA Goku- 100 000 000 Ssj goku- 300 000 000 Goku heart desease- 200 000 000 and droping C19- 145 000 000 C19 after be punch and absorb kamehame- 160 000 000 Vegeta- 100 000 000 Ssj vegeta- 300 000 000 C19 after absorb much of vegeta’s energy- 200 000 000 C19 very hurt, after lost his arms- 95 000 000 Ssj vegeta big bang- 275 000 000 Vegeta “tired”- 50 000 000 C20- 180 000 000 Trunks- 90 000 000 Ssj trunks- 270 000 000 Piccolo heavy and surpress- 2 500 000 C20 after absorb piccolo’s energy- 182 000 000 Piccolo fullpower- 240 000 000 Gohan- 30 000 000 Tien- 3 000 000 Krillin- 2 500 000 Yamcha- 1 000 000 C18 holding back- 325 000 000 C18 up- 400 000 000 Cell- 420 000 000 C17- 500 000 000 C16- 600 000 000 Piccolo + kami- 500 000 000 Cell+humans- 600 000 000 Semi cell- 1 000 000 000 Trunks- 330 000 000 Ssj trunks- 960 000 000 Ussj trunks- 1 500 000 000 Vegeta- 350 000 000 Ssj vegeta- 1 000 000 000 Ussj vegeta- 1 550 000 000 Semiperfect cell up- 1 200 000 000 Perfect cell- 1 600 000 000 Perfect cell up- 2 000 000 000 Vegeta’s final flash- 2 200 000 000 Ussj2 trunks inc- 1 900 000 000 Ussj2 trunks- 2 300 000 000 Gohan- 160 000 000 Ssj gohan- 480 000 000 Goku- 180 000 000 (when he found out the ussj and ussj2 levels) Ssj goku- 550 000 000 Ussj goku- 775 000 000 Ussj2 goku- 1 200 000 000 Goku- 1 250 000 000 50% ssj goku- 1 900 000 000 Ssj goku- 3 800 000 000 Gohan- 1 300 000 000 Ssj gohan- 4 000 000 000 CELL GAMES Ssj Goku warming- 1 900 000 000 Cell warming- 2 000 000 000 Ssj Goku- 3 800 000 000 Cell- 4 000 000 000 Ssj gohan- 4 000 000 000 Cell against gohan- 4 200 000 000 Vegeta- 800 000 000 Ssj vegeta- 2 400 000 000 Trunks- 770 000 000 Ssj turnks- 2 300 000 000 Piccolo- 1 800 000 000 Cell jr- 2 500 000 000 Ssj2 gohan- 12 000 000 000 Cell max- 6 000 000 000 Cell buff- 7 500 000 000 Ultra Cell- 11 000 000 000 Ssj2 gohan hurt- 6 000 000 000 Ssj2 gohan up- 9 000 000 000 Cell kamehame- 25 000 000 000 Gohan kamehame- 24 000 000 000 Gohan max- 30 000 000 000 Trunks- 800 000 000 Ssj trunks- 2 500 000 000 C17- 450 000 000 C18- 350 000 000 3 YEARS LATER Cell- 550 000 000 Trunks- 900 000 000 Ssj trunks- 2 700 000 000 BOO SAGA Gohan- 1 100 000 000 Ssj gohan- 3 300 000 000 Ssj2 gohan- 10 000 000 000 Trunks- 630 000 000 Ssj trunks- 1 900 000 000 Goten- 600 000 000 Ssj goten- 1 800 000 000 Piccolo heavy and surpress- 550 000 000 Piccolo- 2 200 000 000 Tien- 4 000 000 Krillin- 3 000 000 Yamcha- 1 250 000 C18- 500 000 000 Mr satan- 16 Videl- 60 Spopovitch- 400 Yamo- 400 Kibit- 250 000 000 Kaioshin- 600 000 000 Pui pui- 5 000 000 Gohan- 1 230 000 000 Ssj gohan- 3 700 000 000 Ssj2 gohan- 11 000 000 000 Dabura holding back- 4 000 000 000 Dabura fullpower- 11 000 000 000 Yakon- 1 300 000 000 Goku- 1 750 000 000 Ssj goku- 5 000 000 000 Ssj2 goku- 15 000 000 000 Vegeta- 1 600 000 000 Ssj vegeta- 4 400 000 000 Ssj2 vegeta- 13 000 000 000 Majin vegeta- 15 000 000 000 Fat boo- 21 000 000 000 Ssj3 goku- 23 000 000 000 Evil boo- 13 500 000 000 Good boo. 7 500 000 000 Super boo- 25 000 000 000 Gotenks- 3 100 000 000 Ssj gotenks- 6 500 000 000 Ssj3 gotenks- 27 500 000 000 Gohan- 1 750 000 000 Chou gohan- 30 000 000 000 Gotenks boo- 52 000 000 000 Gohan boo- 54 000 000 000 Piccolo boo- 25 500 000 000 Vegetto- 42 500 000 000 Ssj vegetto- 90 000 000 000 Kid boo- 33 000 000 000 Mr boo- 16 000 000 000 Ssj2 vegeta- 13 000 000 000 Alive Ssj3 goku- 35 000 000 000 Ssj3 goku fullpower- 40 000 000 000 Goku genki ball- 100 000 000 000 COOLER’S REVENGE Piccolo- 12 000 000 Goku- 65 000 000 Cooler (50%)- 75 000 000 Cooler transform- 190 000 000 Goku heal- 75 000 000 Goku kaioken- 150 000 000 Sssj goku – 225 000 000 RETURN OF COOLER Piccolo- 175 000 000 Cooler- 275 000 000 Goku- 85 000 000 Goku w/ kaioken- 170 000 000 Ssj goku- 255 000 000 Vegeta- 80 000 000 Ssj vegeta- 240 000 000 Gohan- 10 000 000 Krillin- 1 000 000 BROLLI Goku- 1 000 000 000 Ssj goku- 3 000 000 000 Gohan- 830 000 000 Ssj gohan- 2 500 000 000 Vegeta- 500 000 000 Ussj vegeta- 2 000 000 000 Trunks- 490 000 000 Ussj trunks- 1 900 000 000 Piccolo- 1 600 000 000 Brolli- 2 000 000 000 Fssj brolli- 4 000 000 000 Ssj brolli- 6 000 000 000 Lssj brolli- 9 000 000 000 Goku inc- 8 000 000 000 Goku full- 9 500 000 000 BROLLI’S RETURN Brolli- 2 000 000 000 Ssj brolli- 6 000 000 000 Lssj brolli- 9 000 000 000 Goten- 600 000 000 Ssj goten- 1 800 000 000 Trunks- 630 000 000 Ssj trunks- 1 900 000 000 Gohan- 1 100 000 000 Ssj gohan- 3 300 000 000 Goku- 1 750 000 000 Ssj goku- 5 000 000 000 Brolli’s blast- 20 000 000 000 Gohan and goten’s kamehame- 10 000 000 000 Gohan., goten and goku’s kamehame- 18 000 000 000 Ultimate kamehame- 30 000 000 000 BIO BROLLI Bio brolli- 2 500 000 000 Goten- 600 000 000 Ssj goten- 1 800 000 000 Trunks- 630 000 000 Ssj trunks- 1 900 000 000 C17- 600 000 000 Krillin- 3 000 000 REBORN OF THE FUSION Goku- 1 750 000 000 Pikon- 1 750 000 000 Pikkon without heights- 4 000 000 000 Ssj goku- 5 000 000 000 Ssj2 goku-15 000 000 000 Vegeta- 1 600 000 000 Ssj2 vegeta- 13 000 000 000 Ssj gotenks- 6 500 000 000 Chou gohan- 30 000 000 000 Janemba- 25 000 000 000 Ssj3 goku- 40 000 000 000 Jamemba red- 47 500 000 000 Gogeta- 45 000 000 000 Ssj gogeta- 100 000 000 000 BOJACK Bojack- 4 500 000 000 Bojack trans- 6 000 000 000 Gohan- 1 300 000 000 Ssj gohan- 4 000 000 000 Ssj2 gohan- 12 000 000 000 Vegeta- 800 000 000 000 Ssj vegeta- 2 400 000 000 Trunks- 770 000 000 000 Ssj trunks- 2 300 000 000 Piccolo- 1 800 000 000 Kogu- 825 000 000 Kogu transf- 1 900 000 000 Zangya- 2 500 000 000 Bido- 2 750 000 000 Bujin- 2 750 000 000 TREE OF MIGHT Goku- 30 000 Goku kaioken- 60 000 Goku kaioken10x- 300 000 Piccolo- 18 000 Turles- 35 000 Turles + sacred fruit- 400 000 Goku genki ball- 900 000 SUPER C13 C15- 250 000 000 C14- 250 000 000 C13- 300 000 000 Super c13- 600 000 000 Goku- 100 000 000 Ssj goku- 300 000 000 Ssj goku + spirit bomb- 1 000 000 000 Vegeta- 100 000 000 Ssj vegeta- 300 000 000 Trunks- 90 000 000 Ssj trunks- 270 000 000 Piccolo-240 000 000 Krillin- 1 000 000 Gohan- 15 000 000 MOVIE FROM FUTURE Gohan- 160 000 000 Ssj gohan- 480 000 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Ok, now, lately, some of my friends are boring me about freeza's saga, so, even if i STILL think that goku was using the kaioken10x all time against freeza, i had made a power level some time ago about what would happen IF goku was not using the kaioken10x all the time. So, continuation: Freeza 2- 1 060 000 Gohan enraged- 950 000 Freeza 2 up- 1 200 000 Piccolo- 1 270 000 Freeza 2 max- 1 400 000 Piccolo max- 1 500 000 Freeza 3- 2 150 000 Krillin- 42 500 Gohan- 90 000 Gohan anger- 1 900 000 Piccolo “hurt”- 725 000 Gohan’s blast (after be deflected by freeza)- 700 000 Freeza 4- 4 000 000 Vegeta- 2 200 000 Vegeta max- 2 400 000 Goku- 3 500 000 Goku + kaioken10x- 35 000 000 Goku + kaioken20x- 70 000 000 Goku + kaioken20x + kamehame- 75 000 000 Goku’s genki ball- 85 000 000 Freeza 50%- 75 000 000 Freeza 70%- 105 000 000 Freeza 100%- 150 000 000 Ssj goku- 175 000 000 Freeza worn battle- «125 000 000 FREEZA’S RETURN Freeza 50%- 85 000 000 King cold- 90 000 000 Trunks- 55 000 000 Ssj trunks- 175 000 000 Ssj trunks with sword- 190 000 000 Goku- 65 000 000 Ssj goku- 200 000 000 Vegeta- 11 000 000 Piccolo- 10 000 000 Gohan- 750 000 Krillin- 200 000 Tien- 250 000 Yancha- 120 000 Chaotz- 15 000 CYBORG SAGA Goku- 100 000 000 Ssj goku- 300 000 000 Goku heart desease- 200 000 000 and droping C19- 145 000 000 C19 after be punch and absorb kamehame- 160 000 000 Vegeta- 100 000 000 Ssj vegeta- 300 000 000 C19 after absorb much of vegeta’s energy- 200 000 000 C19 very hurt, after lost his arms- 95 000 000 Ssj vegeta big bang- 275 000 000 Vegeta “tired”- 50 000 000 C20- 180 000 000 Trunks- 90 000 000 Ssj trunks- 270 000 000 Piccolo heavy and surpress- 2 500 000 C20 after absorb piccolo’s energy- 182 000 000 Piccolo fullpower- 240 000 000 Gohan- 30 000 000 Tien- 3 000 000 Krillin- 2 500 000 Yamcha- 1 000 000 C18 holding back- 325 000 000 C18 up- 400 000 000 Cell- 420 000 000 C17- 500 000 000 C16- 600 000 000 Piccolo + kami- 500 000 000 Cell+humans- 600 000 000 Semi cell- 1 000 000 000 Trunks- 330 000 000 Ssj trunks- 960 000 000 Ussj trunks- 1 500 000 000 Vegeta- 350 000 000 Ssj vegeta- 1 000 000 000 Ussj vegeta- 1 550 000 000 Semiperfect cell up- 1 200 000 000 Perfect cell- 1 600 000 000 Perfect cell up- 2 000 000 000 Vegeta’s final flash- 2 200 000 000 Ussj2 trunks inc- 1 900 000 000 Ussj2 trunks- 2 300 000 000 Gohan- 160 000 000 Ssj gohan- 480 000 000 Goku- 180 000 000 (when he found out the ussj and ussj2 levels) Ssj goku- 550 000 000 Ussj goku- 775 000 000 Ussj2 goku- 1 200 000 000 Goku- 1 250 000 000 50% ssj goku- 1 900 000 000 Ssj goku- 3 800 000 000 Gohan- 1 300 000 000 Ssj gohan- 4 000 000 000 CELL GAMES Ssj Goku warming- 1 900 000 000 Cell warming- 2 000 000 000 Ssj Goku- 3 800 000 000 Cell- 4 000 000 000 Ssj gohan- 4 000 000 000 Cell against gohan- 4 200 000 000 Vegeta- 800 000 000 Ssj vegeta- 2 400 000 000 Trunks- 770 000 000 Ssj turnks- 2 300 000 000 Piccolo- 1 800 000 000 Cell jr- 2 500 000 000 Ssj2 gohan- 12 000 000 000 Cell max- 6 000 000 000 Cell buff- 7 500 000 000 Ultra Cell- 11 000 000 000 Ssj2 gohan hurt- 6 000 000 000 Ssj2 gohan up- 9 000 000 000 Cell kamehame- 25 000 000 000 Gohan kamehame- 24 000 000 000 Gohan max- 30 000 000 000 Trunks- 800 000 000 Ssj trunks- 2 500 000 000 C17- 500 000 000 C18- 400 000 000 3 YEARS LATER Cell- 420 000 000 Trunks- 900 000 000 Ssj trunks- 2 700 000 000 BOO SAGA Gohan- 1 100 000 000 Ssj gohan- 3 300 000 000 Ssj2 gohan- 10 000 000 000 Trunks- 630 000 000 Ssj trunks- 1 900 000 000 Goten- 600 000 000 Ssj goten- 1 800 000 000 Piccolo heavy and surpress- 550 000 000 Piccolo- 2 200 000 000 Tien- 4 000 000 Krillin- 3 000 000 Yamcha- 1 250 000 C18- 600 000 000 Mr satan- 16 Videl- 60 Spopovitch- 400 Yamo- 400 Kibit- 250 000 000 Kaioshin- 600 000 000 Pui pui- 5 000 000 Gohan- 1 230 000 000 Ssj gohan- 3 700 000 000 Ssj2 gohan- 11 000 000 000 Dabura holding back- 4 000 000 000 Dabura fullpower- 11 000 000 000 Yakon- 1 300 000 000 Goku- 1 750 000 000 Ssj goku- 5 000 000 000 Ssj2 goku- 15 000 000 000 Vegeta- 1 600 000 000 Ssj vegeta- 4 400 000 000 Ssj2 vegeta- 13 000 000 000 Majin vegeta- 15 000 000 000 Fat boo- 21 000 000 000 Ssj3 goku- 23 000 000 000 Evil boo- 13 500 000 000 Good boo. 7 500 000 000 Super boo- 25 000 000 000 Gotenks- 3 100 000 000 Ssj gotenks- 6 500 000 000 Ssj3 gotenks- 27 500 000 000 Gohan- 1 750 000 000 Chou gohan- 30 000 000 000 Gotenks boo- 52 000 000 000 Gohan boo- 54 000 000 000 Piccolo boo- 20 500 000 000 Vegetto- 42 500 000 000 Ssj vegetto- 90 000 000 000 Kid boo- 33 000 000 000 Mr boo- 16 000 000 000 Ssj2 vegeta- 13 000 000 000 Alive Ssj3 goku- 35 000 000 000 Ssj3 goku fullpower- 40 000 000 000 Goku genki ball- 100 000 000 000 COOLER’S REVENGE Piccolo- 12 000 000 Goku- 65 000 000 Cooler (50%)- 75 000 000 Cooler transform- 190 000 000 Goku heal- 75 000 000 Goku kaioken- 150 000 000 Sssj goku – 225 000 000 RETURN OF COOLER Piccolo- 125 000 000 Cooler- 275 000 000 Goku- 85 000 000 Goku w/ kaioken- 170 000 000 Ssj goku- 255 000 000 Vegeta- 80 000 000 Ssj vegeta- 240 000 000 Gohan- 10 000 000 Krillin- 1 000 000 BROLLI Goku- 1 000 000 000 Ssj goku- 3 000 000 000 Gohan- 830 000 000 Ssj gohan- 2 500 000 000 Vegeta- 500 000 000 Ussj vegeta- 2 000 000 000 Trunks- 490 000 000 Ussj trunks- 1 900 000 000 Piccolo- 1 600 000 000 Brolli- 2 000 000 000 Fssj brolli- 4 000 000 000 Ssj brolli- 6 000 000 000 Lssj brolli- 9 000 000 000 Goku inc- 8 000 000 000 Goku full- 9 500 000 000 BROLLI’S RETURN Brolli- 2 000 000 000 Ssj brolli- 6 000 000 000 Lssj brolli- 9 000 000 000 Goten- 600 000 000 Ssj goten- 1 800 000 000 Trunks- 630 000 000 Ssj trunks- 1 900 000 000 Gohan- 1 100 000 000 Ssj gohan- 3 300 000 000 Goku- 1 750 000 000 Ssj goku- 5 000 000 000 Brolli’s blast- 20 000 000 000 Gohan and goten’s kamehame- 10 000 000 000 Gohan., goten and goku’s kamehame- 18 000 000 000 Ultimate kamehame- 30 000 000 000 BIO BROLLI Bio brolli- 2 500 000 000 Goten- 600 000 000 Ssj goten- 1 800 000 000 Trunks- 630 000 000 Ssj trunks- 1 900 000 000 C17- 600 000 000 Krillin- 9 000 000 REBORN OF THE FUSION Goku- 1 750 000 000 Pikon- 1 750 000 000 Pikkon without heights- 4 000 000 000 Ssj goku- 5 000 000 000 Ssj2 goku-15 000 000 000 Vegeta- 1 600 000 000 Ssj2 vegeta- 13 000 000 000 Ssj gotenks- 6 500 000 000 Chou gohan- 30 000 000 000 Janemba- 25 000 000 000 Ssj3 goku- 40 000 000 000 Jamemba red- 45 000 000 000 Gogeta- 42 500 000 000 Ssj gogeta- 100 000 000 000 BOJACK Bojack- 4 500 000 000 Bojack trans- 6 000 000 000 Gohan- 1 300 000 000 Ssj gohan- 4 000 000 000 Ssj2 gohan- 12 000 000 000 Vegeta- 800 000 000 000 Ssj vegeta- 2 400 000 000 Trunks- 770 000 000 000 Ssj trunks- 2 300 000 000 Piccolo- 1 800 000 000 Kogu- 825 000 000 Kogu transf- 1 900 000 000 Zangya- 2 500 000 000 Bido- 2 750 000 000 Bujin- 2 750 000 000 TREE OF MIGHT Goku- 30 000 Goku kaioken- 60 000 Goku kaioken10x- 300 000 Piccolo- 18 000 Turles- 35 000 Turles + sacred fruit- 400 000 Goku genki ball- 600 000 SUPER C13 C15- 250 000 000 C14- 250 000 000 C13- 300 000 000 Super c13- 600 000 000 Goku- 100 000 000 Ssj goku- 300 000 000 Ssj goku + spirit bomb- 900 000 000 Vegeta- 100 000 000 Ssj vegeta- 300 000 000 Trunks- 90 000 000 Ssj trunks- 270 000 000 Piccolo-240 000 000 Krillin- 1 000 000 Gohan- 15 000 000 MOVIE FROM FUTURE Gohan- 160 000 000 Ssj gohan- 480 000 000 C17- 450 000 000 C18- 350 000 000 Trunks- 45 000 000 Ssj trunks- 140 000 000 Trunks- 55 000 000 Ssj trunks- 175 000 000 Seriously, this list brought a tear to my eye. This could possibly go up as the best thing you've ever written. While I feel a few of the amounts are a slight sliver too high, this is really well done. Was this just a rough estimate you did or did you watch all of the films and read all the manga to get the exact amounts? Again, spot on. If I didn't know any better I'd pin this. |
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Yes, it's a certain amelioration over your last list, Ixidor, but two scruples:
1.) Goku should be closer to Freeza than that - their initial fight was *totally* stalemate. A ~1.14x diffence would have given Freeza a very palpable advantage. 2.) SSj Goku completely 0wned Cooler in his 5th Form around the clock in Movie 5.... he should be a lot stronger than that. Otherwise, not a woeful list. There are a few other things I'd change, but that would just be nitpicking. Non-the-less, it's roughly accurate. 8/10.
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Biggest problem I have with this is how strong you put Chibi Buu in comparison to the others. You're reasoning behind it is still extremely flawed when compared to the stated facts of the manga. It'd probably be better off for you to just remove that part from the list.
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Biggest problem I have with this is how strong you put Chibi Buu in comparison to the others. You're reasoning behind it is still extremely flawed when compared to the stated facts of the manga. It'd probably be better off for you to just remove that part from the list. One step at a time my friend, just like rehab.  I'm just glad half of my points in the debate threads were heard even the slightest bit. There are still plenty of people who falsely think Chibi Boo is that darn strong, but over time maybe this site will help to change this perspective. Let's just see if Viz properly translates this last volume like it has before... |
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QUOTE(LegendarySSJ7 @ Apr 25 2006, 04:24 AM)
Yes, it's a certain amelioration over your last list, Ixidor, but two scruples: 1.) Goku should be closer to Freeza than that - their initial fight was *totally* stalemate. A ~1.14x diffence would have given Freeza a very palpable advantage. 2.) SSj Goku completely 0wned Cooler in his 5th Form around the clock in Movie 5.... he should be a lot stronger than that. Otherwise, not a woeful list. There are a few other things I'd change, but that would just be nitpicking. Non-the-less, it's roughly accurate. 8/10. [snapback]639208[/snapback] 1) i think a 1.15x advantage to goku was a good one, since freeza, with all that punches, not even hurt goku. If they were to close, even if goku was stronger, so many hits would trash a lot goku 2) I put goku with almost 1,20 advantage. I think this is a good adnvantage, since he was almost killed by cooler's death ball. By the way, if you saw, i pu freeza fullpower at 150 000 000. So, if goku had a 1x2 difference, he would had 180 000 000 agaisnt him, what is a even bigger difference. So, with this, and the fact that goku almost got killed by a cooler's death ball, then i think it is a good advantage (and of course, goku couldn't be 2 times stronger tehn cooler or something like this, because in this case, he would be, what, 3 times stronger when he fought c19 then when he fought freeza? I think it's too mcuh of a rising.) Nothing told us how strong or weak was ssj gotenks, in fact, he didn't do anything special, so his ssj level should be stated in relationship with his ssj3 level... |
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Ixidor, I'm still kind of befuddled as to what you mean. Freeza and Goku should be equal, there shouldn't be anything nigh a 1.15x difference in their initial fight (where Goku does battle in his base level and Freeza does battle using a small fraction of his true power).
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Ixidor, Mirai no Cell stated himself that he was stronger than both Mirai no #17 and #18, so you might wanna change that... 600,000,000 is a good power level to put him at, adhering to the rest of your list, in context, IMO.
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From kame to ginew
About piccolo boo: well. actually, you are right, i simply wanted to put 25 500 000 000 and put 20 500 000 000 instead, lol
Well, about cell, the problem is: if this cell had the same power as the one that go back to the past, who he was stronger then the cyborgs? |
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