Future And Past Gohan

DeathByKnife · 04-03-2006

I was wondering was the future Gohan a Full powered super sayin as well i mean if it was that many years then wouldnt that have meant Gohan would have been a super sayin for a long long time like past Gohan was in the hyper bolic time chamber?

**LegendarySSJ7** · 04-03-2006

No, he certainly wasn't, he was just a mere Super Saiyan. He never even considered surmounting the 1rst Grade Super Saiyan level a possibility, nor did Mirai no Trunks, IIRC, until it was promulgated by Vegeta, of course.

SylentEcho · 04-03-2006

Future gohab in the trunks special right?......yeah

about Gohan being fully powered up....no one knows really how and when he attained SSJ......he may have trained in the time chamber with someone else, cos Goku was dead...or maybe he never trained there at all.....I think he was not totally powered up and I think he didnt master SSJ like he did with his dad in the time chamber (kid gohan, other timeline).....if so he would have defeated the androids......

**LegendarySSJ7** · 04-03-2006

I doubt Mirai no Gohan even knew about the Room of Spirit and Time... the point is though, he was probably a Super Saiya-jin... had he reached even a 2nd grade level of the Super Saiya-jin, he'd rive the Mirai Androids apart. That's a no brainer, obviously.

The Chibi Kiriyama · 04-03-2006

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I was wondering was the future Gohan a Full powered super sayin as well i mean if it was that many years then wouldnt that have meant Gohan would have been a super sayin for a long long time like past Gohan was in the hyper bolic time chamber?

Let me put this in perspective: Future Gohan at Super Saiyan was absolutely no match for No. 17 and 18. Why is this relevant, you ask? It's important to consider since mastering the Super Saiyan state means one does not need to power down (as he was seen in the movie and in the manga in his normal state) and receives a huge power bonus when powering up. Gohan exhibits none of this when he fights the cyborgs, and to throw the idea out of the ballpark take my example to thought: if he mastered the Super Saiyan level, why was he killed by the cyborgs even at his full power? This proves that Gohan wasn't even aware that the SS state could be mastered. If he did the fight would have been much more even and the cyborgs would have feared him more than they did.

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I doubt Mirai no Gohan even knew about the Room of Spirit and Time... point is though, he was probably a Super Saiya-jin... had he reached even a 2nd grade level of the Super Saiya-jin, he'd rive the Mirai Androids apart. That's a no brainer, obviously.

Astute as usual. The RoSaT wasn't known to anyone who wasn't already dead in the original timeline. Goku was dead, Kami disappeared with Piccolo and Mr. Popo was nowhere to be seen. Given the destructive capacities of the two cyborgs I doubt he would have taken a break to visit Kami-sama's palace, and even if he did it would take quite a bit of searching to do so. Furthermore, if he would have trained there he would have been strong enough to defeat the cyborgs. Remember- Gohan went in the RoSaT in the altered timeline with an incredibly low power level and came out stronger or equal to Goku. Even without a partner Gohan would have gotten much stronger than No. 17 and 18 just by surviving the harsh conditions inside.

ixidor · 04-03-2006

Well, i think this timeline just have a problem: gohan, so old, even without training in a time chamber, even without master his ssj level, well, 20 years after the cyborgs arriving, he should be, if he trained hard, strong enough to kill them.

About the time chamber, of course he didn't enter there, if he did it, he would clean the cyborgs from the face of the planet, something like trunks did when he return to the future (funny expression, return to the future, lol).

Legend · 04-03-2006

Future Gohan was pretty strong.. but he didn't have the Mystic saiyan power did he?

**LegendarySSJ7** · 04-03-2006

QUOTE(ixidor @ Apr 2 2006, 02:08 PM)
Well, i think this timeline just have a problem: gohan, so old, even without training in a time chamber, even without master his ssj level, well, 20 years after the cyborgs arriving, he should be, if he trained hard, strong enough to kill them.

About the time chamber, of course he didn't enter there, if he did it, he would clean the cyborgs from the face of the planet, something like trunks did when he return to the future (funny expression, return to the future, lol).

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Well, you'd have to consider that 13 years of Earth training is probably worth less than 1 year of training in the RoSaT. Not to mention a lot of time was expended running and hiding from the Cyborgs rather than just acerbly training 24/7. And the fact that Gohan was probably weaker than he was in the alternate Cell Saga upon transforming into a Super Saiya-jin in that particular timeline, so it makes sense that he's strong as he is 13 years later, even as an adult.QUOTE(Dark-Vegeta @ Apr 2 2006, 04:56 PM)
Future Gohan was pretty strong.. but he didn't have the Mystic saiyan power did he?

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Was that sarcasm? Of course he didn't.... and there's no reason to elaborate on why as that's written all over the walls

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The Chibi Kiriyama · 04-03-2006

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Future Gohan was pretty strong.. but he didn't have the Mystic saiyan power did he?

Most definitely not. That would require him to know the old Lord of Lords, which would require him to have broken the Zeta Sword, which would require him to have entered the Kaio-shin realm, which would have required him to have met Kibito and Kaio-shin, which would require Boo to be on the verge of awakening.

As displayed, it would require a lot.

DeathByKnife · 04-04-2006

Yes but what i mean is just because he is fully powered super sayin doesnt mean he has to be stronger cos he hasnt learnt moves under his father so he wouldnt be as powerful.

**Darkprince410** · 04-04-2006

QUOTE(DeathByKnife @ Apr 3 2006, 12:31 PM)
Yes but what i mean is just because he is fully powered super sayin doesnt mean he has to be stronger cos he hasnt learnt moves under his father so he wouldnt be as powerful.

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Even without Gokuu teaching him techniques, if Mirai Gohan were to have mastered his Super Saiya-jin form he would have been more than a match for both Jinzou-ningen of his time. The mastered Super Saiya-jin form has been shown on both confirmed cases of its existence to produce a level of power more than suitable enough to destroy the Jinzou-ningen without much any hassle at all.

.ssj2 Son Gohan · 04-04-2006

Gohan was infact weaker in the andriod saga in the future than in the past when he trained in the hyper bolic time chamber. thats because they didnt think about the time chamber because they didnt know about cell because they couldnt even handle the androids. all im saying is.....basicly the reason gohan was even able to go super sayajin at that time, was because his father died from that heart disease.....but he never actually had practice in the form therefore, he was much weaker in the future

.LegendaryBroli · 04-04-2006

Mirai Gohan was much weaker than Past Gohan if you think about it. Mirai Gohan only was ssj when he was killed by the mirai Andriods and past Gohan reached ssj2. So Past Gohan was stronger than Mirai Gohan.

The Speed Phantom · 04-05-2006

QUOTE(ssj2 Son Gohan @ Apr 3 2006, 09:40 PM)
Gohan was infact weaker in the andriod saga in the future than in the past when he trained in the hyper bolic time chamber. thats because they didnt think about the time chamber because they didnt know about cell because they couldnt even handle the androids. all im saying is.....basicly the reason gohan was even able to go super sayajin at that time, was because his father died from that heart disease.....but he never actually had practice in the form therefore, he was much weaker in the future

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It is never stated why, how, nor when Mirai Gohan first went Super Saiyajin. It isn't even stated as to how long he has had the SSJ form.

.gogeta the super fusion · 04-05-2006

Gohan didnt know about it. He had attain none of those super Upgrades like going ultra or Mastered SS. He was just a Regular SS and no match for the andriods.

04-03-2006	#1 (permalink)
DeathByKnife (13) Great Ape Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 290 Rep Power: 3	Future And Past Gohan I was wondering was the future Gohan a Full powered super sayin as well i mean if it was that many years then wouldnt that have meant Gohan would have been a super sayin for a long long time like past Gohan was in the hyper bolic time chamber? __________________ Time is a great teacher, pity all its students die.

04-03-2006	#2 (permalink)
LegendarySSJ7 Moderator Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: LA, CA, USA. Posts: 2,736 Rep Power: 48	Future And Past Gohan No, he certainly wasn't, he was just a mere Super Saiyan. He never even considered surmounting the 1rst Grade Super Saiyan level a possibility, nor did Mirai no Trunks, IIRC, until it was promulgated by Vegeta, of course. __________________

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SylentEcho (17) Super Saiyan Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Behind the mirror Posts: 775 Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 17	Future And Past Gohan Future gohab in the trunks special right?......yeah about Gohan being fully powered up....no one knows really how and when he attained SSJ......he may have trained in the time chamber with someone else, cos Goku was dead...or maybe he never trained there at all.....I think he was not totally powered up and I think he didnt master SSJ like he did with his dad in the time chamber (kid gohan, other timeline).....if so he would have defeated the androids...... __________________ Yes, it was I who started the entire "Farmer Kills Raditz" fad. Check it out.

04-03-2006	#4 (permalink)
LegendarySSJ7 Moderator Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: LA, CA, USA. Posts: 2,736 Rep Power: 48	Future And Past Gohan I doubt Mirai no Gohan even knew about the Room of Spirit and Time... the point is though, he was probably a Super Saiya-jin... had he reached even a 2nd grade level of the Super Saiya-jin, he'd rive the Mirai Androids apart. That's a no brainer, obviously. __________________

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The Chibi Kiriyama (20) Super Saiyan 2 Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Henderson, Nevada Posts: 1,299 Rep Power: 6	Future And Past Gohan QUOTE I was wondering was the future Gohan a Full powered super sayin as well i mean if it was that many years then wouldnt that have meant Gohan would have been a super sayin for a long long time like past Gohan was in the hyper bolic time chamber? Let me put this in perspective: Future Gohan at Super Saiyan was absolutely no match for No. 17 and 18. Why is this relevant, you ask? It's important to consider since mastering the Super Saiyan state means one does not need to power down (as he was seen in the movie and in the manga in his normal state) and receives a huge power bonus when powering up. Gohan exhibits none of this when he fights the cyborgs, and to throw the idea out of the ballpark take my example to thought: if he mastered the Super Saiyan level, why was he killed by the cyborgs even at his full power? This proves that Gohan wasn't even aware that the SS state could be mastered. If he did the fight would have been much more even and the cyborgs would have feared him more than they did. QUOTE I doubt Mirai no Gohan even knew about the Room of Spirit and Time... point is though, he was probably a Super Saiya-jin... had he reached even a 2nd grade level of the Super Saiya-jin, he'd rive the Mirai Androids apart. That's a no brainer, obviously. Astute as usual. The RoSaT wasn't known to anyone who wasn't already dead in the original timeline. Goku was dead, Kami disappeared with Piccolo and Mr. Popo was nowhere to be seen. Given the destructive capacities of the two cyborgs I doubt he would have taken a break to visit Kami-sama's palace, and even if he did it would take quite a bit of searching to do so. Furthermore, if he would have trained there he would have been strong enough to defeat the cyborgs. Remember- Gohan went in the RoSaT in the altered timeline with an incredibly low power level and came out stronger or equal to Goku. Even without a partner Gohan would have gotten much stronger than No. 17 and 18 just by surviving the harsh conditions inside.

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ixidor (19) Mastered Super Saiyan Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 1,158 Rep Power: 4	Future And Past Gohan Well, i think this timeline just have a problem: gohan, so old, even without training in a time chamber, even without master his ssj level, well, 20 years after the cyborgs arriving, he should be, if he trained hard, strong enough to kill them. About the time chamber, of course he didn't enter there, if he did it, he would clean the cyborgs from the face of the planet, something like trunks did when he return to the future (funny expression, return to the future, lol).

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Legend (20) Super Saiyan 2 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,325 Rep Power: 4	Future And Past Gohan Future Gohan was pretty strong.. but he didn't have the Mystic saiyan power did he? __________________ You gotta love Ashley & Kristal [cowboy]

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LegendarySSJ7 Moderator Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: LA, CA, USA. Posts: 2,736 Rep Power: 48	Future And Past Gohan QUOTE(ixidor @ Apr 2 2006, 02:08 PM) Well, i think this timeline just have a problem: gohan, so old, even without training in a time chamber, even without master his ssj level, well, 20 years after the cyborgs arriving, he should be, if he trained hard, strong enough to kill them. About the time chamber, of course he didn't enter there, if he did it, he would clean the cyborgs from the face of the planet, something like trunks did when he return to the future (funny expression, return to the future, lol). [snapback]618578[/snapback] Well, you'd have to consider that 13 years of Earth training is probably worth less than 1 year of training in the RoSaT. Not to mention a lot of time was expended running and hiding from the Cyborgs rather than just acerbly training 24/7. And the fact that Gohan was probably weaker than he was in the alternate Cell Saga upon transforming into a Super Saiya-jin in that particular timeline, so it makes sense that he's strong as he is 13 years later, even as an adult.QUOTE(Dark-Vegeta @ Apr 2 2006, 04:56 PM) Future Gohan was pretty strong.. but he didn't have the Mystic saiyan power did he? [snapback]618752[/snapback] Was that sarcasm? Of course he didn't.... and there's no reason to elaborate on why as that's written all over the walls . __________________

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The Chibi Kiriyama (20) Super Saiyan 2 Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Henderson, Nevada Posts: 1,299 Rep Power: 6	Future And Past Gohan QUOTE Future Gohan was pretty strong.. but he didn't have the Mystic saiyan power did he? Most definitely not. That would require him to know the old Lord of Lords, which would require him to have broken the Zeta Sword, which would require him to have entered the Kaio-shin realm, which would have required him to have met Kibito and Kaio-shin, which would require Boo to be on the verge of awakening. As displayed, it would require a lot.

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DeathByKnife (13) Great Ape Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 290 Rep Power: 3	Future And Past Gohan Yes but what i mean is just because he is fully powered super sayin doesnt mean he has to be stronger cos he hasnt learnt moves under his father so he wouldnt be as powerful. __________________ Time is a great teacher, pity all its students die.

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Darkprince410 Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ohio, United States Posts: 2,998 Rep Power: 52	Future And Past Gohan QUOTE(DeathByKnife @ Apr 3 2006, 12:31 PM) Yes but what i mean is just because he is fully powered super sayin doesnt mean he has to be stronger cos he hasnt learnt moves under his father so he wouldnt be as powerful. [snapback]619105[/snapback] Even without Gokuu teaching him techniques, if Mirai Gohan were to have mastered his Super Saiya-jin form he would have been more than a match for both Jinzou-ningen of his time. The mastered Super Saiya-jin form has been shown on both confirmed cases of its existence to produce a level of power more than suitable enough to destroy the Jinzou-ningen without much any hassle at all. __________________

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.ssj2 Son Gohan (2) Farmer w/Shotgun Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 10 Rep Power: 0	Future And Past Gohan Gohan was infact weaker in the andriod saga in the future than in the past when he trained in the hyper bolic time chamber. thats because they didnt think about the time chamber because they didnt know about cell because they couldnt even handle the androids. all im saying is.....basicly the reason gohan was even able to go super sayajin at that time, was because his father died from that heart disease.....but he never actually had practice in the form therefore, he was much weaker in the future

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.LegendaryBroli (18) Artificial Human Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 948 Rep Power: 4	Future And Past Gohan Mirai Gohan was much weaker than Past Gohan if you think about it. Mirai Gohan only was ssj when he was killed by the mirai Andriods and past Gohan reached ssj2. So Past Gohan was stronger than Mirai Gohan.

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The Speed Phantom (21) Majin Warrior Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 1,588 Rep Power: 5	Future And Past Gohan QUOTE(ssj2 Son Gohan @ Apr 3 2006, 09:40 PM) Gohan was infact weaker in the andriod saga in the future than in the past when he trained in the hyper bolic time chamber. thats because they didnt think about the time chamber because they didnt know about cell because they couldnt even handle the androids. all im saying is.....basicly the reason gohan was even able to go super sayajin at that time, was because his father died from that heart disease.....but he never actually had practice in the form therefore, he was much weaker in the future [snapback]619591[/snapback] It is never stated why, how, nor when Mirai Gohan first went Super Saiyajin. It isn't even stated as to how long he has had the SSJ form. __________________

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.gogeta the super fusion (24) Super Saiyan 4 Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 3,202 Rep Power: 8	Future And Past Gohan Gohan didnt know about it. He had attain none of those super Upgrades like going ultra or Mastered SS. He was just a Regular SS and no match for the andriods.