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Old 10-26-2005   #1 (permalink)
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I am going to make a pl list for DBZ/ DBZ movies/ DBGT.
And i would like people to try and help me with some common error's.

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1) Sp Cell vs SSJ2 Gohan -manga-
Sp Cell claim's that he's even stronger than SSJ2 Gohan, when he wen't into Sp state.
In the Japanese anime Gohan say's he have lost ½ his chi, but still are stronger than Cell.
*Now should Gohan really be 2x stronger than Sp Cell? I mean Cell was good enough to half Gohan's power in 1 shot.
How many time's do you think Gohan should be stronger than Sp. Cell?

2) In movie 13 SSj3 Gokou is stronger than Chou Gohan. Is Gokou stronger in movie 12 as well? And is SSj4 Gokou >> SSj3 moive Gokou.

3) correct me if i am wrong here:
Supa Bejito > Chou Boo-han > Boo-tenkusu > Chou Gohan (?) Buffed Boo > Boo-korro = SSJ3 Gotenkusu >= Supa Boo > SSJ Gotenkusu > Majin Boo > SSj3 Gokou = Chibi Boo > Aku Boo > Mr. Boo > FpSSJ2 Gokou = MSSJ2 Bejita > Gotenkusu > Chibi SSj2 Gohan > Sp. Cell = Majin Dabura > SSj2 Teen Gohan > LSSJ Burorri = P. Cell > Super 13
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Regarding Gohan and Cell - You have to consider the Manga version of SS2 Goku vs. SS2 Vegeta as well. They, although equal, inflicted serious damage upon one another in a very short amount of time. At that level of power, although equal, they could hurt eachother immensly in few blows.

This probably was the case with Cell and Gohan. They were on the same level of power and thus damage was exchanged very easily, if even for that one blow.

Also, Cell did not say he was stronger, he just said "It wouldn't work out so well for Gohan this time." or something like that.

Cell was not putting his all into the Kamehameha at any point. As soon as he planned to, Vegeta distracted him and Gohan unleashed his full power, which he had not truly lost. Until that point, however, Cell had a pretty big edge.

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SS3 Goku is not stronger than "Mystic" Gohan...Movie 13 is impossible because it is a huge plothole with many things regarding Chi levels. They actually made it look like Videl was stronger than Gohan. Explain that.
I wouldn't try with that movie...or any for that matter...for wisdoms sake.

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Dabra's strength in relation to Cell...it isn't equal to "SPC". Gotenks is probably stronger than Goku and Vegeta. There also is a possibility that Majin Vegeta and SS2 Goku are on the same level as SS2 Kid Gohan, as they are stated to be stronger than the Gohan of that timeline, not the Cell Game. SS3 Son Goku is more powerful than Chibi Boo, he simply chose to hold back so Vegeta could get a turn, not realizing that gathering his Chi for Full Power again would be impossible with a living body. The movie characters...why?

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Supa Bejito > Chou Boo-han > Boo-tenkusu > Chou Gohan (?) Buffed Boo > Boo-korro = SSJ3 Gotenkusu >= Supa Boo > SSJ Gotenkusu > Majin Boo > SSj3 Gokou = Chibi Boo > Aku Boo > Mr. Boo > FpSSJ2 Gokou = MSSJ2 Bejita > Gotenkusu > Chibi SSj2 Gohan > Sp. Cell = Majin Dabura > SSj2 Teen Gohan > LSSJ Burorri = P. Cell > Super 13


Aku Boo may be stronger than Chibi Boo, not the other way around. Goku was not a FPSSJ2. Dabura>>>SPCell. Cell>>Broly.
 
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Also, Cell did not say he was stronger, he just said "It wouldn't work out so well for Gohan this time." or something like that.


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Gohan admitted that he doesn't stand a chance against cell after he's weakened.
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Duo has the Viz translation.....don't argue with him!
 
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I know those aren't 100% accurate but how inaccurate are they then. Duo can you check the Viz translation and see if it says this?
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They can be very very inaccurate.
 
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Ok thanks for pointing that out. Hopefully Duo can check hid Viz version and see what they actually say.
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I was talking about what CELL said before he blasted Gohan in the arm.
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Oh ok my bad. So SSJ2 Gohan(full power)>Super Perfect Cell>SSJ2 Gohan (weakened)
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QUOTE(The_Prince 14 @ Oct 28 2005, 01:37 AM)
Oh ok my bad. So SSJ2 Gohan(full power)>Super Perfect Cell>SSJ2 Gohan (weakened)
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Dude SP. Serru halfed Gohans power in just blast.
LSj Burrori died of a fatherson kamehameha
Just like SP.Serru did...
I would put him equal to P. Serru.
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In a blast that Gohan did not try to block.....

Goku did not give energy to Gohan in the blast.

Broly sucks.
 
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Gohan was SS againts LSS Broly. Gohan, Goten and Goku participated in that Tripple Kamehameha
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QUOTE(gogeta the super fusion @ Oct 28 2005, 08:11 PM)
Gohan was SS againts LSS Broly. Gohan, Goten and Goku participated in that Tripple Kamehameha
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Gokuu was no more a part of that Kamehameha than he was when he was alongside Ssj2 Gohan during the Kamehameha duel against Zenkai Kazentai Seru. He couldn't possibly be there in a physical sense, no matter how it looked.
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I love how the lines for Goku when he's floating down to Gohan and Goten are almost, literally, the opposite of the Japanese lines.

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