Duo

Some people say GT Goku, some people say Mystic Gohan.

Take your pick, and debate with Fury.

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.Cruelty

*Thinks real hard* I can't remember if SSJ4 Is better than Mystic... Well SSJ4 is from GT so, heh, we all know Goku is stongest in GT thanks to those dumb bafoons. Speaking commercial, Goku, speaking without the bull-hockey Gohan. I'll pick one, so I pick Gohan.

Star Platinum

gohan was stated to be far stronger than goku would ever be even if goku was super sayain 4 gohans max potentail is far greaters than gokus even as SSj4

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.Ultimate_Saiyan_Trunks

Goku is better, I don't care what anyone says, infact as far as the Anime goes, SSJ3 Goku is stronger tha Mystic Gohan.

The Speed Phantom

I'm going with Gohan because SSJ4 Goku is non-canon.

Anyway, here's how I feel about this. If SSJ4 Goku existed in DBZ, Chou Gohan would still be stronger than him. The reason is because Goku's SSJ4 transformation (logically) would not make him stronger than Super Buu 1. Think about it. SSJ3 Goku is hella weaker than Super Buu 1. So if there was a SSJ4 Goku during that time, he'd probably tie with Super Buu (who knows, maybe he might be just a tad stronger). Chou Gohan, on the other hand, can easily beat on Super Buu without the exertion of ki. However, if you look at it from the GT perspective, SSJ4 Goku would kick the crap out of Chou Gohan. In GT, the SSJ4 transformation gave Goku a damn near ridicuouls amount of power that would not have happened if the transformation took place in the much more sensible DBZ. All in all, this really depends on which series you base if off of.

In terms of DBZ, Chou Gohan >> SSJ4 Goku.

In terms of DBGT, SSJ4 Goku >> Chou Gohan.

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.gogeta the super fusion

I'd say mystic Gohan cause He beated super buu without ki, Ss4 goku needed ki to beat Bebie and super Buu >>Bebi. Mystic gohan is just stronger and beter looking.

.Ultimate_Saiyan_Trunks

How can you possible think Super Buu>>>>baby?

.Majin_Buu

QUOTE(Mirai Trunks05 @ Feb 17 2005, 11:22 PM)
I'm going with Gohan because SSJ4 Goku is non-canon.



Please note that this is the anime forum. Mystic would pwn SSJ4 Goku.

Duo

In the Anime, Goku states that Super Buu would beat both him and Vegeta.

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Murphy

id say goku and gogeta the super fusion is right bebi is weaker than super buu when he is in his normal form but not when he is in vegetas body

The Speed Phantom

QUOTE(Ultimate_Saiyan_Trunks @ Feb 17 2005, 11:24 PM)
But this is the Anime section, in the Anime SSJ3 Goku is stronger than Mystic.



Even in the anime, Chou Gohan kills SSJ3 Goku. In the anime, Goku states that he and Vegeta would surely die against Super Buu. In the anime, Chou Gohan kicks the crap out of Super Buu 1 without using ki.

In the anime, Chou Gohan >> SSJ3 Goku. Sorry, Goku loses.

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Crispy Bacon

Let's back to the real debate Goku with form 4 or Gohan with his potential pushed beyond their normal limits. I vote for Gohan because he is a hybrid and hybrids are naturally stronger. Gohan also didn't just have his full potential unleashed but pushed beyond their natural limits. Why would Gohan not have access to his full power, I believe TOEI saw him as being to strong so instead he became a SSJ once again.

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.gogeta the super fusion

Super Baby vegeta is an Ss2. super Buu is stronger than a ss2. Ss3 Goku lost to him because goku can't gather much energy as a Child. i bet even ss3 aldult Goku can beat baby. Hybrids are stronger than Regular saiyans if they get pushed to their limits. so gohan was beyond his limits and trashed Super Buyu. I say mystic Gohan>>>Goku , In any form.

.Ultimate_Saiyan_Trunks

Wait, is this argument about the Anime or Manga, cause in the Anime, SSJ3 Goku>Mystic........since Goku can beat Kid Buu & Kid Buu is stated to be the strongest a few times.

Duo

The anime is well and good, but if it contradicts the Manga, it loses legitimacy and is thus untrue.

In the Anime, there is extra footage of Gohan killing the Cell Jr's that is not the Manga. IT does not contradict the MAnga, and thus can be taken as true and legitimate.

But, in the Anime, Goku implies that Kid Buu is the most powerful, but that is a false contradiction and as such is null and void.

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