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Arrival of Raditz
----- Raditz: 1,200 Farmer: 5 Piccolo (Weighted clothing): 322 Piccolo (Without weighted clothing): 408 Piccolo (Makankôsappô): 1,330 Goku (Weighted clothing): 334 Goku (Without weighted clothing): 416 Goku (Kamehameha): 924 + Gohan: 1 Gohan (Angry): 710 Gohan (Attacking Raditz): 1,307 Kame-Sen'nin: 139 Kuririn: 206 Tenshinhan: 250 Yamcha: 177 Piccolo (After the battle): 329 Z Warriors vs. Saibamen & Nappa ----- Saibamen: 1,200 each Nappa: 6,000 Piccolo (Pre-battle): 1,220 Piccolo (Maximum power): 2,500 Kuririn (Pre-battle): 1,083 Kuririn (Maximum power): 1,500 Gohan (Pre-battle): 981 Gohan (Maximum power): 1,175 Gohan (Masenkô): 2,800 Tenshinhan: 1,800 Yamcha: 1,350 Chaozu: 1,250 Goku vs. Nappa ----- Goku (Suppressed): 5,000 Goku (Powered up): 8,000 Nappa: 6,000 Nappa (Powered up): 8,000 Goku (Kaiô-Ken x2): 16,000 Goku vs. Vegeta ----- Goku: 8,000 Goku (Kaiô-Ken x2): 16,000 Goku (Kaiô-Ken x3): 24,000 Vegeta: 18,000 Goku (Kaiô-Ken x3-Kamehameha): 32,000 Vegeta (Gyarikku Hô): 32,000 Goku (Kaiô-Ken x4-Kamehameha): 40,000 Vegeta (Weakened): 12,000 Vegeta (Oozaru): 120,000 Kuririn and Gohan vs. Vegeta ----- Gohan (Senzu Bean): 1,500 Gohan (Weakened): 700 Gohan (Oozaru): 7,000 Kuririn: 1,500 Vegeta: 12,000 Kuririn (Genki Dama): 9,000 Vegeta (Weakened): 3,000 Arrival on Namek ----- Gohan: 1,500 Kuririn: 1,500 Vegeta vs. Kiwi ----- Vegeta: 24,000 Kiwi: 18,000 The 3 Namekian Warriors ----- Namek warriors (Suppressed): 1,000 each Namek warriors: 3,000 each Freeza's henchmen: 1,850 each Dodoria: 21,000 Gohan (Enraged): 4,000 Kuririn: 1,500 Vegeta vs. Dodoria ----- Vegeta: 24,000 Dodoria: 21,000 Vegeta vs. Zarbon ----- Vegeta: 24,000 Zarbon: 22,000 Zarbon (Transformed): 30,000 Saichourou’s Power Awakening ----- Gohan: 5,000 Kuririn: 5,000 Rematch! Vegeta vs. Zarbon ----- Vegeta: 38,000 Zarbon: 22,000 Zarbon (Transformed): 30,000 Arrival of the Ginyu Force ----- Butta: 50,000 Jheese: 50,000 Recoom: 50,000 Guldo: 5,000 Gohan: 10,000 Kuririn: 10,000 Vegeta: 38,000 Goku’s Arrival on Namek ----- Goku (Suppressed): 5,000 Goku: 90,000 Butta: 50,000 Jheese: 50,000 Recoom: 50,000 Goku vs. Captain Ginyu ----- Goku: 90,000 Captain Ginyu: 120,000 Goku (Kaiô-Ken x2): 180,000 Captain Ginyu vs. Gohan, Kuririn, and Vegeta ----- Captain Ginyu (In Goku‘s body): 23,000 Gohan: 35,000 Kuririn: 27,500 Vegeta: 200,000 + Jheese: 50,000 Freeza vs. Nail ----- Freeza (Holding back): 175,000 Nail: 42,000 Freeza Transforms ----- Freeza: 530,000 Freeza (Form 2): 1,060,000 Piccolo: 1,300,000 Freeza (Form 3): 2,120,000 Gohan: 40,000 Gohan (Healed by Dende): 85,000 Gohan (Enraged): 1,800,000 Kuririn: 32,000 Vegeta: 500,000 Vegeta (Healed by Dende): 2,300,000 Freeza’s True Form ----- Freeza: 3,000,000 Vegeta: 2,300,000 Piccolo: 1,300,000 Gohan: 85,000 Kuririn: 32,000 Goku vs. Freeza ----- Goku: 300,000 Goku (Kaiô-Ken x10): 3,000,000 Freeza: 3,000,000 Goku (Kaiô-Ken x20): 6,000,000 Freeza 50%: 8,000,000 Freeza 70%: 11,200,000 Goku Super Saiyan: 15,000,000 Freeza 100%: 16,000,000 Freeza 100% (Strained): 12,000,000 Trunks the Story: The Lone Warrior ----- #17: 34,000,000 #18: 32,000,000 Gohan: 3,000,000 Gohan Super Saiyan: 13,000,000 Trunks: 100,000 Trunks Super Saiyan: 2,500,000 Trunks (3 years later): 800,000 Trunks Super Saiyan (3 years later): 13,500,000 Arrival of Trunks ----- Trunks (Suppressed): 5 Trunks: 1,000,000 Trunks Super Saiyan: 15,000,000 Freeza (Suppressed): 8,500,000 Freeza (Posible maximum): 17,000,000 King Cold: 10,000,000 Goku Super Saiyan: 18,500,000 Goku vs. #19 ----- Goku: 2,500,000 Goku Super Saiyan: 24,000,000 #19: 12,000,000 Vegeta vs. #19 ----- Vegeta: 6,500,000 Vegeta Super Saiyan: 25,000,000 #19 (With Goku's energy): 15,000,000 #20 vs. Piccolo ----- #20: 16,000,000 Piccolo: 20,000,000 Z warriors vs. #17 and #18 ----- Vegeta Super Saiyan: 25,000,000 #18 (Holding back): 25,000,000 #18: 38,000,000 #17: 40,000,000 Trunks: 1,500,000 Trunks Super Saiyan: 20,000,000 Piccolo: 20,000,000 Tenshinhan: 65,000 The Super Namekian ----- Piccolo (Weighted clothing): 35,000,000 Cell: 30,000,000 Piccolo vs. #17 ----- Piccolo: 40,000,000 #17: 40,000,000 Cell vs. #16 ----- Cell: 50,000,000 #16: 50,000,000 Cell Stage 2: 80,000,000 Super Vegeta ----- Vegeta: 9,000,000 Vegeta Super Saiyan Stage 2: 100,000,000 Cell Stage 2: 80,000,000 Cell's Perfection ----- Perfect Cell (Holding back): 130,000,000 Vegeta Super Saiyan Stage 2: 100,000,000 Vegeta Super Saiyan Stage 2 (Final Flash): 145,000,000 Ultra Super Saiyan ----- Trunks: 5,500,000 Trunks Super Saiyan Stage 2: 95,000,000 Trunks Super Saiyan Stage 3: 150,000,000 Perfect Cell (Holding back): 130,000,000 Room of Spirit and Time Training ----- Gohan (Pre-training): 400,000 Gohan: 16,000,000 Gohan Full Power Super Saiyan: 230,000,000 Goku (Pre-training): 2,500,000 Goku: 15,000,000 Goku Super Saiyan Stage 2: 120,000,000 Goku Super Saiyan Stage 3: 175,000,000 Goku Full Power Super Saiyan: 210,000,000 The Cell Game ----- Goku Full Power Super Saiyan: 210,000,000 Perfect Cell (Holding back): 215,000,000 Goku Full Power Super Saiyan (Instantaneous Movement Kamehameha): 255,000,000 The Cell Juniors ----- Cell Juniors: 165,000,000 each Vegeta Super Saiyan Stage 2: 165,000,000 Trunks Super Saiyan Stage 2: 160,000,000 Goku Full Power Super Saiyan (Weakened from fighting Cell): 135,000,000 Piccolo: 55,000,000 Tenshinhan: 65,000 Kuririn: 65,000 Yamcha: 40,000 Gohan vs. Cell ----- Perfect Cell (Holding back): 235,000,000 Gohan Full Power Super Saiyan: 230,000,000 Super Saiyan 2 ----- Perfect Cell (Full power): 265,000,000 Gohan Super Saiyan 2: 350,000,000 Perfect Cell (Speed reducing buff form) 300,000,000 Super Perfect Cell: 315,000,000 Trunks-Free the Future ----- Trunks: 10,000,000 Trunks Super Saiyan: 95,000,000 #17: 34,000,000 #18: 32,000,000 Cell: 40,000,000 25th Tenkaichi Budoukai ----- Kuririn: 20,000 Punta: 6 Videl: 23 Spopovich: 80 Piccolo: 15,000,000 Kaioushin: 20,000,000 Kibito: 10,000,000 Gohan Super Saiyan: 90,000,000 Gohan Super Saiyan 2: 325,000,000 Mr. Satan: 15 Goten: 650,000 Goten Super Saiyan: 42,500,000 Trunks: 700,000 Trunks Super Saiyan: 45,000,000 #18: 38,000,000 Babidi’s Ship ----- Vegeta: 55,000,000 Pui Pui: 25,000,000 Goku: 30,500,000 Goku Super Saiyan: 200,000,000 Goku Super Saiyan 2: 450,000,000 Yakon: 30,500,000 Gohan Super Saiyan 2: 320,000,000 Dabura: 325,000,000 Super Saiyan 2 Goku vs. Super Saiyan 2 Majin Vegeta ----- Majin Vegeta Super Saiyan 2: 450,000,000 Goku Super Saiyan 2: 450,000,000 Majin Buu's Revival ----- Gohan Super Saiyan 2 (Attacking Buu‘s egg): 400,000,000 Majin Buu (Playful): 300,000,000 Majin Buu: 650,000,000 Dabura: 325,000,000 Dabura (Weakened): 185,000,000 Majin Vegeta Super Saiyan 2: 450,000,000 Super Saiyan 3 Goku vs. Majin Buu ----- Goku: 30,500,000 Goku Super Saiyan: 115,000,000 Goku Super Saiyan 2: 450,000,000 Goku Super Saiyan 3 (Holding back): 700,000,000 Majin Buu: 650,000,000 Fusion! ----- Goten: 650,000 Trunks: 700,000 Gotenks: 400,000,000 Goten Super Saiyan: 42,500,000 Trunks Super Saiyan: 45,000,000 Gotenks Super Saiyan: 950,000,000 Majin Buu: 650,000,000 Gotenks vs. Super Buu ----- Goten: 750,000 Trunks: 800,000 Gotenks: 500,000,000 Gotenks Super Saiyan: 1,500,000,000 Gotenks Super Saiyan 3: 3,500,000,000 Super Buu: 3,000,000,000 Super Gohan vs. Super Buu ----- Gohan: 4,000,000,000 Super Buu: 3,000,000,000 Super Buu Gotenks: 6,500,000,000 Goku Returns ----- Kaioushin: 20,000,000 Kibito: 10,000,000 Kibito-Shin: 300,000,000 Goku: 30,500,000 Goku Super Saiyan 3: 900,000,000 Super Buu Gotenks: 6,500,000,000 Super Buu Piccolo: 3,100,000,000 Super Buu Gohan: 8,500,000,000 Vegetto vs. Super Buu ----- Goku: 30,500,000 Vegeta: 55,000,000 Vegetto: 2,000,000,000 Vegetto Super Saiyan 2: 18,000,000,000 Super Buu Gohan: 8,500,000,000 Super Buu's Regression ----- Super Buu: 3,000,000,000 Goku Super Saiyan: 200,000,000 Vegeta Super Saiyan: 175,000,000 Buff Buu: 4,500,000,000 Kid Buu: 900,000,000 Battle on the Kaioushin Planet ----- Goku Super Saiyan 3: 900,000,000 Kid Buu: 900,000,000 Vegeta Super Saiyan 2: 400,000,000 Mr. Buu: 500,000,000 Goku (Chou Genki Dama): 15,500,000,000 28th Tenkaichi Budoukai ----- Pan: 50,000 Uub: 30 Uub (Enraged): 60,000,000 Goku: 60,000,000 Vegeta: 80,000,000 Mr. Buu: 500,000,000 Mr. Satan: 15 Trunks: 350,000 Goten: 400,000 Kirano: 6 Noku: 6 Otoku Suki: 7 Captain Chicken: 8 Wild Tiger: 9
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way to avoid confrontation. no other comment/10
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So, does "no other comment" mean "10"?
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brilliant i think absalutaly brilliant if it can be turned into propar english and stuff it would be good enough to add to the site since it has more information and stuff. i think it should go on the site if its turned to english. |
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Every thing on my sheet is in VIZ terms... Except Makankousappou, but "light of death" is quite... wrong.
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I made some changes
----- Kuririn: 20,000 Punta: 5 Videl: 9 Spopovich: 80 Piccolo: 15,000,000 Kaioushin: 20,000,000 Kibito: 10,000 Gohan Super Saiyan: 90,000,000 Gohan Super Saiyan 2: 320,000,000 Mr. Satan: 7 Goten: 650,000 Goten Super Saiyan: 92,500,000 Trunks: 700,000 Trunks Super Saiyan: 95,000,000 #18: 38,000,000 Babidi’s Ship ----- Vegeta: 55,000,000 Pui Pui: 25,000 Goku: 30,500,000 Goku Super Saiyan: 115,000,000 Goku Super Saiyan 2: 450,000,000 Yakon: 30,500,000 Gohan Super Saiyan 2: 320,000,000 Dabura: 325,000,000 Super Saiyan 2 Goku vs. Super Saiyan 2 Majin Vegeta ----- Majin Vegeta Super Saiyan 2: 450,000,000 Goku Super Saiyan 2: 450,000,000 Majin Buu's Revival ----- Gohan Super Saiyan 2 (Attacking Buu‘s egg): 330,000,000 Majin Buu (Playful): 300,000,000 Majin Buu: 650,000,000 Dabura: 325,000,000 Dabura (Weakened): 185,000,000 Majin Vegeta Super Saiyan 2: 450,000,000 Super Saiyan 3 Goku vs. Majin Buu ----- Goku: 30,500,000 Goku Super Saiyan: 115,000,000 Goku Super Saiyan 2: 450,000,000 Goku Super Saiyan 3 (Holding back): 700,000,000 Majin Buu: 750,000,000 Fusion! ----- Goten: 650,000 Trunks: 700,000 Gotenks: 430,000,000 Goten Super Saiyan: 92,500,000 Trunks Super Saiyan: 95,000,000 Gotenks Super Saiyan: 950,000,000 Majin Buu: 750,000,000 Gotenks vs. Super Buu ----- Goten: 750,000 Trunks: 800,000 Gotenks: 500,000,000 Gotenks Super Saiyan: 1,500,000,000 Gotenks Super Saiyan 3: 4,500,000,000 Super Buu: 3,000,000,000 Super Gohan vs. Super Buu ----- Gohan: 5,000,000,000 Super Buu: 3,000,000,000 Super Buu Gotenks: 7,500,000,000 Goku Returns ----- Kaioushin: 20,000,000 Kibito: 10,000 Kibito-Shin: 300,000,000 Goku: 30,500,000 Goku Super Saiyan 3: 900,000,000 Super Buu Gotenks: 7,500,000,000 Super Buu Piccolo: 3,100,000,000 Super Buu Gohan: 8,500,000,000 Vegetto vs. Super Buu ----- Goku: 30,500,000 Vegeta: 55,000,000 Vegetto: 2,000,000,000 Vegetto Super Saiyan 2: 18,000,000,000 Super Buu Gohan: 8,500,000,000 Super Buu's Regression ----- Super Buu: 3,000,000,000 Goku Super Saiyan: 115,000,000 Vegeta Super Saiyan: 110,000,000 Buff Buu: 4,000,000,000 Kid Buu: 670,000,000 Battle on the Kaioushin Planet ----- Goku Super Saiyan 3: 650,000,000 Kid Buu: 670,000,000 Vegeta Super Saiyan 2: 400,000,000 Mr. Buu: 500,000,000 Goku (Super Genki Dama): 15,500,000,000 28th Tenkaichi Budoukai ----- Pan: 0.1 Uub: 30 Uub (Enraged): 60,000,000 Goku: 60,000,000 Vegeta: 80,000,000 Mr. Buu: 500,000,000 Mr. Satan: 8 Trunks: 750,000 Goten: 800,000 Kirano: 6 Noku: 6 Otoku Suki: 7 Captain Chicken: 8 Wild Tiger: 9 [b] I changed some stuff |
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So you think that when he was fighting Gokuu, he was using 18.75% of his full power?
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I only have a couple comments.
Wouldn't Cell's power level be lower than the Cell that Piccolo confronted the first time considering if Trunks wouldn't have stopped him, it would of been the regular timeline happening all over again. So what I'm basically saying is that Cell should be lower than 30,000,000 because he hasn't absorbed nearly as much power as the Cell in the regular timeline.
Also, why would Piccolo's Power have gone down after the 7 years? I could be wrong, but doesn't Piccolo train. I can understand why Gohan's power would go down but Piccolo's? Doesn't sound right to me. Again, I could be wrong so this is my opinion. |
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It wasn't actually stated that he was using 33% in the manga, in the anime, he says "1/3", or so I've heard. Didn't Kaiou-Sama say KKx10 Goku and Freeza were equal? SSj Goten, If you're going to make changes, please put them in bold so I know what you changed.
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I don't recall him saying they were exactly equal, just something like they were fighting far more equally than he had thought they would. And Uub with a power level of 30 makes sense, seeing as how the kid could barely fight at all in the beginning, and he seemed genuinely afraid of several of the other fighters there, so he couldn't have been very strong at all.
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He was able to beat every other human in the pre-elimination rounds, but he was still pretty weak.
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God:(I forget his name) They've begun to fight... so far...the fight is even.
I know that but that would mean hes more than twice as strong as a human Id say hes 9. |
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Found it!
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I see no Evil Buu vs. Mr. Buu BTW |
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