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Old 10-19-2004   #46 (permalink)
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If you r meening the Spirit Bomb thing you are wrong. The spirit bomb draws power from nature/life etc... That power also protects a person from some attacks.


WRONG/10 Goku got hurt by Freeza when making the spirit bomb


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Look in GT, SSJ4 Goku was no match for Omega Shenlong, so the spirit bomb came along. This bomb created from energy all over the universe was stronger than Omega Shenlong so he was beaten. Also Omega Shenlong fires a ki blast to Goku but still Goku is protected by the Energy of the spiritbomb. If SSJ4 Goku could create an Spirit bomb he would be even more powerful, but you cant create a spirit bomb in a transformed state (dont talk about movie 7: Super android 13 - it was weird).


Goku cannot get protected from the energy since it goes into the BALL not around him....



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Now if you think this is stupid about GT it is not just think about Dragonball Z:

When Goku fights frieza in the beginning we learn that he has been using Kao ken all the time but that it does not work. Later on the Spirit Bomb is used and it does hurt Frieza but Goku created the Spirit bomb in his normal state!!! So base goku>>>Goku using Kao ken

Also in the fight with Kid Buu, SSJ3 Goku could not beat him, but then Goku creates a Spirit Bomb in his NORMAL STATE and he is also protected by the power of the spirit bomb. Cause while Goku is powering up his spirit bomb and when Vegeta is in the way so Goku could not throw it, Kid Buu fires energy blasts to Goku but Goku could still take them on unprotected even though his hands were up!! So Base Goku>>>SSJ3 Goku!!

So transformations are stronger than base levels but that story does not count when a spirit bomb is used!!

If you all did not mean the Spirit bom thing while saying SSJ4<<<<<<<Base Kid Goku then please tell me the other reason, if you did ment the spirit bomb thing nvm then


WTF....Goku got hurt making the Spirit Bomb by Freeza and the Kaioken X20 was STATED to drain Goku....

Goku was not protected since he got HURT and dodged one of the blasts by Buu.....


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and how about Kid Buu!!!!!

Kid Buu was stronger than SSJ3 Goku!!

When Goku in his normal state creates a Spirit Bomb he cannot throw it since Vegeta is in the way. Then Kid Buu fires Ki Blasts at Goku who is unprotected since his hands were up!!! Now it did hurt Goku somewhat but those blast hurt Goku much as SSJ3!!!and while creating the Spirit Bomb Goku nearly felt a thing:P

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Buu was hardly trying, and was playing around
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well he was scared of that massive spirit bomb and this was his change to beat Goku so I hardly doubt that!!
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