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(26) Great Elder of Namek
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Trunks (Repressed) - 5
Cyborg Freiza (Not Full Power) - 7,300,000 King Cold - 8,800,000 Super Saiyan Trunks - 16,500,000 Super Saiyan Goku - 17,000,000 --- Gohan - 3,000,000 Piccolo - 5,000,000 SS Goku - 21,000,000 VHD SS Goku - 2,100,000 #19 - 2,500,000 Vegeta - 3,700,000 Super Saiyan Vegeta - 22,000,000 #20 - 3,000,000 #18 - 28,000,000 SS Trunks - 19,000,000 Piccolo - 30,000,000 Cell - 18,000,000 #17 - 30,000,000 Piccolo - 30,000,000 Cell - 35,000,000 #16 - 35,000,000 Imperfect Cell - 50,000,000 Super Vegeta - 70,000,000 Super Trunks - 65,000,000 Perfect Cell - 100,000,000 Super Trunks 2 - 130,000,000 SS Goku - 75,000,000 Super Saiyan Gohan - 80,000,000 Full Power Super Saiyan Goku - 150,000,000 Full Power Perfect Cell - 180,000,000 Full Power Super Saiyan Gohan - 160,000,000 Cell Juniors - 180,000,000 Super Vegeta - 125,000,000 Super Trunks - 120,000,000 Super Saiyan 2 Gohan - 300,000,000 Imperfect Cell - 50,000,000 Cell's Self Destruction - 200,000,000 (PL x 4) Super Perfect Cell - 220,000,000 Injured SS2 Gohan - 150,000,000 Super Perfect Cell + Kamehameha = 440,000,000 Injured SS2 Gohan + Kamehameha = 300,000,000 Power Unleashed SS2 Gohan+ Kamehameha = 600,000,000 --- Dabura - 200 Million Pui Pui - 200,000 Vegeta - 30 Million Yakon - 5 Million Goku - 10 Million SS Goku - 250 Million Dabura (Meditated) - 250 Million SS2 Gohan - 220 Million Majin Vegeta - 500 Million Super Saiyan 2 Goku - 500 Million Majin Buu - 600 Million Majin Vegeta's Final Explosion - 2,000,000,000 (PL x 4) --- Goku - 10 Million SS Goku - 250 Million SS2 Goku - 500 Million Super Saiyan 3 Goku - 1,500,000,000 Majin Buu - 600 Million to 1.8 Billion Gotenks - 200 Million Super Saiyan Gotenks - 2 Billion Mr. Buu - 600 Million Evil Buu - 1.2 Billion Super Buu - 4 Billion Gotenks - 250 Million SS Gotenks - 2.5 Billion Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks - 10 Billion Chao Gohan - 12 Billion Buu/Gotenks - 20 Billion Buu/Piccolo - 4.2 Billion Buu/Gohan - 25 Billion Vegito - 750 Million Super Vegito - 45 Billion Kid Buu - 1 Billion SS3 Goku - 1 Billion Super Saiyan 2 Vegeta - 360 Million Mister Buu - 600 Million Super Spirit Bomb - 20 Billion
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Again, I ask, how did you get this? I'm very curious I still think you have the character's base levels way to high, but, again, it's a matter of opinion.
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You can only use "Matter of opinion" for a select few PL's...the MAJORITY of them have to be based on intelligant thought. And mine are...Vegeta's base being 1/6th of his SS Form and Goku's being 1/25'th of his SS Form. Super Spirit Bomb Formula - 2.5 (Half of average humans PL) x 5 Billion (Population in the mid-90's at some time, seemed like a good number) + 10.3 Billion (Half of SS3 Gotenks PL and Chao Gohans Power, Put together.) Although, SS3 Gotenks wasn't present, but the Other Z-fighters and Other planets he drew Ki from would make up that difference.
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Correct, Vegeta was bluffing, it was Gero>>>drained Vegeta. But, Blackmasta, USSJ Trunks>Cell>FP-SSJ Gohan
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1) Is that Necessary? We all know he was weaker than Gero after being drained, big whoop. 2) Piccolo had the Power Edge in that battle, and 17 was faster. I got that DISTINCT impression when I read the Manga, so thus it evens out. Plus Picclo had enough power to Kill 17 (Damn Barrier) and being = probably wouldn't allow that, or at least with an Android. 3) Super Trunks 2 >>>> Perfect Cell >> SS Gohan > SS Goku. Trunks is stated to have more Raw Power then Perfect Cell, and Perfect Cell WASN'T holding back because he had to Buff Up in order to display more power, so his non-buff Perfect Max was significantly Lower than SuperTrunks2.
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LOL, you notice we agree on alot of things? I think Piccolo>#17 (In power level, that is) My PL's Piccolo (After the fusion with Kami): 74,000,000 #17: 73,500,000 I fell that they were about equal, but Piccolo was slightly stronger. And Cell pretty much stated that the buffed out form would be useless anyway, and "anyone can get buff out to become more powerful, but their speed is reduced.) USSJ Trunks>Cell Buff Cell>USSJ Trunks In terms of speed, USSJ Trunks>Cell, so Cell wouldn't want to get buff.
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We disagree on a lot of things too.
But yeah, Piccolo had a power edge on 17, its pretty OBVIOUS.
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ok, raw power=/=ki power. raw power is the power of your muscles and what not. if trunks>>>cell in raw power, that doesnt mean his power level is higher. it means that his brute force is higher.
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Power Level is based on Ki, and thats basically Brute Force.
Nyqua, YOUR WRONG.
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Super Sayin 3 goku aint one bill.. Vegito is much stronger then a SSJ3 but you made him lower... SSJ3 cannot be equal to Kid BU.. I think Kid buu is strongher. Now again its my opinion.
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Uh, yeah it is. Overall Ki is the measure of ones power level, its not an estimation of many factors, its how much Ki they have.
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No, his power was higher, says Cell. Look at my quote in that other topic.
You realize Vegeta said that Goku had once again surpassed him because Goku said he was using 50% power, right? Therefore, Vegeta may have just estimated how powerful his FP-SSJ would be and said that. It's impossible for ASSJ Vegeta<50% Goku, it's not logical. And you guys realzie Vegeta was in ASSJ form, not USSJ, right? There's a big difference.
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