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Old 09-01-2004   #1 (permalink)
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do u like to villians over the heros,
do you hate the guts out of goku and love to nasty oppents he has to face..

do u stick with the heros and root for goku in every battle......

choose.... r u on the good or evil side
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Old 09-01-2004   #2 (permalink)
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Im like vegeta. good, but mean LOL!
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QUOTE (majinvegeta28 @ Aug 31 2004, 07:34 PM)
Im like vegeta. good, but mean LOL!

he is mean but in a good way!!!

like the time he hugged trunks then hit him over the head and knocked him out!

and all that to save him!!!!
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*sigh* Nothing, not even DBZ, is as simple as good and bad, black and white. There is much grey. All people considored "evil" did what they did because of what they believed in.

1. Raditz.
Raditz was grown as a soldier. He only need fighting. He had a sense of pride in destroying planets. He knew what Frieza was making him do was evil, and for a time probably resented it. After a time, one must conform to their life as it is because they have no say in the matter. Raditz had no intention to kill Gohan. He only captured him, just so he could fight Goku. Raditz only knew fighting. It sicked him to think that Goku was living with thease Earthlings. That's the waty he was brought up.

2. Frieza
Let's get one thing straight, Frieza was power hungry, there is no deniying that. I'm not in any way justifing what Frieza did. Frieza believed that he was better than anyone else. He grew up thinking that might makes right and he is better. With thease thoughts implanted in his mind, it's clear why Frieza becam a tyrant.

3. Cell
Okay. From the time Cell is born, he has a freakin' computer telling him he is better, stronger, and more fit to live than any other lifeform on Earth. I think it's pretty obvious why he is evil. Also, his primary function was to attain perfection, he could not go against his programing.

4. Buu
Fat Buu is obviously not evil. "Bibidy tell Buu to kill people, Babidi tell Buu to destroy." "Is to kill people a bad thing? ......... Then, no more."
Evil Buu and Kid Buu are the ONLY ones that are pure evil. All the goodness was sucked from them.

Same things go for all the heros. None are purely good.
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Good point.You put it well Mystic Shadow.That was very nice.
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Thanks. May be an upcoming editorial. "Don't judge a book by its cover." With more examples ofcaorse.
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QUOTE (Mystic Shadow @ Aug 31 2004, 07:43 PM)
*sigh* Nothing, not even DBZ, is as simple as good and bad, black and white. There is much grey. All people considored "evil" did what they did because of what they believed in.

1. Raditz.
Raditz was grown as a soldier. He only need fighting. He had a sense of pride in destroying planets. He knew what Frieza was making him do was evil, and for a time probably resented it. After a time, one must conform to their life as it is because they have no say in the matter. Raditz had no intention to kill Gohan. He only captured him, just so he could fight Goku. Raditz only knew fighting. It sicked him to think that Goku was living with thease Earthlings. That's the waty he was brought up.

2. Frieza
Let's get one thing straight, Frieza was power hungry, there is no deniying that. I'm not in any way justifing what Frieza did. Frieza believed that he was better than anyone else. He grew up thinking that might makes right and he is better. With thease thoughts implanted in his mind, it's clear why Frieza becam a tyrant.

3. Cell
Okay. From the time Cell is born, he has a freakin' computer telling him he is better, stronger, and more fit to live than any other lifeform on Earth. I think it's pretty obvious why he is evil. Also, his primary function was to attain perfection, he could not go against his programing.

4. Buu
Fat Buu is obviously not evil. "Bibidy tell Buu to kill people, Babidi tell Buu to destroy." "Is to kill people a bad thing? ......... Then, no more."
Evil Buu and Kid Buu are the ONLY ones that are pure evil. All the goodness was sucked from them.

Same things go for all the heros. None are purely good.

the last part got me,,, 'same with heros none purely good' i thought goku was pure good ?
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Thats right several of the Z warriors started out bad and some villians even started out good.

bad guys to heroes

Yamcha- desert bandit
Tien- ruthless fighter
Piccolo-wanted to rule the world
Chiaotzu- loyal to Master Shen
Vegeta- raised to kill
Raditz- raised to kill

good guys to villians

Master Shen- saw that evil can have its advatages
Mercenary Tao- influenced by his brother
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bacon...... man u rock ur in nearly every topic ive made
i just wonted to say that.



u dont piccolo being evil, u just dont see
piccolo evil never!!!!! thats how a feal about him
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And to add to Bacon's list.

People who became good.

Goku- Got bumped on head.
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QUOTE (Sabu @ Aug 31 2004, 08:07 PM)
And to add to Bacon's list.

People who became good.

Goku- Got bumped on head.

lol i forgot about that one.......... well he was nearly all good
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No, Goku is not pure good. He hit his head, so he lost his violent nature. He still loved to fight. No body can be pure good. They even mad a big deal that someone begins to become a bit more ruthless when they are super saiya-jins. Goku became ruthless when SSJ. Even in his base, he was a "good guy," but not pure good.
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we know that now.... stop with the bumping on head thing
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I satrted typing before those were posted.
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Vegeta went from Evil to good to Evil to good to confused then back to good.

Most of the Villains in DB and some in DBZ have become good...its rather strange.
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