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Old 08-31-2004   #46 (permalink)
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QUOTE (quaze6 @ Aug 30 2004, 07:50 PM)
that is not true, becase gotenks went ssj3, and he is onyly half sayian

dude, you dont need brute waves to go ss4, goku did it without the brute waves. all u have to do is master golden oozaru.

Here are the steps again to become SSJ4

1. Have tail.

2. Be a full blooded Saiyan.

Actaully you do need Brute Waves. Just not form Bulma's machine. In order to become the Golden Oozaur you need to absorb Brute Waves so yes you do need them not just to be able to control the Golden Oozaur.

yo I know everything: You're right I have been a huge DBZGT fan for many years now and I do accept other people's opinion but shouldn't this be in the DBAF section? Cause this never would happen! I think that's why I don't except others opinion and that is because I am just trying to state the facts not what if. So Bacon could you please move this to the DBAF section?
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Actaully you do need Brute Waves. Just not form Bulma's machine. In order to become the Golden Oozaur you need to absorb Brute Waves so yes you do need them not just to be able to control the Golden Oozaur.


then where did goku get the bruete waves?
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Its not fake but if anywhere it should be in the saiyans forum.

I cant move it there the Saiyans forum of DBAF forum isnt a choice in moving topics.
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He got them form the Earth. You need to watch that episode over again. They explain everything. Remember he looked at the Earth and then it happened even someone in that episode explains it!
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o, well then can u get them from the moon?
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The tail absobs the blutz/brute waves which gives the saiyan the ability to transform. For Bulma to get the waves she had to direct the waves from the earth or moon into the tower and then fire them at Super Baby so he could transform.
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then gohan can go ss4. he can get a tial
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No he cant he has to a full blooded saiyan to be able to and you have to able to control golden oozaur and Gohan wouldnt be able to.

I wish I could move this so lets get back on topic its a versus topic. If you dont have new input dont post.
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its a hard choice but id say vegeta cause gohan doesnt train as much as vegeta now
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i carnt beleave my topic created so much arguments!!! i should do this more often!!

we are all talking about 'what ifs' and 'he could become' stuff... just think about what they are now, not what you think they can be!!
come on gohan lovers gohan would have a good chance he will lose and vegeta will have have a little chance he will lose.......
the only time the tables will turn is if gohan was angry and slashed out and vegeta didnt have help from bulma to become ssj4,

just one question what power can vegeta go to on his own? i thought he can only go ssj2 on his own.... if thats true cus im not sure, gohan just might win!!!

it all depends if vegeta is getting help!
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If Vegeta was only at SS2, Gohan would kick his ass at his Chou level
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if gohan traines more then he will be a lot stronger then the rest. gohan has a hiddon power and he still has not reathed it.


some people say that gohans full power is ss5.
but i dont think its is
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lets leave it as a draw...... or unknown!!!


stop talking about what gohan could be!!!
and look at what he is now!!!!!!!
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Conversations liked this are always biased, if you like a character then your going to say them. On my forums there was a discussion about SS Brolly vs Super 17, but Brolly is ahead because of his large fan base even though Super 17 is a lot stronger (I can say this because I dislike them both)
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QUOTE (Superior @ Aug 30 2004, 10:07 PM)
. Only full blooded saiyans can go SSJ3 and 4.

where does it say only full blooded saiyans can go super saiyan 3 and 4 goten and trunks were both super saiyan 3s to form gotenks.to become a super saiyan 4 all you need is a tail and the ability to transform into a super saiyan 1or2 so you can become a golden oozaru.
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