WICH CHARACTER OF DBZ-DBGT IS THE STRONGEST? - Page 16

08-31-2004

QUOTE (Mystic Shadow @ Aug 30 2004, 05:11 PM)

Look, Duo. You agreed that Base Kid Goku >> SSJ4 Goku. You also stated that Chibi Goku = Kid Buu.

Mystic Gohan >>> Kid Buu (You know this), so Mystic Gohan >>>>> SSJ4 Goku.

Exactly Mystic. He is right Duo and Gohan has more potential!

.Chaos Saiyan · 08-31-2004

AGH!!!! CHIBI GOKU IS NOT NOT NOT STRONGER THAN SSJ4 GOKU!!! Why the hell would he transform if he got weaker? That's retarded, it's a joke, and you fools take it seriously! 17 was injured by 18 (SHOULD BE IMPOSSIBLE) but somehow she managed it, and then Goku was able to finish him. This by no means proves SSJ4 Goku is weaker than his base, if that were true he would never transform at all. There is NO proof his base went up, it was actually stated he lost power when he went chibi. Saying is base went up a ton (10x or w/e) is absolutely unfounded. Like I said before, unless GT directly contradicted and restated who had the highest potential, Mystic Gohan remains the strongest due to the fact it's a FACT he has the highest potential and it was ALL unlocked. Everything in Z remains entirely true, even in GT untill contradicted or proven wrong, and nothing has proven SSJ4 Goku is stronger than Mystic Gohan, but it has been stated and proven Mystic Gohan is far stronger than Goku could ever be so therefore it's still true. Get over it Goku fanboys.

08-31-2004

Wait til the Omega Shenron fight.......or IlShenron, 1 of them

I think Il(It is)

Il>>SSJ4

He used his strongest attack on him and it hurt SSJ4 Goku

BKG is unaffected by his STRONGEST ATTACK
BKG>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>SSJ4

.gogeta the super fusion · 08-31-2004

in Z, Gohan was stronger than Goku, even Goku at Full Power SS3. Gohan had more3 potentail and because of elder Kai, It was Unlock.

Duo · 08-31-2004

Mystic Gohan>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Goku at any point in DBZ.

GT Goku pwn'd everyone everywhere all the time, it sucked but thats how it was.

.Chaos Saiyan · 08-31-2004

Duo, you're starting to annoy me. Do you not even read what I say? Nyqua too, the fact is you have no clue what so ever what the pls in GT are. The facts point towards Mystic Gohan being stronger, there is NO evidence that Goku SSJ4 was more powerful than Mystic Gohan, and you saying "GT doesn't follow those rules" is BS because like I said, it's all true in GT untill proven wrong or contradicted, and this NEVER WAS. SO AS STATED, Mystic Gohan is the most powerful, with the exception of fusions. I don't understand why you people insist on going against what has been said in the manga, or by those who have right to the DB universe. Goku SSJ4 is weaker than Mystic Gohan, I already stated why, visual crap doesn't count, it can be considered filler. If you read closely my last post, and think logically, and realize you don't override the show/manga/or anyone with right to the db universe, you'll soon after realize that what I said is correct and there is no way SSJ4 Goku is stronger than Mystic Gohan. They took away his Mystic so SSJ4 Goku would be the strongest hero, why would they take it away if he was already stronger? Stop being delusional and try to actually absorb what I've said.

Mystic Shadow · 08-31-2004

Chaos, I agree with you and all, but don't shut people down like that. Let them atleast get their opinions out first.

.Chaos Saiyan · 08-31-2004

They all keep repeating things that have no value, after a while I start to get annoyed... Sorry if I'm a little mean, I've been in a bad mood the past few days, excuse me please. But all the things I said still stand, just take them in a nicer way now

Mystic Shadow · 09-01-2004

This GT crap needs to end though. You cannot compare DBZ and GT and get a clear answer.

Duo · 09-01-2004

QUOTE (Chaos Saiyan @ Aug 30 2004, 09:15 PM)

Duo, you're starting to annoy me. Do you not even read what I say? Nyqua too, the fact is you have no clue what so ever what the pls in GT are. The facts point towards Mystic Gohan being stronger, there is NO evidence that Goku SSJ4 was more powerful than Mystic Gohan, and you saying "GT doesn't follow those rules" is BS because like I said, it's all true in GT untill proven wrong or contradicted, and this NEVER WAS. SO AS STATED, Mystic Gohan is the most powerful, with the exception of fusions. I don't understand why you people insist on going against what has been said in the manga, or by those who have right to the DB universe. Goku SSJ4 is weaker than Mystic Gohan, I already stated why, visual crap doesn't count, it can be considered filler. If you read closely my last post, and think logically, and realize you don't override the show/manga/or anyone with right to the db universe, you'll soon after realize that what I said is correct and there is no way SSJ4 Goku is stronger than Mystic Gohan. They took away his Mystic so SSJ4 Goku would be the strongest hero, why would they take it away if he was already stronger? Stop being delusional and try to actually absorb what I've said.

You do realize I'm a moderator of this Forum, right Chaos?

I have made a PL Estimation Chart and that is where my opinion comes from.

Base Kid Goku was stronger then SS Gohan and SS Goten. I lowered thier SS Pl's as much as logically possible to make this true. Following the formula YOU designed for SS Levels, it ended up putting SS4 Goku at 30 Billion, and Mystic Gohan from Z was at 6 Billion, as high as he could logically go compared to all the PL's built up to that, most of which were based on the Officially released PL from the Cell Saga of SS2 Gohan. (only Official PL of that whole saga). That is where I come from.

On another note, you talked back to a mod and were very rude about it. You ruined it for everyone.

Topic Closed.

08-31-2004	#227 (permalink)
.Chaos Saiyan (9) Namekian Warrior Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 101 Rep Power: 5	WICH CHARACTER OF DBZ-DBGT IS THE STRONGEST? AGH!!!! CHIBI GOKU IS NOT NOT NOT STRONGER THAN SSJ4 GOKU!!! Why the hell would he transform if he got weaker? That's retarded, it's a joke, and you fools take it seriously! 17 was injured by 18 (SHOULD BE IMPOSSIBLE) but somehow she managed it, and then Goku was able to finish him. This by no means proves SSJ4 Goku is weaker than his base, if that were true he would never transform at all. There is NO proof his base went up, it was actually stated he lost power when he went chibi. Saying is base went up a ton (10x or w/e) is absolutely unfounded. Like I said before, unless GT directly contradicted and restated who had the highest potential, Mystic Gohan remains the strongest due to the fact it's a FACT he has the highest potential and it was ALL unlocked. Everything in Z remains entirely true, even in GT untill contradicted or proven wrong, and nothing has proven SSJ4 Goku is stronger than Mystic Gohan, but it has been stated and proven Mystic Gohan is far stronger than Goku could ever be so therefore it's still true. Get over it Goku fanboys.

08-31-2004	#228 (permalink)
Anonymous Guest Posts: n/a	WICH CHARACTER OF DBZ-DBGT IS THE STRONGEST? Wait til the Omega Shenron fight.......or IlShenron, 1 of them I think Il(It is) Il>>SSJ4 He used his strongest attack on him and it hurt SSJ4 Goku BKG is unaffected by his STRONGEST ATTACK BKG>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>SSJ4

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.gogeta the super fusion (24) Super Saiyan 4 Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 3,202 Rep Power: 8	WICH CHARACTER OF DBZ-DBGT IS THE STRONGEST? in Z, Gohan was stronger than Goku, even Goku at Full Power SS3. Gohan had more3 potentail and because of elder Kai, It was Unlock.

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Duo (26) Great Elder of Namek Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Grand Rapids, Michigan Posts: 5,259 Blog Entries: 4 Rep Power: 27	WICH CHARACTER OF DBZ-DBGT IS THE STRONGEST? Mystic Gohan>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Goku at any point in DBZ. GT Goku pwn'd everyone everywhere all the time, it sucked but thats how it was. __________________ "Christianity is not about building an absolutely secure little niche in the world where you can live with your perfect little wife and your perfect little children in your beautiful little house where you have no gays or minority groups anywhere near you. Christianity is about learning to love like Jesus loved and Jesus loved the poor and Jesus loved the broken."

08-31-2004	#231 (permalink)
.Chaos Saiyan (9) Namekian Warrior Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 101 Rep Power: 5	WICH CHARACTER OF DBZ-DBGT IS THE STRONGEST? Duo, you're starting to annoy me. Do you not even read what I say? Nyqua too, the fact is you have no clue what so ever what the pls in GT are. The facts point towards Mystic Gohan being stronger, there is NO evidence that Goku SSJ4 was more powerful than Mystic Gohan, and you saying "GT doesn't follow those rules" is BS because like I said, it's all true in GT untill proven wrong or contradicted, and this NEVER WAS. SO AS STATED, Mystic Gohan is the most powerful, with the exception of fusions. I don't understand why you people insist on going against what has been said in the manga, or by those who have right to the DB universe. Goku SSJ4 is weaker than Mystic Gohan, I already stated why, visual crap doesn't count, it can be considered filler. If you read closely my last post, and think logically, and realize you don't override the show/manga/or anyone with right to the db universe, you'll soon after realize that what I said is correct and there is no way SSJ4 Goku is stronger than Mystic Gohan. They took away his Mystic so SSJ4 Goku would be the strongest hero, why would they take it away if he was already stronger? Stop being delusional and try to actually absorb what I've said.

08-31-2004	#232 (permalink)
Mystic Shadow (19) Mastered Super Saiyan Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 1,097 Rep Power: 6	WICH CHARACTER OF DBZ-DBGT IS THE STRONGEST? Chaos, I agree with you and all, but don't shut people down like that. Let them atleast get their opinions out first.

08-31-2004	#233 (permalink)
.Chaos Saiyan (9) Namekian Warrior Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 101 Rep Power: 5	WICH CHARACTER OF DBZ-DBGT IS THE STRONGEST? They all keep repeating things that have no value, after a while I start to get annoyed... Sorry if I'm a little mean, I've been in a bad mood the past few days, excuse me please. But all the things I said still stand, just take them in a nicer way now

09-01-2004	#234 (permalink)
Mystic Shadow (19) Mastered Super Saiyan Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 1,097 Rep Power: 6	WICH CHARACTER OF DBZ-DBGT IS THE STRONGEST? This GT crap needs to end though. You cannot compare DBZ and GT and get a clear answer.