BurningVegeta

No because the potra earings were a lot more powerful than the fusion dance, accourding to Old Kai anyway, so i would say about ssj3 plus like said
wouldn't be a fair fight, seeing how they would both mess around waisting most of Gogeta's time

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FierceGamer

I'm sorry but what are you talking about??? Yes Gogeta KILLED Janemba. I'm not sure there's any room for interpretation on this one. I also don't see any reason to assume that the Portara Fusion has a better result than the Fusion Dance. I know that the Elder Kai said this, but the Kai's have constantly underestimated the Z fighters' abilities. I think this is just another case of this. The Fusion Dance is just fine. There's nothing wrong with it.

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Devilz

SSJ4 Goku >= SSJ Vegito. Assuming they are both equal, an
SSJ4 fusion would create a stronger warrior than SSJ Vegito would going
to SSJ3.

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LegendaryBroli

I believe if vegeta and goku as SS4 did the fusion dance like the others said Vegito's strength would be the same not any higher tor lower than SS4 gogeta's

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Devilz

SSJ4 Vegito would destroy SSJ4 Gogeta.

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FierceGamer

Why does everyone keep saying that? Just because the kai said it? The kai is not infallible, in fact, the kai's have proven themselves on more than one occasion to have no idea what's going on. They're constantly surprised by everyone's power. I bet he would be surprised by Gogeta's power if they ever met.

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Majuub

The potara fusion is stronger it was stated. But like I always say, Gogeta isn't far from Gogeta, honetsly I think that Vegeto would be at best 2x stronger than Gogeta at worst he would be 1.1x stronger but still he is stronger but not like 100x like everyone seems to think. SSJ4 Gogeta would outright violate SSJ3 Vegeto, the only way they could put up a match would be that Vegeto also in is SSJ4 otherwise he doesn't stand a chance.

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SRP76

Where? My copy does not have that.

Pertaining to the earrings themselves (not the warrior produced), Old Kai claimed that they would combine two people into one warrior "just like Fusion...but it'll work even better". "Work better". Not "make you stronger". There are several ways they can be considered "better", and none of them involve strength.

Secondly, the same Old Kai goes out of his way to downplay the Potara, when he goes so far as to insult Kibitoshin for suggesting that "the Potara were so powerful". Old Kai credits Vegito's ridiculous strength to the union of Vegeta and Goku, NOT to the Potara.

Majuub

In volume 41 the old Kai said that the potara earings fusion was superior to the ''silly dance they learned from the metamorese''. When did he insult Kibitoshin?
Kibitoshin says: Wow, the potara fusion is a lot stronger than I thought.

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Super Cool

Still Gogeta's SS4 transformation is lasts only 5-10 minutes so that's a huge flaw. Besides Vegito must be at least 5x stronger than Gogeta.

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warcrack

Even if the potara doesn't make the fusers stronger, if it is "better," then it would probably make a more "perfect" union of the fuser's personalities, traits, and techniques, making Vegetto a more skilled warrior than Gogeta.As to the actual topic of this thread? I used numbers awhile back to try finding out Gogeta's strength, and based on that, I'd say that base Gogeta is about the strength of ssj3 Goku, and ssj Gogeta is at Ultimate Gohan's level. I know some people don't like the idea of using PL lists, but that's just my personal conclusions on the matter. For all I know, he could quite possibly be much stronger; we've seen that fusion is much more than just the sum of two parts, so prehaps the increased skill and experience of Goku and Vegeta would make their fusion more powerful than their son's.However, as Majuub666 thinks, I believe Gogeta can defeat any form of Buu, even by my (comparitively low) estimates of him.

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Majuub

Just to prove you how their theories doesn't make sense, SSJ Gotenks is stronger than SSJ3 Goku, so it means a fusion of two beings far weaker than Goku results in a being stronger than him. So the union of Goku and Vegeta who are far stronger would only create a being as strong as mystic Gohan, or are these people assuming that the difference between Mystic Gohan and SSJ3 Goku is greater than the difference of SSJ3 Goku and Goten+Trunks.
Supercool, if Vegeto was 5-10x stronger than Gogeta everybody would be like HOLY SHXX, WTF IS THAT!!!! They said that the potara fusion was greater but they never say far greater or a lot greater, we can assume that at the VERY VERY best Vegeto is 2x stronger than Gogeta. You are a Vegeto fanboy, stop acting like that, SSJ4 Gogeta is the strongest character in the DB universe, but SSJ Vegeto is the TRUE strongest character period.
How in in the world did these guys assume that Gogeta was only the level of mystic Gohan, I would dare Gohan to stay alive more than 10secs against SSJ Gogeta. It's just there, Gogeta is the 2nd strongest.

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warcrack

It was just my estimate, using numbers. I had said in that post of mine you quoted that I could very possibly be wrong, as fusions are more than numbers and the sum of the fuser's parts. For all I know, the fusion could multiply Goku and Vegeta's combined PL even more so than it did for Goten and Trunks.

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Devilz

The fusion has a set multiplier, else it would mean that it would be more effective going SSJ first before doing fusion.

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Majuub

I think that the more powerful the beings are, the higher the multiplier will be, simple as that.
Warcrack, don't take it bad, I wasn't dissing you or anything, but even by using estimations I really don't see how anyone can make SSJ Gogeta as strong as mystic Gohan, I told you why it would be impossible.
Goku is a lot stronger in his dead SSJ3 body than when he is alive so it means he would do far better against Buu dead than alive. Still he wasn't a match for Janemba, Gogeta treated Janemba like a ragdoll. There is no way Mystic Gohan could do that to Janemba since he was probabily stronger than Super Buu.
I'll say it one more time: Vegeto>>Gogeta>>>>>>>>>>Everyone else.

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