Why didnt the Surpreme Kai warn Gohan?

Gogeta the Super Fusion · 12-16-2006

If the SurpremeKai and the Old kai were trainning Gohan to beat Buu,
why dint the Kais metion to Gohan that Buu could absorb the Z fighters?
If they told him that, Gohan wouldnt allow Goten/Trunks to fuse into
SuperSaiyan3Gotenks.

Tyro · 12-16-2006

They didn't expect this would happen. With Gohan's powers now fully drawn out, they figured this battle would go very smoothly. As Dai Kaioshin said:
Dai Kaioshin: "I didn't foresee this..."

The Prince · 12-16-2006

Why they "didn't forsee this..." we'll never know.....Geez they're stupid. Anyways Tyro is right.

Gozar · 12-16-2006

Well, it's not Old Kai's fault, just S.Kai. There are too possible reasons...
1. Kai is a retarded moron with no brain
2. Toriyama didn't come up with that idea yet.

Broly · 12-16-2006

Buus absorption technique probably didnt cross the Kai's minds. After seeing Gohan's little demonstration of power [Gohan's powerup] at the Kai planet, they prolly thought that they had everything in the bag, and Supreme Kai just didnt "foresee" what was about to happen to Gotenks. But that is just my opinion on the matter. Gozar's idea about Toriyama not really thinking about the idea could be the case as well. So.......

**JAIF** · 12-16-2006

The answer could be much simpler than you make it to be: Kaioshin (either the old or the current) didn't know Buu could absorb people. Before you start the flaming, Kaioshin had only witnessed Chibi Buu absorb people. With his evolution to Majin Buu (who didn't demonstrate any kind of absorption technique, unless you count the candy thing), and then Shin Buu, Kaioshin figured out absorption wouldn't work for Buu anymore. He hadn't seen Evil Buu absorb Good Buu so he didn't have a way of knowing. He thought the absorption was a technique only Chibi Buu would possess (and "Buff" Buu). Anyway that's what I think.

Daystar · 12-16-2006

Haha...
As Guardians and Overseers of the Universe...
They should have calculated every possible danger and told Gohan of them before heading out.
Think about it. In war, what do you do? You analyse your opponent, you warn your men, and you send them out.
That gives you an advantage. The Kai's should have known that sheer, raw power was not enough to take Buu out.
Careless Guardians is what they are.
I bet Toriyama was aware of this...
And the reason the story unfolded as it did is because he wanted to add more effect, more drama and action.
What were your reactions when you saw Gotenks absorbed by Buu? "OMG NU ;-:"
Yeah, that's what Toriyama was aiming for haha.
Don't make him seem as stupid as you are making him out to be - he was fully aware. As the author, you KNOW what's going to happen next ;)

Gogeta the Super Fusion · 12-16-2006

[quote user="Daystar"]Haha...
As Guardians and Overseers of the Universe...
They should have calculated every possible danger and told Gohan of them before heading out.
Think about it. In war, what do you do? You analyse your opponent, you warn your men, and you send them out.
That gives you an advantage. The Kai's should have known that sheer, raw power was not enough to take Buu out.
Careless Guardians is what they are.
I bet Toriyama was aware of this...
And the reason the story unfolded as it did is because he wanted to add more effect, more drama and action.
What were your reactions when you saw Gotenks absorbed by Buu? "OMG NU ;-:"
Yeah, that's what Toriyama was aiming for haha.
Don't
make him seem as stupid as you are making him out to be - he was fully
aware. As the author, you KNOW what's going to happen next ;)
[/quote]

Actully I was NOT dissing Akira Toriyama. I was dissing the
Supreme Kai. He saw his fellow Kais getting absorbed byBuu. I think he
saw the Cell battles on Eath. When Cell evolved into Cell #17, he could
still absorb people. Its the same thing with Buu. For the MOST part
when people transform, they do notlose naturale abilities.
But
I agree that as gods of DBZ, they should have caculated every
danger. But if they told Gohan that, there would be no reason to bring
Vegeta back to life. And therfore, no Vegeto fusion.

Daystar · 12-16-2006

[quote user="Gogeta the Super Fusion"][quote user="Daystar"]Haha...
As Guardians and Overseers of the Universe...
They should have calculated every possible danger and told Gohan of them before heading out.
Think about it. In war, what do you do? You analyse your opponent, you warn your men, and you send them out.
That gives you an advantage. The Kai's should have known that sheer, raw power was not enough to take Buu out.
Careless Guardians is what they are.
I bet Toriyama was aware of this...
And the reason the story unfolded as it did is because he wanted to add more effect, more drama and action.
What were your reactions when you saw Gotenks absorbed by Buu? "OMG NU ;-:"
Yeah, that's what Toriyama was aiming for haha.
Don't
make him seem as stupid as you are making him out to be - he was fully
aware. As the author, you KNOW what's going to happen next ;)
[/quote]

Actully I was NOT dissing Akira Toriyama. I was dissing the
Supreme Kai. He saw his fellow Kais getting absorbed byBuu. I think he
saw the Cell battles on Eath. When Cell evolved into Cell #17, he could
still absorb people. Its the same thing with Buu. For the MOST part
when people transform, they do notlose naturale abilities.
But
I agree that as gods of DBZ, they should have caculated every
danger. But if they told Gohan that, there would be no reason to bring
Vegeta back to life. And therfore, no Vegeto fusion.

[/quote]

xD Yeah man. Exactly.
It all comes down to the author and how they want the story to unfold. I never blamed you of anything bro xD
Haha. Vegetto was a very interesting plot twist though. It showed us that yeh, Vegeta actually did have something deeper than his innate pride.
I would imagine that if the Supreme Kai is as all-seeing and all-knowing as he appears to be, that yeah he did know of the battles on Earth.
But in my personal opinion, I reckon the Supreme Kai is actually just a mortal unaffected by the wear of age whom has harboured the responsibilities of the Universe.
So, in that respect, I'm saying that no, he did not know of these happenings. If he did, he wouldn't have been so amazed by our heroes who disposed of Babidi's minions so easily.
I'm also saying that even if he did possess the ability to see everything, know everything, then he was blind and impartial to himself and to justice as he was so focused on Babidi.
In my opinion, I think the Supreme Kai was selfish but selfless at the same time. Yes, he was trying to protect the Universe by chasing Babidi, foiling the evil magician's plans, ensuring the revival of Majin Buu was halted. But he was also selfish as he saw what happened to his companions and he feared Majin Buu because of that - anyone would be fearful and cautious of that monster - and in his attempt to save others, he was also attempting to save himself.
That's not a bad thing, btw. xD
We could go REALLY deep with this. Like the discussion of WHY, exactly, the story of his fellow Guardians' demise was not shared with Gohan before he went out to fight Buu. Maybe the Supreme Kai wanted to see how Gohan faired against the monster for a personal comparison? (We all know that the Supreme Kai is nothing compared to Gohan haha xD) Or maybe he was so relieved by the fact that someone had risen to a plateau so high that he had, perhaps, forgotten about what happened. But that again questions the Supreme Kai's apparent godlike abilities.

**JAIF** · 12-16-2006

[quote user="Daystar"]
Haha. Vegetto was a very interesting plot twist though. It showed us that yeh, Vegeta actually did have something deeper than his innate pride.
I would imagine that if the Supreme Kai is as all-seeing and all-knowing as he appears to be, that yeah he did know of the battles on Earth.
But in my personal opinion, I reckon the Supreme Kai is actually just a mortal unaffected by the wear of age whom has harboured the responsibilities of the Universe.
So, in that respect, I'm saying that no, he did not know of these happenings. If he did, he wouldn't have been so amazed by our heroes who disposed of Babidi's minions so easily.
I'm also saying that even if he did possess the ability to see everything, know everything, then he was blind and impartial to himself and to justice as he was so focused on Babidi.
In my opinion, I think the Supreme Kai was selfish but selfless at the same time. Yes, he was trying to protect the Universe by chasing Babidi, foiling the evil magician's plans, ensuring the revival of Majin Buu was halted. But he was also selfish as he saw what happened to his companions and he feared Majin Buu because of that - anyone would be fearful and cautious of that monster - and in his attempt to save others, he was also attempting to save himself.
That's not a bad thing, btw. xD
We could go REALLY deep with this. Like the discussion of WHY, exactly, the story of his fellow Guardians' demise was not shared with Gohan before he went out to fight Buu. Maybe the Supreme Kai wanted to see how Gohan faired against the monster for a personal comparison? (We all know that the Supreme Kai is nothing compared to Gohan haha xD) Or maybe he was so relieved by the fact that someone had risen to a plateau so high that he had, perhaps, forgotten about what happened. But that again questions the Supreme Kai's apparent godlike abilities.
[/quote]
Yes it showed us that Vegeta had fear as well. Vegeta fused out of desperation for his life. The deeper feelings were shown when he commited suicide. But, as you can see by looking at my avatar, I loved the Vegeto part. Lol Kaioshin wasn't all seeing and all knowing I don't even think he could sense ki energy. He was selfless but kind of arrogant. I don't think he had forgotten what had happened I just believe that he couldn't tell the new Buu could do the same things as the old one. As for the Cell part, how could Kaioshin know of the battles in Earth he needed the Rou Dai Kaioshin's crystal sphere to watch events away from the planet. Kaioshin is just a god, and divine entities are seriously under-powered in Dragonball-it's like making fun of them.

Daystar · 12-16-2006

[quote user="SuperVegetto3"]Yes it showed us that Vegeta had fear as well. Vegeta fused out of desperation for his life. The deeper feelings were shown when he commited suicide. But, as you can see by looking at my avatar, I loved the Vegeto part.
[/quote]
Lol, yeh man, the Vegetto parts were ace - I love that guy haha.
[quote user="SuperVegetto3"]
Lol Kaioshin wasn't all seeing and
all knowing I don't even think he could sense ki energy. He was
selfless but kind of arrogant. I don't think he had forgotten what had
happened I just believe that he couldn't tell the new Buu could do the
same things as the old one. As for the Cell part, how could Kaioshin
know of the battles in Earth he needed the Rou Dai Kaioshin's crystal
sphere to watch events away from the planet. Kaioshin is just a god,
and divine entities are seriously under-powered in Dragonball-it's like
making fun of them.
[/quote]If what you're saying is true, then it's a shame that the Kaioshin underestimated Buu that way.
Not much of a Guardian, imo.
I think I remember the Kaioshin saying something about watching the Earth now and then but never realised how strong its warriors were. I couldn't give you an exact episode number or chapter from the manga, but I am pretty certain he said something like that.
If the Kaioshin is "just a God," then why was he afraid when Goku threatened to blast him into oblivion if he didn't move out of his way to fight Vegeta?
Or when he was at the verge of death after being bruised, beaten and bled by Majin Buu's attacks? xD
You can't really say that he was "just a God" because we saw, in flashbacks, at least TWO Kaioshins die at the hand of Majin Buu. Or was it three? Haha.
Yeah, the Kaioshins are underpowered, and that's a shame, but that's how Toriyama wanted them ^-^

Daystar · 12-16-2006

Lol, my mate just gave me his opinion on the subject. Check itttt:

[ β i ? &sigmaf; δ ? ? σ ][Manchester United vs West Ham United][Gatto, Eshghe man <3] says:
The Supreme Kais did not inform of Gohan because they thought that Gohan's power was so big with the Mystic abilities that he could obliterate Buu easily and thus Buu would not have had the chance to absorb anyone as he might've not gotten passed Gohan. However, as we saw in the Cell Saga when Gohan went SSJ2, Gohan was toying with Cell and thus it resulted in Cell's backlash and one last stand

[ β i ? &sigmaf; δ ? ? σ ][Manchester United vs West Ham United][Gatto, Eshghe man <3] says:
against the Z fighters. Gohan's arrogance of a new power grew (i'm making him sound like Vegeta, but nahh. xD) and he toyed with Buu instead finishing him off quickly. It's true, Gohan might've not killed Buu SOO quickly, but at least he could've busted him up way more and stood in his way. The Kais had no anticipated Gohan to not be able to kill Buu with his powers and so, it resulted in Buu

[ β i ? &sigmaf; δ ? ? σ ][Manchester United vs West Ham United][Gatto, Eshghe man <3] says:
feeding off of more fighters as a source of absorption through power. Nevetheless, Gohan's Mystic powers had the ability to cripple Buu beyond repair. That's just my two cents.

The Chibi Kiriyama · 12-17-2006

Simple- if anyone else had the power Gohan and Gotenks had and didn't have Saiyan blood, Boo would have been dead from the getgo. Gotenks wrote his own fate through his blind Saiyan pride and drive for fighting. Had anyone else been in his shoes they would have realized that letting Gohan deal with things quick and effortlessly would have been best.

JammyBleached · 12-17-2006

Maybe he just couldn't be bothered.
He thought "sod it, let them figure it out. I had to. I'm not gonna' give Gohan an advantage."

**JAIF** · 12-17-2006

Lol. Kaioshin always suggested the easy way, he told the Z Fighters they should gang on Babidee's minions, he didn't even want to face Majin Buu, but suddenly he doesn't tell Gohan of Buu's absorption because he figures it isn't fair? If we go by that, Buu's absorption isn't fair as well. So Kaioshin wouldn't have any reason not to tell Gohan of the technique. He just didn't know Shin Buu had it as well.

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Gogeta the Super Fusion (15) Super Namekian Join Date: May 2006 Location: RIGHT ABOVE YOU!! BWAAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAH!! Posts: 474 Rep Power: 0	Why didnt the Surpreme Kai warn Gohan? If the SurpremeKai and the Old kai were trainning Gohan to beat Buu, why dint the Kais metion to Gohan that Buu could absorb the Z fighters? If they told him that, Gohan wouldnt allow Goten/Trunks to fuse into SuperSaiyan3Gotenks.

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Tyro (19) Mastered Super Saiyan Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Somerset, Kentucky Posts: 1,043 Rep Power: 7	Re: Why didnt the Surpreme Kai warn Gohan? They didn't expect this would happen. With Gohan's powers now fully drawn out, they figured this battle would go very smoothly. As Dai Kaioshin said: Dai Kaioshin: "I didn't foresee this..."

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The Prince (6) Disciple of Kami Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Iowa Posts: 50 Rep Power: 3	Re: Why didnt the Surpreme Kai warn Gohan? Why they "didn't forsee this..." we'll never know.....Geez they're stupid. Anyways Tyro is right.

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Gozar (17) Super Saiyan Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The Future Posts: 742 Rep Power: 4	Re: Why didnt the Surpreme Kai warn Gohan? Well, it's not Old Kai's fault, just S.Kai. There are too possible reasons... 1. Kai is a retarded moron with no brain 2. Toriyama didn't come up with that idea yet. __________________ "You hate the fact that your powerless to stop me, that your completly outmatched, well imagine feeling the way you do now all of the time like the people of this planet do. FOOLS, how do you think my Master Gohan felt when you ganged up on him in the rain and he had no way out. Well now it's your turn, I hope you enjoy it."-Trunks

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Broly The Desolate One Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: You think I give a shit about where you think I stay? Posts: 7,543 Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 33	Re: Why didnt the Surpreme Kai warn Gohan? Buus absorption technique probably didnt cross the Kai's minds. After seeing Gohan's little demonstration of power [Gohan's powerup] at the Kai planet, they prolly thought that they had everything in the bag, and Supreme Kai just didnt "foresee" what was about to happen to Gotenks. But that is just my opinion on the matter. Gozar's idea about Toriyama not really thinking about the idea could be the case as well. So....... __________________ $C:\Users\Silver Platter\Pictures\Broly_SSJ5_by_Gothax.jpg$

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JAIF Moderator Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Piercing the Heavens and stuff. Posts: 5,843 Rep Power: 60	Re: Why didnt the Surpreme Kai warn Gohan? The answer could be much simpler than you make it to be: Kaioshin (either the old or the current) didn't know Buu could absorb people. Before you start the flaming, Kaioshin had only witnessed Chibi Buu absorb people. With his evolution to Majin Buu (who didn't demonstrate any kind of absorption technique, unless you count the candy thing), and then Shin Buu, Kaioshin figured out absorption wouldn't work for Buu anymore. He hadn't seen Evil Buu absorb Good Buu so he didn't have a way of knowing. He thought the absorption was a technique only Chibi Buu would possess (and "Buff" Buu). Anyway that's what I think. __________________ Empty until further notice.

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Daystar (2) Farmer w/Shotgun Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Scotland Posts: 10 Rep Power: 0	Re: Why didnt the Surpreme Kai warn Gohan? Haha... As Guardians and Overseers of the Universe... They should have calculated every possible danger and told Gohan of them before heading out. Think about it. In war, what do you do? You analyse your opponent, you warn your men, and you send them out. That gives you an advantage. The Kai's should have known that sheer, raw power was not enough to take Buu out. Careless Guardians is what they are. I bet Toriyama was aware of this... And the reason the story unfolded as it did is because he wanted to add more effect, more drama and action. What were your reactions when you saw Gotenks absorbed by Buu? "OMG NU ;-:" Yeah, that's what Toriyama was aiming for haha. Don't make him seem as stupid as you are making him out to be - he was fully aware. As the author, you KNOW what's going to happen next ;) __________________

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Gogeta the Super Fusion (15) Super Namekian Join Date: May 2006 Location: RIGHT ABOVE YOU!! BWAAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAH!! Posts: 474 Rep Power: 0	Re: Why didnt the Surpreme Kai warn Gohan? [quote user="Daystar"]Haha... As Guardians and Overseers of the Universe... They should have calculated every possible danger and told Gohan of them before heading out. Think about it. In war, what do you do? You analyse your opponent, you warn your men, and you send them out. That gives you an advantage. The Kai's should have known that sheer, raw power was not enough to take Buu out. Careless Guardians is what they are. I bet Toriyama was aware of this... And the reason the story unfolded as it did is because he wanted to add more effect, more drama and action. What were your reactions when you saw Gotenks absorbed by Buu? "OMG NU ;-:" Yeah, that's what Toriyama was aiming for haha. Don't make him seem as stupid as you are making him out to be - he was fully aware. As the author, you KNOW what's going to happen next ;) [/quote] Actully I was NOT dissing Akira Toriyama. I was dissing the Supreme Kai. He saw his fellow Kais getting absorbed byBuu. I think he saw the Cell battles on Eath. When Cell evolved into Cell #17, he could still absorb people. Its the same thing with Buu. For the MOST part when people transform, they do notlose naturale abilities. But I agree that as gods of DBZ, they should have caculated every danger. But if they told Gohan that, there would be no reason to bring Vegeta back to life. And therfore, no Vegeto fusion.

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Daystar (2) Farmer w/Shotgun Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Scotland Posts: 10 Rep Power: 0	Re: Why didnt the Surpreme Kai warn Gohan? [quote user="Gogeta the Super Fusion"][quote user="Daystar"]Haha... As Guardians and Overseers of the Universe... They should have calculated every possible danger and told Gohan of them before heading out. Think about it. In war, what do you do? You analyse your opponent, you warn your men, and you send them out. That gives you an advantage. The Kai's should have known that sheer, raw power was not enough to take Buu out. Careless Guardians is what they are. I bet Toriyama was aware of this... And the reason the story unfolded as it did is because he wanted to add more effect, more drama and action. What were your reactions when you saw Gotenks absorbed by Buu? "OMG NU ;-:" Yeah, that's what Toriyama was aiming for haha. Don't make him seem as stupid as you are making him out to be - he was fully aware. As the author, you KNOW what's going to happen next ;) [/quote] Actully I was NOT dissing Akira Toriyama. I was dissing the Supreme Kai. He saw his fellow Kais getting absorbed byBuu. I think he saw the Cell battles on Eath. When Cell evolved into Cell #17, he could still absorb people. Its the same thing with Buu. For the MOST part when people transform, they do notlose naturale abilities. But I agree that as gods of DBZ, they should have caculated every danger. But if they told Gohan that, there would be no reason to bring Vegeta back to life. And therfore, no Vegeto fusion. [/quote] xD Yeah man. Exactly. It all comes down to the author and how they want the story to unfold. I never blamed you of anything bro xD Haha. Vegetto was a very interesting plot twist though. It showed us that yeh, Vegeta actually did have something deeper than his innate pride. I would imagine that if the Supreme Kai is as all-seeing and all-knowing as he appears to be, that yeah he did know of the battles on Earth. But in my personal opinion, I reckon the Supreme Kai is actually just a mortal unaffected by the wear of age whom has harboured the responsibilities of the Universe. So, in that respect, I'm saying that no, he did not know of these happenings. If he did, he wouldn't have been so amazed by our heroes who disposed of Babidi's minions so easily. I'm also saying that even if he did possess the ability to see everything, know everything, then he was blind and impartial to himself and to justice as he was so focused on Babidi. In my opinion, I think the Supreme Kai was selfish but selfless at the same time. Yes, he was trying to protect the Universe by chasing Babidi, foiling the evil magician's plans, ensuring the revival of Majin Buu was halted. But he was also selfish as he saw what happened to his companions and he feared Majin Buu because of that - anyone would be fearful and cautious of that monster - and in his attempt to save others, he was also attempting to save himself. That's not a bad thing, btw. xD We could go REALLY deep with this. Like the discussion of WHY, exactly, the story of his fellow Guardians' demise was not shared with Gohan before he went out to fight Buu. Maybe the Supreme Kai wanted to see how Gohan faired against the monster for a personal comparison? (We all know that the Supreme Kai is nothing compared to Gohan haha xD) Or maybe he was so relieved by the fact that someone had risen to a plateau so high that he had, perhaps, forgotten about what happened. But that again questions the Supreme Kai's apparent godlike abilities. __________________

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JAIF Moderator Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Piercing the Heavens and stuff. Posts: 5,843 Rep Power: 60	Re: Why didnt the Surpreme Kai warn Gohan? [quote user="Daystar"] Haha. Vegetto was a very interesting plot twist though. It showed us that yeh, Vegeta actually did have something deeper than his innate pride. I would imagine that if the Supreme Kai is as all-seeing and all-knowing as he appears to be, that yeah he did know of the battles on Earth. But in my personal opinion, I reckon the Supreme Kai is actually just a mortal unaffected by the wear of age whom has harboured the responsibilities of the Universe. So, in that respect, I'm saying that no, he did not know of these happenings. If he did, he wouldn't have been so amazed by our heroes who disposed of Babidi's minions so easily. I'm also saying that even if he did possess the ability to see everything, know everything, then he was blind and impartial to himself and to justice as he was so focused on Babidi. In my opinion, I think the Supreme Kai was selfish but selfless at the same time. Yes, he was trying to protect the Universe by chasing Babidi, foiling the evil magician's plans, ensuring the revival of Majin Buu was halted. But he was also selfish as he saw what happened to his companions and he feared Majin Buu because of that - anyone would be fearful and cautious of that monster - and in his attempt to save others, he was also attempting to save himself. That's not a bad thing, btw. xD We could go REALLY deep with this. Like the discussion of WHY, exactly, the story of his fellow Guardians' demise was not shared with Gohan before he went out to fight Buu. Maybe the Supreme Kai wanted to see how Gohan faired against the monster for a personal comparison? (We all know that the Supreme Kai is nothing compared to Gohan haha xD) Or maybe he was so relieved by the fact that someone had risen to a plateau so high that he had, perhaps, forgotten about what happened. But that again questions the Supreme Kai's apparent godlike abilities. [/quote] Yes it showed us that Vegeta had fear as well. Vegeta fused out of desperation for his life. The deeper feelings were shown when he commited suicide. But, as you can see by looking at my avatar, I loved the Vegeto part. Lol Kaioshin wasn't all seeing and all knowing I don't even think he could sense ki energy. He was selfless but kind of arrogant. I don't think he had forgotten what had happened I just believe that he couldn't tell the new Buu could do the same things as the old one. As for the Cell part, how could Kaioshin know of the battles in Earth he needed the Rou Dai Kaioshin's crystal sphere to watch events away from the planet. Kaioshin is just a god, and divine entities are seriously under-powered in Dragonball-it's like making fun of them. __________________ Empty until further notice.

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Daystar (2) Farmer w/Shotgun Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Scotland Posts: 10 Rep Power: 0	Re: Why didnt the Surpreme Kai warn Gohan? [quote user="SuperVegetto3"]Yes it showed us that Vegeta had fear as well. Vegeta fused out of desperation for his life. The deeper feelings were shown when he commited suicide. But, as you can see by looking at my avatar, I loved the Vegeto part. [/quote] Lol, yeh man, the Vegetto parts were ace - I love that guy haha. [quote user="SuperVegetto3"] Lol Kaioshin wasn't all seeing and all knowing I don't even think he could sense ki energy. He was selfless but kind of arrogant. I don't think he had forgotten what had happened I just believe that he couldn't tell the new Buu could do the same things as the old one. As for the Cell part, how could Kaioshin know of the battles in Earth he needed the Rou Dai Kaioshin's crystal sphere to watch events away from the planet. Kaioshin is just a god, and divine entities are seriously under-powered in Dragonball-it's like making fun of them. [/quote]If what you're saying is true, then it's a shame that the Kaioshin underestimated Buu that way. Not much of a Guardian, imo. I think I remember the Kaioshin saying something about watching the Earth now and then but never realised how strong its warriors were. I couldn't give you an exact episode number or chapter from the manga, but I am pretty certain he said something like that. If the Kaioshin is "just a God," then why was he afraid when Goku threatened to blast him into oblivion if he didn't move out of his way to fight Vegeta? Or when he was at the verge of death after being bruised, beaten and bled by Majin Buu's attacks? xD You can't really say that he was "just a God" because we saw, in flashbacks, at least TWO Kaioshins die at the hand of Majin Buu. Or was it three? Haha. Yeah, the Kaioshins are underpowered, and that's a shame, but that's how Toriyama wanted them ^-^ __________________

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Daystar (2) Farmer w/Shotgun Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Scotland Posts: 10 Rep Power: 0	Re: Why didnt the Surpreme Kai warn Gohan? Lol, my mate just gave me his opinion on the subject. Check itttt: [ β i ? &sigmaf; δ ? ? σ ][Manchester United vs West Ham United][Gatto, Eshghe man <3] says: The Supreme Kais did not inform of Gohan because they thought that Gohan's power was so big with the Mystic abilities that he could obliterate Buu easily and thus Buu would not have had the chance to absorb anyone as he might've not gotten passed Gohan. However, as we saw in the Cell Saga when Gohan went SSJ2, Gohan was toying with Cell and thus it resulted in Cell's backlash and one last stand [ β i ? &sigmaf; δ ? ? σ ][Manchester United vs West Ham United][Gatto, Eshghe man <3] says: against the Z fighters. Gohan's arrogance of a new power grew (i'm making him sound like Vegeta, but nahh. xD) and he toyed with Buu instead finishing him off quickly. It's true, Gohan might've not killed Buu SOO quickly, but at least he could've busted him up way more and stood in his way. The Kais had no anticipated Gohan to not be able to kill Buu with his powers and so, it resulted in Buu [ β i ? &sigmaf; δ ? ? σ ][Manchester United vs West Ham United][Gatto, Eshghe man <3] says: feeding off of more fighters as a source of absorption through power. Nevetheless, Gohan's Mystic powers had the ability to cripple Buu beyond repair. That's just my two cents. __________________

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The Chibi Kiriyama (20) Super Saiyan 2 Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Henderson, Nevada Posts: 1,299 Rep Power: 6	Re: Why didnt the Surpreme Kai warn Gohan? Simple- if anyone else had the power Gohan and Gotenks had and didn't have Saiyan blood, Boo would have been dead from the getgo. Gotenks wrote his own fate through his blind Saiyan pride and drive for fighting. Had anyone else been in his shoes they would have realized that letting Gohan deal with things quick and effortlessly would have been best.

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JammyBleached (22) Super Saiyan 3 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: England, UK Posts: 2,322 Rep Power: 9	Re: Why didnt the Surpreme Kai warn Gohan? Maybe he just couldn't be bothered. He thought "sod it, let them figure it out. I had to. I'm not gonna' give Gohan an advantage." __________________ "Try our Brew and i bet you won't sue!"

12-17-2006	#15 (permalink)
JAIF Moderator Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Piercing the Heavens and stuff. Posts: 5,843 Rep Power: 60	Re: Why didnt the Surpreme Kai warn Gohan? Lol. Kaioshin always suggested the easy way, he told the Z Fighters they should gang on Babidee's minions, he didn't even want to face Majin Buu, but suddenly he doesn't tell Gohan of Buu's absorption because he figures it isn't fair? If we go by that, Buu's absorption isn't fair as well. So Kaioshin wouldn't have any reason not to tell Gohan of the technique. He just didn't know Shin Buu had it as well. __________________ Empty until further notice.