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Old 12-09-2006   #1 (permalink)
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Default Vegito's name: Fake and non-canon

After looking at issue 26/42, I just realised that 'Vegito' was actually called Vegerott. Did anyone else notice this? If so, then I have two questions to ask. Firstly, why did the show call him 'Vegito'? Generally, when the show changes names it's either for 1. A minor character or 2. it's only one letter , but it went from being Vegerott ( which sound like the perfect fusion of Vegeta and Kakarott's names) to being Vegito, which sounds like 'Vegeta', especially when people call him "Vegeto"........ which just replaces Vegeta's name with one letter? Secondly, why do the people who think that Cannon logic is FAR superior to the anime's logic, call themselves 'Vegeto', his non-canon name? I'm not trying to sound like a troll, I'm just curious. If it IS for personal reasons, then you don't need to tell me at all, I don't want to barge into people's personal lives. Eventual thanks when you answer these questions =).
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Default Re: Vegito's name: Fake and non-canon

Vegetto is his canon name. In Japan, they call "Kakarrot," "Kakarrotto," so you get an extra O at the end of it. Thus Vegeta + Kakarrotto = Vegetto.
But since we've constantly called him "Kakarrot" in English, Viz decided to fuse those names together to get a more accurate translation (for our [the English] language). So Vegeta + Kakarrot = Vegerot. However, since I and others try to be as canon as possible, we recognize things like this as a bad mistranslation and use the correct term.
As for why the show called him Vegetto... No idea. Maybe they went by the Japanese?
Anyway, there was another thread about this a while ago, posted by Gozar when the Manga first came out.
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Default Re: Vegito's name: Fake and non-canon

Tyro is 100% correct....it's Viz way of clearning up their lack of O adding, lol.
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Default Re: Vegito's name: Fake and non-canon

If you want to be really assiduous, there is no real correct name for the fused Son Gokou and Bejiita's name outside of 'Bejiitou'. But I consider that a matter of preference. I personally perfer 'Vegerot' as I find it in respect to the name pun that was being acheived, but when I post here I call him 'Vegetto' so people don't flame me on how I'm not being correct to their high-held tradition of reference. Simple as that.
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Default Re: Vegito's name: Fake and non-canon

it is funny though I have seen many forms of vegerot's name. I have seen vegito, veggeto, and the one Kiriyama mentioned. So I guess his name defers on the one who is translating.
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Default Re: Vegito's name: Fake and non-canon

Well, since somehow the translators made the japanese names Bejiita and Kakarroto Vegeta and Kakarrot, the name Bejiito, the original name of the fusion, had to be made Vegerot. Well, sometimes people write Vegetta or Vegita, so the name becomes Vegetto or Vegito or whatever. The original name is Bejiito, the translated name is Vegerot.
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Well, since somehow the translators made the japanese names Bejiita and Kakarroto Vegeta and Kakarrot, the name Bejiito, the original name of the fusion, had to be made Vegerot. Well, sometimes people write Vegetta or Vegita, so the name becomes Vegetto or Vegito or whatever. The original name is Bejiito, the translated name is Vegerot.
Somehow? You make it sound as though they made an illogical mistake. In fact, technically no error occured when they used 'Vegeta' or 'Kakarot' in English printings. "Bejiita" is the closest aproximation that the Japanese language can achieve to 'Vegeta', which is, as you know, a pun on 'Vegetable'. The Japanese language does not include the "V" sound, it is subsitited by "B". (Just as "L" is replaced with "R"). As for "Kakarotto", the "O" at the end is another Japanese language 'oddity', if you will. Their words tend to end in vowels... frequently. The "O" was there for that reason and, aside from Brolly's shouts and Vegetto using it in his name, is otherwise ignored and silent really.
Anyway, to the original poster, yeah. As has been said Viz used "Vegerot" (Vegeta + Kakarot) instead of "Vegetto" (Vegetta + Kakarotto) because they'd been using "Kakarot" as opposed to "Kakarotto" through the course of the Manga. Adding an "O" to it would have.... looked odd to those who didn't know the original.

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I didn't say they made an illogical mistake. Let's just say I'm not a fan of changing the original names, whatever they are.
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fan of changing the original names, whatever they are.
But that's what I mean, though. Technically speaking they weren't changed. Well, ok, Kakarotto is debatable, but Vegeta, Trunks, Cell, etc... weren't changed. Those are their names, even in Japanese. They just can't pronounce the English words they're based on correctly due to lack of the proper sounds in their language and, in some cases, accents.

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Default Re: Vegito's name: Fake and non-canon

The japanese name is Bejiito. The english name is Vegerot. So the japanese name has been changed. How much more simply can that be expressed?
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If the english name is vegerot how come on closed captioning and in the series it's vegito?
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[quote user="SuperVegetto3"]The japanese name is Bejiito. The english name is Vegerot. So the japanese name has been changed. How much more simply can that be expressed?[/quote]


In the Viz translation of the manga, yes, Vegetto's name is changed. But I wasn't talking about Vegetto. And no, the Japanese name is not 'Bejiito'. It's Vegetto, just like in English. I repeat my earlier statement. They don't have the "V" in their language, the "B" is not actually how it's spelled, it's just a 'it sounds kind of like this' replacement character.
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