OberstGeiger

Wasn't Instant Transmission just an increasement of speed several times the speed of light for a brief amount of time? That said, Goku would need an exit. And I am sure that Toriyama did not think of bowels and other openings that Goku could exit out of when he made the manga.....or did he?!

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SaiyajinPerfection

1. true, but you could also ask why Goku didn't go Super Saiyan 3 and bust out of there. I believe it had to do with Buu's magic, and his overall strength/ size over Goku and Vegeta. Goku blew a chi blast up against the inside of Buu's head and Buu said that it felt like a flea bite, nothing more. I would guess that Goku thought that based on their size compared to Buu (or lack there of) and the nearly pointless effect that his attack had on Buu, he figured that Powering up and blowing out of there would be nearly impossible.
Goku can destroy a planet, yes, but a planet doesn't have an active power level unless you talk about utilizing that inactive chi for an attack such as the Genkai Dama. Point aside, Buu has an active defense and attack force, Buu and a planet are quite different.
2. According to the Manga, I think it said that Goku had to focus on a source of chi in order to teleport, unless it is within short distances. And since nearly all life on the planet was destroyed by Buu (and Goku didn't know about the existence of Dende and Satan at that time outside Buu's body,) I doubt he could of. There is also the issue raised that: Is the inside of Buu's body really an alternate dimension? Goku is unable to teleport interdimensionally, because he can't focus on Chi interdimensionally (excluding non-canon fillers and the movies). Which, even though I don't want to start this debate, would present a plot hole during the Cell saga when he teleported Cell to Kaiosama's planet, which is located in the other world (which happens to be another dimension) from what I understand.
**If Buu's body is truly another dimension, busting out of Buu's head was probably like Gotenks creating an interdimensional tear when he and Piccolo excaped from the the Room of Spirit and time with the door destroyed. It can't be done unless you have a rediculous amount of Power, and from what we understand, Goku didn't have nearly enough, even at Super Saiyan 3.

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JAIF

Hm Buu can't defend against anything that is fired from within his body. And the planet is harder to blow up than Buu is, only Buu can regenerate.
About the other dimension... that is kind of an explanation. By the way not an explanation as to why Goku couldn't teleport out of there but as to why Goku and Vegeta seemed so "weak" in there without losing power. For the other dimension thing... yes Goku using pure power cannot break a hole through the dimensions, because SSj3 Gotenks needed to put real effort to do so, but about teleporting... as you said yourself, viewing Goku instantly transmit himself and Cell from Earth to Kaio-sama's planet, which reside in different dimensions, and seeing how it is nowhere stated that Goku's Shunkan Ido cannot move him through the dimensions, I believe even if inside of Buu was an alternate dimension, it doesn't explain why he didn't teleport out of it...

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Tyro

[quote user="SuperVegetto3"]1) Hm what you are implying is that Vegeto was so strong that even as a candy he was stronger than Shin Buu (Gohan prime)... but by Vegeto's own admittion, he was still as strong as ever... so his power didn't decrease at all, in spite of everyone's expectations. So he was special. 2) So? There were Dende and Mr Satan outside, and if I'm not mistaken, Tenshinhan was there alive as well--besides, they could even teleport to the planet of the Kaioshin if they wanted to.[/quote]
No, he wasn't. He retained his strength. What is so amazing about it? Boo didn't suddenly say "How did that happen?!"
So... Different kinds of teleporting.
What are you getting at?

MSGohan

Actually Goku could sense Bulma from Kami's place, when the Bulma had summened the Dragen, he found Bulma's Chi, and uses IT to get to her. So he could sense that low of a PL. He should certainly be able to sense Dende. But beeing inside Buu had probably unknown effects.

LegendaryBroli

I'm thinking he could probably even pick up hercule's pl even though it is very, very low. But if you think about it maybe size does effect goku's abilities and he was shrunk down inside buu's body.

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dragontigerviper

I disagree, as goku says when he returns to earth with trunks, there has to be a significant power, and he has to know where to find it. Denda is so weak that had goku of sat still and serched for a few minutes he may have found him, but even then it is unlikly, Tien had just used the ki-cannon and been taken out by Buu, his power was all but gone, and hercule is... well hercule, he dosn't have much to begin with.
and with the warp to kaioshin's place, recall the serch for a new kami. earth was not near enough to the planet for him to warp there. In fact he had to find kia's planet and get a general estimate as to where it was in order for him to find it. The supream kaishin planet was probally to far off for him to warp to. As for him warping to bulma. he 1) knew the genral location of capslul corp, and 2) is very familar with bulma's chi as opposed to denda whom he has only met once and hercule whom he has only met we also once.
and super 17 are you infering that hercule is weaker then bulma?

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V3g3t0

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1) When Vegeta and Goku were inside Shin Buu why couldn't they destroy
his body? Sure he was a lot bigger than them but Vegeta and Goku in
their natural state could destroy planets. Isn't the amount of energy
you can exert the same no matter the size?
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If they were at the same powerlevel , no matter at what size they would have been , the strength of the blast should have been the same , just that its size would be smaller proportional to his original size and his "smaller than a flea" size . And since the blast didn`t pierce through Super Buu`s body , it means that their powerlevels were reduced .

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2) Why did Vegeta and Goku make so much a fuss about their escape?
Couldn't Goku use Shunkan Ido and teleport them out of Buu's body
instantly?
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Again , the size thing . They didn`t know if they would have regained their size. And don`t bring me the "he couldn`t sense somebody`s ki" . Tien was healed , so he could have concentrated on his ki .

Tyro

[quote user="V3g3t0"]And since the blast didn`t pierce through Super Buu`s body , it means that their powerlevels were reduced .[/quote]
Even if they were at full size, their blasts still wouldn't have pierced through Shin Boo's body. Both Goku and Vegeta were only MSSjs; both forms extremely weaker than Shin Boo's base. The only thing Goku or Vegeta could do to really "pierce" his body would be to use a Kienzan.
And please, there is a 'quote' button. Please use it.

JAIF

But Buu doesn't seem hard to destroy... it's just that he regenerates. Plus, they were inside Buu's body, which meant Buu could put up no defense against their blast. In addition, Goku's blast did pierce a hole through Buu's body, so that means their blasts were strong enough, just not big enough.

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Tyro

[quote user="SuperVegetto3"]But Buu doesn't seem hard to destroy... it's just that he regenerates. Plus, they were inside Buu's body, which meant Buu could put up no defense against their blast. In addition, Goku's blast did pierce a hole through Buu's body, so that means their blasts were strong enough, just not big enough.[/quote]
If he doesn't want something to pierce his body, he wont let it. Like reflecting Ultimate Gohan's blast back at him while he was Shin Boo (Gotenks prime). Sure, if he can't create any kind of defence at all against a attack, I'm sure (minor) damage can be done to his body, but I just don't see it being a major thing playing into this. He doesn't suddenly heal after Goku blasting him. And further more, Goku doesn't make a hole in him.
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V3g3t0

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Even if they were at full size, their blasts still wouldn't have pierced through Shin Boo's body. Both Goku and Vegeta were only MSSjs; both forms extremely weaker than Shin Boo's base. The only thing Goku or Vegeta could do to really "pierce" his body would be to use a Kienzan.

And please, there is a 'quote' button. Please use it.
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Last time I checked Goku sense powerlevels , and since he already sensed Super Buu`s powerlevel , he would know what level he has to be to pierce a hole through Super Buu`s body . That means that if they were at their original size , SSJ Goku would have pierced a hole through Buu .

Tyro

Look at SSj3 Gotenks, then. When he did his mouth blast, he didn't destroy any part of Boo's body. He just scratched his skin. Nothing more.
And again, I ask you. Please post correctly and use the 'quote' button.

V3g3t0

And what does that have to do with our discussion ? We are talking about the fact that Goku didn`t manage to blow a hole through Buu . Since Goku sensed Super Buu`s power , and only used SSJ to blow a hole thorugh him it means that was all it was needed . And no matter at what size , if the strength of the blast is the same , it should make a hole proportional to its size . From this we deduct the fact that his powerlevel was reduced , simple as that .
It doesn`t matter that Gotenks`s blast didn`t manage to blow up Buu , we are talking about Goku only thinking SSJ would be enough to make a hole through Buu , and since it didn`t manage to do it , their powerlevels were reduced .
And what`s wrong with me quoting like that ?

Tyro

The Gotenks attack has to do with our discussion because if even someone as strong as, if not stronger than Shin Boo, can't penetrate Boo's body, how could someone astonishingly weaker do it? Which leads back to my idea of "it woldn't effect him had he actually wanted to stop it."
And further more I don't agree with the idea that Goku and Vegeta lost power.
Your quoting style is annoying. We have boxes that we put quotes in to let others know automatically they're quotes. It's just lazy not to do it properly. They were made for a reason. Please use them.