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The Legendary Super Saiyan.... LegendarySSj7 unleashed
Yes, after many an occasion of plugging at laboring, it is finally unbounded and dislodged - a new listing displayed. Feel free to criticize this list as acridly and trenchantly as you wish at your leisure and sheer whim. I look forward to the extension of what you have to say on the matter. 4 months equates to a lucidly lengthy time. So, without further ado......
Saiyan Saga Arc Volume 1  Raditz - 1,255 Farmer - 5 Son Goku - 334 [without weighted clothes] - 416 [preparing Kamehameha] - 924 (and rising) Piccolo - 322 [without weighted clothes] - 408 [Makankosappo] - 1,330 Son Gohan - 1 [Distressed] - 710 [Enraged] - 1,307 <hr size="1"> Volume 2 Piccolo - 329 Kuririn - 206 Tenshinhan - 250 Muten-Roshi - 139 Yamcha - 177  Piccolo [suppressed reading] - 1,220 [unsuppressed] - 2,200 Kuririn [suppressed reading] - 1,083 [unsuppressed] - 1,800 Son Gohan [suppressed reading] - 981 [enraged, Masenko] - 2,800 Yamcha - 1,500 Tenshinhan - 1,900 Chaozu - 600 Cultivars - 1,255 Volume 3/4 Nappa [powered up] - 4,000 [full power] - 7,800 Vegeta - 16,600  Son Goku [suppressed] - 5,000 [powered up] - 8,300 [Kaiġ-ken] - 16,600 Vegeta - 16,600 [full power] - 18,750 [Gyarikku-Ho] - 31,000 [post-Kaiġ-ken x4] - 14,000 [post-Power Ball] - 9,250 [Oozaru] - 92,500 [post-Genki Dama] - 2,300 Son Goku - 8,300 [Kaiġ-ken] - 16,600 [Kaiġ-ken x3] - 24,900 [Kaiġ-ken x3, Kamehameha] - 31,000 [Kaiġ-ken x4, Kamehameha] - 41,000 [Genki Dama] - 60,000 [What was left of it] - 16,000 Son Gohan - 1,500 [enraged] - 6,600 [weakened] - 400 [Oozaru] - 4,000 Yajirobe - 380 Namek Saga Arc Volume 5 Son Gohan & Kuririn - 1,500 Freeza's Soldiers - 500 Vegeta (powered up) - 24,000 Kiwi - 18,000 Volume 6/7/8 Namekian Warriors (suppressed) - 1,000 Namekian Warriors (full power) - 3,000 Vegeta - 24,000 [nigh-death augmentation] - 29,500 Dodoria - 20,000 Zarbon - 22,000 [transformed] - 28,800 [weakened] - 24,500  Kuririn [hidden power unlocked] - 11,000 Son Gohan [hidden power awakened] - 12,000 Vegeta [full power] - 32,000 [rapid chi blasts] - 37,500 Gurd - 4,500 Reacoom - 45,000 Son Goku [suppressed] - 5,000 [actual base level] - 90,000 [prolonged Kaiġ-ken demonstration] - 180,000 Butta - 45,000 Jheese - 45,000 Captain Ginyu - 84,000 [stated full power] - 120,000 Nail - 42,000 Freeza [suppressed] - 230,000 Volume 9/10/11 Ginyu [post-body switching, in Son Goku's body] - 23,000 Son Gohan - 27,000 Kuririn - 24,000 Vegeta - 200,000 Jheese - 45,000 Freeza [3rd suppression, full power] - 530,000 Vegeta [full power] - 480,000 Son Gohan - 40,000 Kuririn - 30,000 Freeza [2nd suppression] - 1,060,000 [powered up] - 1,250,000 Son Gohan [enraged] - 940,000 [nigh-death augmentation] - 92,500 Piccolo [post-assimilation with Nail] - 1,275,000 [weighted clothes off] - 1,575,000 Freeza [2nd suppression, powered up] - 1,250,000 [2nd suppression, full power] - 1,400,000  Freeza [1st suppression] - 2,500,000 Piccolo [weighted clothes off] - 1,575,000 Son Gohan [enraged, full power] - 2,200,000 Freeza - 3,800,000 Vegeta [nigh-death augmentation] - 2,700,000 Son Goku - 3,800,000 [Kaiġ-ken] - 7,600,000 Freeza [50% of full power] - 88,750,000 Son Goku [Kaiġ-ken x10] - 38,000,000 Son Goku [Kaiġ-ken x20] - 76,000,000 Son Goku [Kaiġ-ken x20 Kamehameha] - 88,750,000 Son Goku [Genki Dama] - 100,000,000  Son Goku [Super Saiyajin] - 190,000,000 Freeza [50% of full power, wounded] - 80,000,000 Freeza [70% of full power] - 124,250,000 Freeza [100% of full power] - 177,500,000 Son Goku [Super Saiyajin, Kamehameha] - 290,000,000 Freeza [100% of full power, force field] - 290,000,000 Freeza [100% of full power, "chi dropping fast"] - 152,000,000 Cell Saga Arc Volume 12 Freeza [Cyborg, suppressed, roughly 2%] - 4,400,000 [theoretical full power] - 220,000,000 King Cold - 4,200,000  Trunks [suppressed reading] - 5 [actual base level] - 4,800,000 [Super Saiyajin] - 220,000,000 Son Goku - 5,000,000 [Super Saiyajin] - 240,000,000 Volume 13 Yamcha - 60,000 Son Goku - 15,000,000 [with heart virus] - 1,900,000(and waning) Son Goku [Super Saiyajin] - 340,000,000 [with heart virus] - 44,000,000 (and waning) #19 - 37,500,000 [post-Kamehameha absorption] - 55,000,000 [Goku's Chi drained] - 55,100,000 [Super Saiyajin Vegeta's Chi drained] - 180,100,000 Vegeta - 20,000,000 [Super Saiyajin] - 370,000,000 [Chi drained] - 245,000,000 [Big Bang] - 510,000,000 [Chi drained, Base] - 13,000,000 Piccolo - 230,000,000 [chi drained] - 185,000,000 [without weighted clothes] - 290,000,000 #20 - 57,500,000 [Yamcha's chi drained] - 57,560,000 [Super Saiyajin Vegeta's chi blast absorbed] - 175,060,000 [Piccolo's Chi drained] - 220,060,000 Son Gohan - 4,000,000  Volume 14 #18 [holding back] - 397,500,000 [not holding back] - 520,000,000 Vegeta [Super Saiyajin] - 370,000,000 [Big Bang Attack] - 430,000,000 Trunks - 14,000,000 [Super Saiyajin] - 310,000,000 #17 - 750,000,000 Piccolo - 290,000,000 Tenshinhan - 80,000 Kuririn - 110,000 Volume 15 Piccolo [complete, powered up] - 525,000,000 Cell - 467,500,000 Cell [Kamehameha] - 510,000,000  Piccolo [without weighted clothes] - 660,000,000 Piccolo [full power] - 750,000,000 [full force blast] - 990,000,000 #17 - 750,000,000 Cell [post-human draining, powered up] - 1,222,500,000 [Stage 2] - 2,000,000,000 #16 - 1,222,500,000 [Inferno Blast] - 1,525,000,000 Tenshinhan [Neo Ki-ko-hô]: 2,000,000,000  Volume 16/17  Vegeta [post-RoSaT training] - 210,000,000 [Super Saiyajin, post-RoSaT training] - 2,100,000,000 [Super Saiyajin 2nd Grade] - 4,200,000,000 Trunks [post-RoSaT training] - 200,000,000 [Super Saiyajin, post-RoSaT training] - 2,000,000,000 [Super Saiyajin 2nd Grade] - 4,000,000,000 Cell [Stage 2] - 2,000,000,000 [Stage 2, full power] - 3,000,000,000  Cell [complete] - 6,500,000,000 [unstable body mass level demonstration] - 9,600,000,000 Vegeta [Super Saiyajin 2nd Grade] - 4,200,000,000 [Final Flash] - 8,500,000,000 Trunks [Super Saiyajin 3rd Grade] - 6,000,000,000 [full power] - 8,000,000,000  Son Goku [Mastered Super Saiyajin, half of full power] - 6,300,000,000 Trunks: 45,000 [Super Saiyajin]: 2,250,000 Son Gohan: 2,500,000 [Super Saiyajin]: 125,000,000 Trunks [3 years later]: 3,000,000 [Super Saiyajin, 3 years later]: 150,000,000 #17 [less than half power]: 112,500,000 #17: 360,000,000 #18: 325,000,000 Volume 18/19  Son Goku [Mastered Super Saiyajin] - 6,300,000,000 [full power] - 12,600,000,000 [Shunkan Idou Kamehameha] - 28,000,000,000 [post-Kamehameha] - 9,000,000,000 Cell [complete] - 6,500,000,000 [powered up] - 14,700,000,000 [post-regeneration] - 9,750,000,000 Son Gohan [Mastered Super Saiyajin, full power] - 16,000,000,000 Cell's Juniors - 7,200,000,000 Vegeta [post-2nd RoSaT training] - 360,000,000 [Super Saiyajin, post-2nd RoSaT training] - 3,600,000,000 [Super Saiyajin 2nd Grade, post-RoSaT training] - 7,200,000,000 Trunks [post-2nd RoSaT training] - 340,000,000 [Super Saiyajin, post-2nd RoSaT training] - 3,400,000,000 [Super Saiyajin 2nd Grade, post-RoSaT training] - 6,800,000,000 Piccolo [post-RoSaT training] - 4,100,000,000 [weighted clothes removed] - 5,000,000,000 Son Goku [Mastered Super Saiyajin, exhausted] - 4,000,000,000 [and declining]  Son Gohan [Super Saiyajin 2] - 190,000,000,000 [Kamehameha] - 290,000,000,000 [injured] - 95,000,000,000 [Kamehameha] - 190,000,000,000 [fully unleashed Kamehameha] - 287,500,000,000 Cell's Juniors - 7,200,000,000 Cell [complete, full power] - 45,000,000,000 Cell [complete, full power Kamehameha] - 135,000,000,000 Cell [complete, unstable body mass level] - 63,000,000,000 Cell [complete, post-regeneration, Super Saiyajin 2] - 190,000,000,000 [Kamehameha] - 230,000,000,000 Trunks - 340,000,000 [Super Saiyajin] - 3,400,000,000 [3 years later] - 700,000,000 [Mastered Super Saiyajin] - 3,500,000,000 #17 - 360,000,000 #18 - 325,000,000 Cell - 480,000,000 [powered up] - 970,000,000 Boo Saga Arc Volume 20 Son Gohan [relaxed or "Great Saiyaman"] - 1,350,000,000 [Mastered Super Saiyajin, minimal effort] - 6,750,000,000 Son Goten - 1,100,000,000 [Mastered Super Saiyajin] - 5,500,000,000 Vegeta - 4,600,000,000 [Mastered Super Saiyajin] - 23,000,000,000 Chibi Trunks - 1,150,000,000 [Mastered Super Saiyajin] - 5,750,000,000 Son Goku - 5,400,000,000 [Mastered Super Saiyajin] - 27,000,000,000 Volume 21 Son Goten - 1,250,000,000 [Mastered Super Saiyajin] - 6,250,000,000 Chibi Trunks - 1,300,000,000 [Mastered Super Saiyajin] - 6,500,000,000  Spopovitch - 4,250 Videl - 45 Yamu - 4,250 Son Gohan - 2,500,000,000 [Mastered Super Saiyajin] - 12,500,000,000 [Super Saiyajin 2] - 150,000,000,000 Volume 22 Vegeta - 5,700,000,000 Pui Pui - 26,000 Yakon - 8,500,000,000 Son Goku - 6,400,000,000 [Mastered Super Saiyajin] - 32,000,000,000 #18 - 520,000,000 "Mighty Mask" - 440,000,000 [Mastered Super Saiyajin] - 2,200,000,000 Super Saiyajin Son Gohan - 12,500,000,000 Dabra - 13,475,000,000 Mastered Super Saiyajin Vegeta - 28,500,000,000 [Possessed] - 32,000,000,000 [Possessed, Super Saiyajin 2] - 225,000,000,000 Mastered Super Saiyajin Son Goku - 32,000,000,000 [Super Saiyajin 2] - 225,000,000,000  Volume 23 Majin Boo - 12,000,000,000 [powered up] - 280,000,000,000 [enraged] - 460,000,000,000 Possessed Vegeta [Super Saiyan 2] - 225,000,000,000 [Massive Explosion] - 500,000,000,000 Volume 24 Son Goku - 6,400,000,000 [Mastered Super Saiyajin] - 32,000,000,000 [Super Saiyajin 2] - 225,000,000,000 [Super Saiyajin 3] - 675,000,000,000 Gotenks - 145,000,000,000 [Super Saiyajin] - 725,000,000,000  Boo of Innocence - 280,000,000,000 Boo of Wrath - 420,000,000,000 Boo of Evil - 2,700,000,000,000 Volume 25 Gotenks [post-RoSaT training] - 190,000,000,000 [Mastered Super Saiyajin] - 950,000,000,000 [Super Saiyain 3] - 2,850,000,000,000  Ultimate Son Gohan - 3,700,000,000,000 Boo of Evil - 2,700,000,000,000 [Gotenks prime] - 5,550,000,000,000 [Piccolo prime] - 2,702,000,000,000 [Gohan prime] - 6,400,000,000,000 Volume 26 Vegetto - 7,800,000,000,000 [Mastered Super Saiyajin] - 39,000,000,000,000 The Original Boo - 540,000,000,000 Super Saiyajin 3 Son Goku - 675,000,000,000 Vegeta - 5,700,000,0000 [Super Saiyajin 2] - 200,000,000,000 Boo of Innocence - 280,000,000,000 Son Goku [Genki Dama] - 1,100,000,000,000 Son Goku [10 years later] - 18,000,000,000 Oob - 10 [ire raised] - 18,000,000,000 Movie 5 / The Incredible Mightiest vs. Mightiest / Cooler's Revenge  Son Goku - 4,750,000 [healed] - 6,000,000 [Kaioken x10] - 60,000,000 [Kaioken x20] - 120,000,000 [Kaioken x20 Kamehameha] - 150,000,000 [Super Saiyajin] - 300,000,000 [Kamehameha] - 375,000,000 Son Gohan - 140,000 Kuririn - 50,000 Piccolo - 3,000,000 [without weighted clothes] - 3,800,000 Sauza - 425,000 Dore - 210,000 Neizu - 340,000 Coola - 5,750,000 [Transformed] - 200,000,000 [Deathball] - 300,000,000 Movie 6 / Clash!! 10,000,000,000 Powerful Warriors/ Return of Cooler  Son Goku - 8,750,000 [Kaio-ken x20] - 175,000,000 [Super Saiyajin] - 320,000,000 Vegeta - 8,000,000 [Super Saiyajin] - 290,000,000 Piccolo - 200,000,000 [without weighted clothes] - 250,000,000 Son Gohan - 3,000,000 Kuririn - 100,000 Meta Coola - 262,500,000 [Repaired] - 420,000,000 Movie 7 / Extreme Battle!! The Three Great Super Saiyans / Super Android #13  Son Goku - 15,000,000 [Super Saiyajin] - 340,000,000 [Genki Dama] - 1,750,000,000 Vegeta - 14,000,000 [Super Saiyajin] - 310,000,000 Trunks - 13,000,000 [Super Saiyajin] - 280,000,000 Piccolo - 210,000,000 [without weighted clothes] - 260,000,000 Son Gohan - 4,000,000 Kuririn - 110,000 #15 - 280,000,000 #14 - 250,000,000 #13 - 340,000,000 [#15 and #14's CPU chips absorbed] - 870,000,000 Movie 8 / Burn Up!! A Close, Intense, Super-Fierce Battle / Broly: The Legendary Super Saiyan  Son Goku - 110,000,000 [Super Saiyajin] - 2,200,000,000 [Given Chi] - 11,500,000,000 Son Gohan - 82,500,000 [Super Saiyajin] - 1,650,000,000 Trunks - 82,500,000 [Super Saiyajin] - 1,650,000,000 Vegeta - 82,500,000 [Super Saiyajin] - 1,650,000,000 Piccolo - 1,050,000,000 [without weighted clothes] - 1,350,000,000 Broli - 12,000,000 [ire raised] - 24,000,000 [Super Saiyan] - 3,300,000,000 [Super Saiyan Type 3] - 6,600,000,000 Paragus - 1,100 Movie 9 / The Galaxy at the Brink!! The Super Incredible Guy / Bojack Unbound  Son Gohan - 3,200,000,000 [Super Saiyajin] - 16,000,000,000 [Super Saiyajin 2] - 190,000,000,000 Mirai Trunks - 675,000,000 [Super Saiyajin] - 6,750,000,000 Vegeta - 720,000,000 [Super Saiyajin] - 7,200,000,000 Piccolo - 4,100,000,000 [weighted clothes off] - 5,000,000,000 Yamcha - 60,000 Kuririn - 110,000 Bojack - 17,500,000,000 [Transformed] - 36,000,000,000 Gokua - 740,000,000 [Transformed] - 1,350,000,000 Zangya - 13,500,000,000 Bujin - 15,000,000,000 Bido - 14,250,000,000 Movie 12 / Rebirth of Fusion!! Goku and Vegeta / Fusion Reborn  Son Goku - 6,400,000,000 [Super Saiyajin] - 32,000,000,000 [Super Saiyajin 3] - 675,000,000,000 Vegeta - 5,700,000,000 [Super Saiyajin 2] - 200,000,000,000 Janemba - 40,000,000,000 [Fighter Form] - 950,000,000,000 Son Goten - 1,250,000,000 [Super Saiyajin] - 6,250,000,000 Chibi Trunks - 1,300,000,000 [Super Saiyajin] - 6,500,000,000 Son Gohan - 2,500,000,000 Freeza - 88,750,000 Super Saiyajin Gotenks - 725,000,000,000 Super Saiyajin Gogeta - 1,800,000,000,000 Movie 13 / Dragon Fist Explosion!! If Goku Can't Do It, Who Will?/ Wrath of the Dragon  Son Goku - 6,000,000,000 [Super Saiyajin 2] - 225,000,000,000 [Super Saiyajin 3] - 67,500,000,000,000 [Ryu-Ken] - 120,000,000,000,000 Super Saiyajin 3 Gotenks - 2,850,000,000,000 Ultimate Gohan - 950,000,000,000 Vegeta - 5,700,000,000 [Super Saiyajin 2] - 200,000,000,000 Son Goten - 1,250,000,000 [Super Saiyajin] - 6,250,000,000 Chibi Trunks - 1,300,000,000 [Super Saiyajin] - 6,500,000,000 Hildergarn - 712,500,000,000 [Lower half in place] - 1,425,000,000,000 [Revealed] - 6,000,000,000,000 Resistance to Despair!! The Remaing Super-Warriors, Gohan and Trunks / History of Trunks  Gohan: 7,500,000 [Super Saiyajin] - 300,000,000 [Impairment] - 7,500,000 [Super Saiyajin] - 300,000,000 #17 - 360,000,000 #18 - 325,000,000 Trunks: 1,400,000 [Super Saiyajin] - 70,000,000 [3 years later] - 4,200,000 [Super Saiyajin] - 190,000,000
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Re: The Legendary Super Saiyan.... LegendarySSj7 unleashed
A great list really. Glad you did some of the movie powerlevels.
I believe you missed a few zeros for the Boo of Evil and Ultimate Gohan. Was Vegeta a Super Saiyan 2 in movie 12 and did Future Trunks master Super Saiyan? 10/10 even better pictures |
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[quote user="Zer0"]Was Vegeta a Super Saiyan 2 in movie 12 and did Future Trunks master Super Saiyan?[/quote]
1.) It's a debatable that's in intrigue. I just don't find Vegeta faring as well as he did against Janemba if he was accessing Super Saiyan 1, and you know how inconsistent TOEI is - SSj2s with unbolted auras and bolts of lightning not dancing around said aura, or not consistently. But his defeat was still impending along the horizon. 2.) Perhaps. Look at the panel where Trunks flares up his own aura against Mirai Cell in Volume 35 / 19 (Z Era) - it's a fierce aura of forks of flame and not of the normal rendition, basically equaling the MSSj aura off we see MSSj Goku and Gohan at full power, as well as Complete Cell and the Boo Saga Arc SSjs later on, wield and display (though Complete Cell's full capacity aura input is imbursed and relapses into a whole other realm, not peculated but unsurmounted by even many a Boo Saga Arc Saiyan). Thanks for the 10/10.
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I only have a few objections.
1. You misspelled "Butta" as "Batta."  2. Do you not believe the 50 times multiplier for the SSj stage should be used on Goku's (post-Kaio-ken x20 Kamehameha) power level (whatever that may be for you)? Son Gohan: "D-Dad's ki... It shrank..." Son Goku: "I am losing my strength... fast... The...The 20-fold Kaio-ken was too much... for me... *huf* *huf*" |
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I only have a few objections. 1. You misspelled "Butta" as "Batta." 2. Do you not believe the 50 times multiplier for the SSj stage should be used on Goku's (post-Kaio-ken x20 Kamehameha) power level (whatever that may be for you)? Son Gohan: "D-Dad's ki... It shrank..." Son Goku: "I am losing my strength... fast... The...The 20-fold Kaio-ken was too much... for me... *huf* *huf*" [/quote] Well, Goku's chi was depleting as the resulting effect of the Kaio-ken x20 would have, but I'm of the belief that after the Super Saiyan transformation, Goku was completely rejuvenated and imbursed in those golden waves of flame rising high above him and dancing around as well as the power increase and aura input and no less (and even then, imagine if he went to SSj when as vigorous as ever? And then actively putting an end to Freeza?). So yes, I would say his base was not a pilfered stride away from around 3,000,000 - 4,000,000 at said point.
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[quote user="LegendarySSj7"] [quote user="Zer0"]Was Vegeta a Super Saiyan 2 in movie 12 and did Future Trunks master Super Saiyan?[/quote]
1.) It's a debatable that's in intrigue. I just don't find Vegeta faring as well as he did against Janemba if he was accessing Super Saiyan 1, and you know how inconsistent TOEI is - SSj2s with unbolted auras and bolts of lightning not dancing around said aura, or not consistently. But his defeat was still impending along the horizon. 2.) Perhaps. Look at the panel where Trunks flares up his own aura against Mirai Cell in Volume 35 / 19 (Z Era) - it's a fierce aura of forks of flame and not of the normal rendition, basically equaling the MSSj aura off we see MSSj Goku and Gohan at full power, as well as Complete Cell and the Boo Saga Arc SSjs later on, wield and display (though Complete Cell's full capacity aura input is imbursed and relapses into a whole other realm, not peculated but unsurmounted by even many a Boo Saga Arc Saiyan). Thanks for the 10/10. [/quote] 1. I actually remember dicsussing this with you on one of your earlier power sheets. I thought Vegeta was a Super Saiyan 2 because for only a moment their was some lightening dancing around him. 2. I was actually thinking of posting a topic on this when I aquired that volume a few days ago, looks like you beat me to the punch. Your welcome, you completely deserve a ten out of ten it is the best power sheet I've seen on the forum. |
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[quote user="Carazo"]This one is pretty much based on a personal view, But when Gotenks get’s serious in the last pages, Boo can’t barely defense himself and it Gotenks is hit, it’s do his immature. I would put him at 3,200,000,000,000[/quote]Both Piccolo as well as Chibi Trunks conceded on many an occasion that Shin Boo might not have come to grips with the fact that SSj3 Gotenks was his equal. But at said point you're referencing, to give some light as to that, I feel Boo was just overwhelmed at battle's end. But for most of bout in question, no one real fighter had a rather raucous advantage, if any to speak of that was base in nature. And Gotenk's techniques weren't even moreso remote in usage on his part. But not that it would be enough to be stupefyingly or amazingly strong by comparison, if stronger, or overwhelmingly kill him, if kill him.
[quote user="Carazo"]Gogeta stronger than Vegetto?[/quote]A debatable aside in that subject of circumstance to fix around that I would be in agreeance with... three zeros too many for the public at large, it would seem. 
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Yajirobe - 380
I believe he was a little bit stronger than that. Just personal opinion Butta - 45,000 Jheese - 45,000 Well... seeing how eagerly they jumped into battle despite the fact that Recoom had been beaten so easily... I would place them more at 50,000ish #19 - 37,500,000 [post-Kamehameha absorption] - 55,000,000 [Goku's Chi drained] - 55,100,000 I would place #19 a little bit stronger, and reduce a bit the energy the android received from the Kamehameha, while increase the energy it received from draining Son Goku directly. Goku had already received a senzu bean, so I believe #19 could have drained off a couple of millions from him. Vegeta - 20,000,000 Why is the difference between Vegeta (base) and Goku (base) that much? I'd place him closer... maybe even on equal footing with Goku... at 17,000,000 at most. Same goes for his Super Saiya-jinn form. [Big Bang] - 510,000,000 Given Vegeta didn't take the time to charge his ki into the attack (as Goku usually does with the Kamehameha), I wouldn't even place the Big Bang Attack higher than Vegeta's maximum ki energy. Piccolo - 230,000,000 [chi drained] - 185,000,000 [without weighted clothes] - 290,000,000 Isn't it weird that Piccolo's power increased so much over the three years? I'm not questioning the power level in question as it is most probably true, with Piccolo surpassing the Super Saiya-jinns Goku and Trunks 3 years earlier... but it still seems "unnatural". Trunks - 14,000,000 [Super Saiyajin] - 310,000,000 Shouldn't he be a little stronger during that point, perhaps? I mean he must have trained in the future... Tenshinhan [Neo Ki-ko-hô]: 2,000,000,000 ?? How powerful was Neo Ki-ko-ho? It surpassed the Super Saiyans, Piccolo, Android 16, even Cell? Tenshinhan only manage to just immobilize Cell after firing many Neo Ki-ko-hos one after the other... and that was probably due to the force of the attack and not its power value... Vegeta [Super Saiyajin 2nd Grade] - 4,200,000,000 [Final Flash] - 8,500,000,000 Trunks [Super Saiyajin 3rd Grade] - 6,000,000,000 [full power] - 8,000,000,000 Shouldn't Vegeta's Final Flash be below the level of power Mirai Trunks (Ultra Super Saiya-jinn) was exerting? I mean Cell seemed pretty sure that Trunks could defeat him (if this level was his real power), if only he could hit him. But he managed to regenerate from Vegeta's Final Flash. [post-Kamehameha] - 9,000,000,000 I believe Goku was weaker than that after the Kamehameha... I believe he dropped at half power, maybe even below Son Goku [Mastered Super Saiyajin] - 6,300,000,000 [full power] - 12,600,000,000 Son Gohan [Mastered Super Saiyajin, full power] - 16,000,000,000 The same argument we had a while ago... anyway. But there is something else here. I do not believe Son Gohan exerted full power against Cell during their fight-mainly because of his hesitancy to fight. Cell's Juniors - 7,200,000,000 Definately above that... I don't see how you would place them equal to Ascended Super Saiya-jinn Vegeta, since he was pretty much pummeled by them after they got a little bit serious. Son Goten - 1,250,000,000 [Mastered Super Saiyajin] - 6,250,000,000 Chibi Trunks - 1,300,000,000 [Mastered Super Saiyajin] - 6,500,000,000 Isn't that too much for them at base form? I feel they weren't nowhere near equal to Android 16 in base form, since they needed the Super Saiya-jinn forms to gain a decisive upperhand against Android 18. Spopovitch - 4,250 Videl - 45 Yamu - 4,250 Shouldn't Yamu be a bit above Spopovitch? The latter seemed to take commands from Yamu... Possibly I'd place Yamu at 4,750... And isn't Videl too high for the average human? I'd place her at 14 and Mr Satan / Hercule at 10. I mean none of them are shown to be able to fight at the level chibi Goku fought at the early Dragonball. Yakon - 8,500,000,000 Son Goku - 6,400,000,000 Why? Didn't Son Goku easily punch Yakon around, even though he couldn't see him? He just transformed into a Super Saiya-jinn to make Yakon implode from his energy, possibly in an attempt to make Babi-dee realize their power. Dabra - 13,475,000,000 Indeed the gap between the demon and the Super Saiya-jinns Goku and Vegeta makes no sense, as Dabra had seen the power of the Super Saiya-jinn Goku and yet seemed confident he could win all the three Saiya-jinns together. But otherwise it disregards the statement about Son Gohan having waned in power due to lack of training... so I'll leave it at that. Gotenks - 145,000,000,000 I feel Gotenks was a little bit above SSj 2 Goku and SSj 2 Majin Vegeta. He was shown to fare generally better when fighting Buu than SSj 2 Majin Vegeta. Son Goku [10 years later] - 18,000,000,000 Oob - 10 [ire raised] - 18,000,000,000 Don't you feel Son Goku should be placed above Uub after the 10-year gap? Uub was able to cause pain to Goku, and with some attacks bent him to his knees, but I believe Goku could overwhelm him if he exerted full effort. Just a personal thought. Vegetto - 7,800,000,000,000 [Mastered Super Saiyajin] - 39,000,000,000,000 Super Saiyajin Gogeta - 1,150,000,000,000 How can Vegeto in base form be around 7 times more powerful than Gogeta in Super Saiyan form? It makes no sense... how much more powerful can the Potara Earrings fusion be than the Fusion Dance technique? I feel Vegeto should be placed a little lower, possibly at the level of Shin Buu (Gohan prime)-if we go by the manga, and Super Saiya-jinn Gogeta a lot higher... Of course neither Super Saiya-jinn Gogeta nor Super Saiya-jinn Vegeto were shown to have a limit to their power, so we can't be totally accurate. But placing Gogeta SSj much lower than Vegeto base seems the least strange to me The importance of the points mentioned above is rather puny when compared to the list as a whole, and the listing is overall one of the best I've met, possibly the closest to truth, taking into consideration the given by Akira Toriyama power levels... Well, I'm not really a grading fan, especially when it concerns a work of that extent, but if I must... for the points mentioned above, and from some other issues concerning some multipliers, I rate it... 8.5/10
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