SS2 Vegeto

Even better than your last one. Any problems I'd have with it, you'd already know.

9.5/10

I believe you have the Fat Buu's highest level of power at something lower than Chibi Buu...error, deliberate omission, or forgot to add one?

As well, I always envisioned a bigger gap between SSJ3 Goku and Chibi Buu.

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Vito

very good list leyendary but....... why havent you anwsered carazos questions?

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SuperTien

Very nice list. I have one question.
Why do you put the humans so weak during the cell saga?
If the humans where that weak , how could they possibly make a difference against Cell in the billions?
Why would they even go, I know they are brave but they would just get in the way.
I think they could keep up a little better than below 100,000 . Even yamcha .
nice chart- i give it a 9 out 10 . good work.

LegendarySSJ7

[quote user="SuperTien"]Why do you put the humans so weak during the cell saga?
If the humans where that weak , how could they possibly make a difference against Cell in the billions?

Why would they even go, I know they are brave but they would just get in the way.

I think they could keep up a little better than below 100,000 . Even yamcha .[/quote]

...One word: Bukujutsu. Note how any combatant a stride away from Freeza in his true form and Goku at base but above 10,000 exhibits an 'intense flame aura', and anyone of Freeza in his true form's tier or higher projects a 'fuzzy aura' (but around Freeza's 2nd stage fluctuates between the two aura types in question) - we see Gohan, Piccolo, as well as base Trunks exhibit this aura in the Cell Saga Arc. Yet we see Kuririn, Tenshinhan, and Yamcha still project an 'intense flame' aura - meaning they'd be propitious to be on equal footing with Captain Ginyu, really.



[quote user="vito"]very good list leyendary but....... why havent you anwsered carazos questions?[/quote]

I requited his questions. His last post stated what's in his eyes and nothing more, and there's nothing more for me to requite.

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SuperTien

So why do you make krillin stronger than tien?

LegendarySSJ7

[quote user="SuperTien"]So why do you make krillin stronger than tien?[/quote]

...Because Kuririn is stronger than Tenshinhan. Kuririn was already no place below 23,000 (and due to the Saichorou unlocking, by Vegeta's own admittion in Volume 25 / (Z Era) 9, Page 100: "None of you seemed to have realized...how these Earthling's battle strength keep rising! The young one has powers in him he can't even dream of!"... not a statement I'd rebuke, but after the accounts I'd say the impact of it wasn't muted, but augmented), and Tenshinhan wouldn't have been above 10,000 just by training with Kaio-sama for 1 year and 260 days, considering it would have been even less of a relatively effectual increase considering how Goku's battle power, even unweighted, was a very long stride away from Tenshinhan's upon training on Kaio-sama's planet, and he was barely above 8,000 when all was said and done.
Go ahead and contest that Tenshinhan survived a bout with #17 and 'Incomplete' Cell in his 2nd form (as well as transiently disabling Cell through the Neo Ki-ko-hô and its amount of output in tandem), but the Kuririn of this time survived a single hit from Complete Cell (though in the most suppressed state we see him in).

And that speaks volumes for itself.

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SuperTien

So what do you think Piccolo was after he was wished back on namek?
He hardly did anything on king kaio's planet.
So he was really weak
until he fused with nail .
And he was not on kaiosama planet for long.
So nail (42,000) plus piccolo (?)= 1,000,000
How do you tihnk namekian fusion works?
Iam not being a smartass , I just actually always wondered this and you are one of the best people to talk to aobut this.
because piccolo gets a massive powerlevel bust from the fusion with nail
So Then how do you think Kami fusing with piccolo works?
, thanks super tien

LegendarySSJ7

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SS2 Vegeto

Yeah, I'm still kind of confused (and left in suspense) as to this point. =/

[quote user="SS2 Vegeto"]

I believe you have the Fat Buu's highest level of power at something lower than Chibi Buu...error, deliberate omission, or forgot to add one?

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OberstGeiger

Not sure if this has been asked, but what about the other movies? You're the elite when it comes to this so I see it fitting that you be the one to come up with the rest of the movie power levels. All in all, I say its fantastic.

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LegendarySSJ7

Truth be told? Can't say my interest was roused for the other movies in question (not a length away from the reason as to why I didn't do a listing for GT, but GT Logic + Plotholes + ETC also lead to the finality and such), but for the sake of it I might as well do my own listings for Movie 6, 7, and 8, and 13 (since I have some interest in said movies... well, no, not that 8 elicits my interest, but that I find it worth doing to clear up some confusion stemming from other issues no place near to the rebound topic of discussion).
EDIT: Done. Whatever lapses into my interpretation without doddering and tottering resides my listing as of right now.

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Gangsta SabZ

Vegitto was a mastered super saiya-jin? Was that stated? If not, then either his power level should be lowered, or Gojita's power levels should be lifted. The difference between the two is not that great.
Everything else is almost perfect, from my quick-scanning perspective.

Carazo

I want to come back on Ten Shin Han’s power.
First of all, we cannot say that something is a fact when it isn’t stated.
According to your power levels

Saiya-jin Arc

Tenshinhan -250
Piccolo 408

After a year;

Tenshinhan- 1,900Piccolo[suppressed reading] - 1,220
[unsuppressed] - 2,200So according to you Ten Shin Han would need 1 year and 260 days to come to the same level for which Piccolo needed 6 days to reach? It’s a much harder training than Goku did, which was much more focussed on increasing there power than on learning new techniques like the Kaio-ken or Genki Dama. At least that’s the only conclusion that I can take from what I have seen/ know of Piccolo after that training, and since Ten Shin Han does the same training…

LegendarySSJ7

[quote user="Gangsta SabZ"]Vegitto was a mastered super saiya-jin? Was that stated?[/quote]


This wasn't of my own volition. I made the attempt. By the Boo Saga Arc, every Saiyan we see is a Mastered Super Saiyan and for two fused-MSSjs (hinting to Goku and Vegeta, of course) through the Portora earings not to be one would be rather odd and aberrant, not to posit such in my recollection.





[quote user="Carazo"]First of all, we cannot say that something is a fact when it isn’t stated.[/quote]Not to be acrimonious, but said facts and the resulting events on the matter that I've, on many a thread, detailed out are proof enough.





[quote user="Carazo"]So
according to you Ten Shin Han would need 1 year and 260 days to come to
the same level for which Piccolo needed 6 days to reach? It’s
a much harder training than Goku did, which was much more focussed on
increasing there power than on learning new techniques like the
Kaio-ken or Genki Dama. At least that’s the only conclusion that I can
take from what I have seen/ know of Piccolo after that training, and
since Ten Shin Han does the same training…[/quote]I'm saying that there was an established preset limit to Kaio-sama's planet's laboring (figurative) and the amount of 'output' or 'power', as you will, gained on it. Tenshinhan, especially considering how ineffectual the 10x gravity would be by comparison and looking at their battle powers of the time they trained, would not have had a Goku-scale increase. And Goku was very apparently focused on 'increasing' his 'power'. That he wouldn't be is a rather conflicting statement (and jarring, for that matter) in any sense of the word.

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