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14 vs cooler
13 vs meta cooler(post regeneration) 15 vs meta cooler(pre regeneration) android 20(post energy) vs frieza android 19(post energy) vs frieza 13 vs mecha frieza(100%) 18 vs 14 & 15 16 vs super 13 20 vs 19(both post energy) 20 & 19 vs 14 who wins these battles |
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(25) Kami of Earth
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1. Cooler with Supernova/Death Ball
2. Meta Cooler 3. Meta Cooler, barely 4. Freeza, barely 5. Freeza barely 6. Android 13 fought evenly with SSJ Goku 7. #18>>>SSJ Vegeta>>Android 15>=<Android 14, 18 wins 8. Android 16 but close. 9. Android 20, said to be stronger 10. Android 14 but a good fight.
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-15 easilyy -20 -19 -18 with a flick of her finger -16 way to easilly -I would have to go with 14
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(20) Super Saiyan 2
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Moreover How can Vegeta transform into Super Saiyan in the first year of training, Piccolo in not "weak" like you said. And Obliously SSJ Vegeta first fight was versus A-19. So, Yep. Meta-Cooler (post-regeneratio) kick two Androids saga Super saiyans ass easily. ![]()
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1. Katachi Go Kura takes it, struggling slightly in hand-to-hand or generic Chi blast-off, but for definite with his instantly charged Supanova that nearly crushed SSJ Gokuu.
2. I personally place Movie 6 sometime in the three year training period prior to the Jinzoningen and Movie 7 as an alternate to the Jinzoningen Arc itself. However, I severly doubt that Movie 7 Base Gokuu is superior in any form to Movie 6 Kaiou-Ken X20 Gokuu, let alone SSJ Gokuu, who was only greatly inferior to Post-Rebuild Kinzoku Kura. Movie 7 Base Gokuu actually managed a few blows onto Juusan. Kura stomps. 3. Again, Movie 6 Gokuu ( SSJ ) >> Movie 6 Gokuu ( KKX20 ) >>> Movie 7 Gokuu ( Base ) > Movie 6 Gokuu ( Base ). Torankusu is lower than Gokuu by a good deal during the Jinzoningen Arc and it most likely applies for Movie 7 aswell. He was definitely on the losing side against Juugo ( lol, Naruto ) in Base, but SSJ finished him off pretty cleanly. I don't consider Torankusu training that much, if at all, during the three years, thus my vote goes to Kura once again. 4. 100% Furizaa crushes, IMO. At the peak of his chi, he fought a epic struggle with SSJ Gokuu down to a tee, even slicing through his Kamehameha with a motion barrier ala brother Kura. As much as a muthafucka pimp Pikkoro is, I struggle to believe that he could be anything more than 15-20% stronger than SSJ Gokuu, and that's being generous. Rather, I consider them to be equals, Pikkoro possibly being superior without his weights attached. He humiliated Gero even after having his chi absorbed, stating that he hid the majority of his reserves. Unless he starts spamming chi blasts like there's no tomorrow, I see the tyrant with the victory. 5. See scenario 4., only easier due to Juukyuu being weaker and probably not quite on Gero's kernel of intellect. 6. I still don't see a big increase between Organic and Mecha Furizaa in any suppressions, except possibly greater endurance and no constant decrease of chi in his 100% form. That said, if Juusan tussled with Base Gokuu briefly and actually took a bit to take him down and force him to SSJ, and Furizaa was confident enough to at least challenge Namekku-sei Gokuu again and win, combined with the fact that there's no way in hell that Base Gokuu pre-Seru Budokai is in the hundred millions, leaves me to believe that Furizaa takes it. However, it would be a shitload tougher then the previous battles in my honest opinion. 7. I'd say that Juuyon and Juugo are comparable to Gero and Juukyuu ( Chi Absorbed ) at full effort and I think that the latter duo could potentially take down 100% Furizaa with extreme difficulty, most likely with one of them dying in the process and possibly even both. Juuhachi is leaps and bounds ahead of Furizaa, she'd rape poor 'ole Juuyon and Juugo. 8. Close, very close matchup IMO. They are relatively equal in hand-to-hand and physical strength, Juuroku possibly having the suprise Rocket Punch to his advantage. Juusan annhilated the Movie 7 Zet-Senshi effortlessly, but so could Juuroku. It comes up to their final techniques, Juuroku's Hell Flash would be lethal and God Forbid if he uses his Self-Destruct, fucking Kazentai Seru was shocked, Juusan would piss himself horribly. S.S. Deadly Bomber however would be probably a OHKO if it connects. Close, but Juuroku has a very slight edge over Juusan. 9. As already mentioned, Gero is quite a pinch stronger then Juukyuu and absorbing more chi probably didn't close or open the gap any further. Gero wins. 10. I think that either Gero or Juukyuu could eventually fight to a stalemate with Juuyon, with the latter probably losing but with the former win IMO. The two of them together is overkill, they demolish Juuyon. All of this is of course my opinion.
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i doubt that! 14 was able to get a scratch on ssj trunks
ssj trunks>ssj goku(the one that fought cooler) there for 14>>cooler i would say 14=ssj goku(the one that fought cooler) 15 almost beat ssj vegeta ssj vegeta>ssj trunks ssj vegeta>> ssj goku(cooler fight) therefore 15>>>cooler frieza<cooler 14>>>frieza 15>>>>frieza meta cooler<ssj vegeta + ssj goku so i would say that after a couple of months mabeye a year, ssj goku=meta cooler so 13=meta cooler pre regeneration was i think equal to or weaker then goku! i would say meta cooler barely! 20 vs frieza frieza 19 vs frieza i would say tie or 19 13 vs frieza 100% i would say 13 becuase i doubt mecha frieza>meta cooler 18 vs 14 and 15 14 got stratch on ssj trunks 15 almost beat ssj vegeta so i think if you added there power, they would be weaker then 18 16 vs super 13 16> 17 16>18 15 & 14<18 so i will say with 13, they slightly stronger then 16 i think that 19 asorbed more energy then 20 so 19 wins! i believe that 20 and 19 could win but if it was 20 and 19 vs 15, they would lose! ssj goku(cooler fight): 100 ssj goku(meta cooler fight): 150 ssj goku(androids fight): 200 ssj vegeta(meta cooler): 140 ssj vegeta(androids): 190-200 ssj trunks(mecha frieza): 90 ssj trunks(androids): 180 cooler: 60 meta cooler(pre repairs): 97 meta cooler(post repairs): 200 frieza 100%: 50 mecha frieza(100%): 86 14: 160 15: 175 13: 200-205 20: 32 energy: 36 19: 30 energy: 50-55 18: 300 17: 300 16: 500 super 13: 535 |
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(20) Super Saiyan 2
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Stronger > weakers SSJ Goku (Android saga) > SSJ Goku (Earth) > SSJ Goku (Namek) SSJ Goku Movie 5 >= SSJ Goku Earth (I put Goku a bit stronger because he has a Zenkai in this movie) SSJ Goku Movie 6 and 7 = SSJ Goku Android saga (Movie 6 happend early android saga and movie 7 happend few days after that) Dragon Ball Toei FAQ - Minor Updates 7/30 My power levels: Freeza (100%, uninjured/never seen): 184 000 000 Mecha-Freeza (50% of true power): 103 000 000 Mecha-Freeza (100%): 206 000 000 Android 19 (Kamehameha absorbed): 100 000 000 Android 20 (absorbed Piccolo’s energy): 130 000 000 Android 18: 500 000 000 Android 16: 760 000 000 Android 13: 480 000 000 Android 14: 370 000 000 Android 15: 370 000 000 Super Android 13: 1 220 000 000 Cooler: 5 900 000 Cooler (Final form): 215 000 000 Cooler (Final form/Supernova): 385 000 000 Meta-Cooler (Full power): 465 000 000 Meta-Cooler (post-regeneration): 720 000 000 Final Cooler win: Final Cooler DeathBall was near to Kill Super Saiyan Goku. Who is stronger then Android 14. So, The DeathBall can destroy the android easily. Super Saiyan Goku Kamehameha > Final Cooler Death Ball >= Super Saiyan Goku > Android 14. Meta-Cooler win: A-13 and SSJ Goku were equal. And Meta-Cooler post-repair can kill SSJ Goku with only one hand. So, he can make the same with A-13. Meta-Cooler (post-repair) >>>>> SSJ Goku = A-13 Meta-Cooler win: Meta-Cooler (pre-repair) was equal win SSJ Goku. Who is far stronger than SSJ Trunks. So, Meta-Cooler destroy 15 without much efford. Meta-Cooler (Pre-repair) = SSJ Goku >>>>>>> SSJ Trunks Freeza win: I dont care how many energy Gero absorb, He never was eble to face a Super Saiyan and He was owned easily by Piccolo who was near SSJ Goku (Namek) in power. And Freeza (100%) was able to knock SSJ Goku out. Freeza (100%) = SSJ Goku (Namek) > Piccolo >>>>> Dr.Gero (all energy absorb) Freeza win: 19 was only able to take an illness Super Saiyan Goku who is far weaker than SSJ Namek Goku. So, Freeza win this. SSJ Goku Namek = Freeza (100%) >>> SSJ Goku illness > A-19 > SSJ Goku ilnnes and tired. Android 13 win: Mecha Freeza (never seen 100%) would be equal with SSJ Goku (Earth) But Android 13 was equal with SSJ Goku (Android saga). SSJ Goku (Android saga) = A-13 > SSJ Goku (Earth) >= Mecha-Freeza (100%) Interesting fight, I have my dudes: at last I give this fight to 18. Android 18 take with efford SSJ Vegeta who is stronger then the androids, But If 14 and 15 work together they would have a chance against 18. Super 13 win: In my opinion Super 13 is near Semi-Perfect Cell power, you can find my reasons in another thread. So, In my opinion Super 13 win easily. 20 win: I give this foght to 20 because he stated to be stronger and because he is smarter. 20 and 19 team win: 14 show to be stronger than 19 and 29 but if 19 and 20 make a team, they would win.
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How in the blue hell did you reach this conclusion? Android 20 is stated to be stronger then Android 19, and that's never contradicted. What you wrote should be reversed.
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Do you believe that because he got his ass handed to him by Vegeta? What exactly makes you think that? Also, Android 20 is stated to be stronger as I said before, therefore meaning #20 can absorb more energy then #19 when it comes down to it.
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(20) Super Saiyan 2
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And Mr. Satan was pawned by Kid Buu. And Cell was pawned by SSJ2 Goku. So,... Mr.Satan > Cell
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