Ames

Being the GT section, fillers are intended for this one.

Judging from the abrupt ending of a promising battle, Pikkon effortlessly took down a powerful Perfect Seru [to say the least], who in turn I believe to be superior to LSSJ Burori IMO. In turn, Olibu and Pikkon square off in an amazing battle that shows speed, strength, and skill indicative of two SSJ2's fighting, which whom I believe their power is relative to. The battle ends with Pikkon winning and challenges Son Goku in the final.

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WombatKombat

If Olibu is anyplace near Pikkon, even with weights ( who, via '' Omega Moodo '', smashed Zenkai Kazentai Seru hurtling, regardless of being '' suprised '' or not [ which I think is a bullshit excuse and a cop-out ] ) then he's at least Pre-Zenkai Full Power Seru material, thus rapes Burori horrendously, Movie 8 or Movie 10, but that's just my opinion of course.

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ps2_master94

gt isnt filler

WombatKombat

Wut? GT is non-canon, so while it may not be true filler, the anime filler is canonically related to that series and could be considered '' filler '', though you would be right about it not being designed as filler.

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Bogard

Obliu would win. He's (was able to take a hit from Pikkon) stronger than Super Perfect Cell. I don't think Broly (Movie 8) reached that level, yet.

Ames

Whatever is shown through filler, decides this battle, and through that:

Pikkon > Olibu > LSSJ Burori Movie 10 > LSSJ Burori Movie 8

Edit: I posted Movie 8 b/c I don't believe there is a relatively big increase in Zenkai from Movie 8 to Movie 10 Burori, thus proving Movie 10 Burori void.

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Cyrax

LSSJ Broly is far stronger in my opinion. Broly win.

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SSJ4 Vegito

Well I believe Pikkon when doing it could have been using a Kaio-ken like technique, perhaps up to factor 10 even. I believe that Pikkon (With his weights on is only around Base Goku, Cell Games) Olibu lost to him, so I'd say Broly wins.

Broly

LSSjin Broly would stomp his face through the space flooring.

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Majuub

Movie 8? Why not Movie 10? In any case Broly loses horribly. Logic isn't too hard to determine.

LSSJ Broly(Movie 10)>LSSJ Broly(Movie 8)

There are two possible scenarios.

Scenario 1: Gohan was MSSJ in movie 10, weaker than his MSSJ kid self. He was still able to put up a fight against Broly. Cell(Post Zenkai) would have literally stomped on that LSSJ Broly. MSSJ adult Gohan wouldn't be able to put up a fight against Cell, he would have gotten crushed. Even as a kid, his MSSJ state wouldn't be enough to even scratch Cell(Post Zenkai) it would be like pitting SSJ Vegeta against SSJ2 Goku. A completely one-sided slaughter. If Cell beats movie 10 Broly and was dominated by Pikkon who was barely stronger than Olibu, then Olibu would decimate Broly.

Pikkon>Olibu>>SSJ2 Kid Gohan>/=Cell(Post Zenkai)>>>LSSJ Broly>MSSJ Gohan(Movie 10)



Scenario 2: Gohan was SSJ2 in movie 10, weaker than his SSJ2 kid self. Adult Gohan is a good margain weaker than kid Gohan, if adult Gohan was able to strike Broly and even had a strength struggle with him, then I don't doubt SSJ2 kid Gohan would have given Broly a fair run for his money. If you really think the difference between kid Gohan and adult Gohan is great, then SSJ2 kid Gohan beats Broly but barely. Same thing again, Pikkon is much stronger than Cell who was about equal to SSJ2 kid Gohan. Olibu was just a little weaker than Pikkon.

Pikkon>Olibu>>SSJ2 Kid Gohan>=<LSSJ Broly>=<Cell(Post Zenkai)>SSJ2 Gohan(Movie 10)

Look at it the way you want, Movie 10 Broly is stronger than movie 8 Broly, so if he gets beaten, his movie 8 incarnation stands no chance.

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Ames

Remember, fillers are intended to determine this battle.

Actually, in any way, Burori loses.

@ Majuub, brilliant post my friend.

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Broly

Fillers don't make sense, in any case really. Cell was obviously not in his Post-Zenkai powered state when Pikkon surprise attacked him. And if you were to count Yamcha and his glorious triumph over Olibu a bit later, then the whole thing really doesn't make sense. So I don't see why people bring fillers into this, when the proper way to determine and clarify the information regarding the battle powers should be taken straight from the manga, if possible. The next best thing would be the Anime or Movies in Japanese, then English, then comes the filler in last.

I have LSSjin Broly in Movie 10 stronger than SSjin2 Vegeta. [not by much mind you] Olibu is nowhere near a match for him, not even if Broly was from Movie 8 would Olibu be able to defeat him. We know that Goku was merely a Super Saiyan when he fought Pikkon, but here you're saying that Pikkon is strong enough to defeat Complete Cell [post-Zenkai].

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SSJ4 Vegito

I actually thought of a way on how the whole other world Saga could be possible, here it is:

A solution to the whole Otherworld Tournament Scenario

Broly

I am aware of those happenings, and I agree more or less. The filler is alright to use in calculating a filler character's power as long as the information used isn't contradicted later. I believe once it's contradicted [the info] then it can only be used up to the point before the contradicting filler takes place. In this case, I'm referring to the whole incident in Otherworld where Yamcha battles Olibu and another guy and wins. Nothing further happened concerning Olibu after that, so to me, Olibu is only as strong as Pikkon [weights], who is more or less equal to Complete Cell [powered-up].

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SSJ4 Vegito

Yeah, I also agree that Broly wins.