Metallic Rilldo

how was janemba tactical and intelligant?

Cyrax

Janemba win this.

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Ames

I believe Evil Janemba would be the victor, just going by the need to fuse in order to defeat him.

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Ignorance is Bliss...

WombatKombat

Let's see here: Base Janemba or '' Janempa '' is roughly Mr. Buu level, if not higher, forcing Son Gokuu to transform into Supa Saiya-Jin 3, whereupon he trashed him with relative ease. Hildegarn in his base form essentially teleport-blitzed the Son trio, including Saikyo no Gohan, and downed all of them within a couple of hits. Then, strangely enough, Supa Saiya-Jin 3 Gontenkusu pretty much pwned with Renzoku Shine Shine Missile.

So we have:
SSJ3 Gontekusu >/>> Hildegarn > Saikyo no Gohan (WTF?) >>/>>> Mr. Buu </= Janemba (Base) > SSJ2 Gokuu.

Next up, Janemba transforms into Shin Janemba and pretty much rapes Supa Saiya-Jin 3 Gokuu. Now, it is of my opinion that Shin Janemba was heavily suppressing in power at this point, basically toying and feinting pain against Gokuu.
One should also note the fact that we are appling Toei Son Gokuu (as in, the one within the anime and movies), into the equation, who is supposedly on par or even superior to Saikyo no Gohan, able to hold off Shin Buutenkusu at least momentarily and not get mauled like Gohan did. This would mean (under anime + movie law) that:
Shin Janemba (suppressed) >/>> SSJ3 Gokuu (Toei) >/= Saikyo no Gohan >> SSJ3 Gontenkusu >/>> Hildegarn >>>/>>>> Mr. Buu </= Janemba > SSJ2 Gokuu (Toei).

Then, Hildegarn ''evolves'' and curbstomps Gotenkusu into the ground and defuses him in one shot. Again, nothing really stops this monster's carnage, only being briefly distracted by Tapion's ocarina, then suddenly, out comes SSJ3 Gokuu (strangely, he didn't think about transforming earlier in the movie, hmmm.....) all confident and smug, takes full-blown punches from Post-Henshin Hildegarn and smiles. Pretty beastly, no?
After that, out comes Torankusu cutting off Hildegarn's tail w/ Tapion's super special hax sword, follows with ole' Ryu-Ken from Gokuu, finally defeating the beast.

Back onto Shin Janemba. So there he is, crushing that same Toei-buffed Gokuu like a little maggot, shooting off death lazers from his sword, warping Hell as he sees fit, etc. All of a sudden, down comes Supa Saiya-Jin 2 Bejita, looking to die. Catches Janemba off guard by predicting his Cube Fade, get punished by gaining pernament brain damage from having his head smashed off several giant jellybeans and his jackshit (but when isn't Bejita in Toei fights?) So now, seemingly all hope is lost, Gokuu and Bejita run off to recuperate, Bejita cries like a pussy for the second time ever, Gokuu has a nice speech, Pikkon helps by becoming guniea pig fodder for Janemba, giving enough prep for B and G to fuuuuseeeee!

So now Gokuu and Bejita have fused into the mighty Supa Saiya-Jin Gojita. I personally wouldn't place Gojita so far off of Supa Bejito, perhaps a 25% difference at best. That would still place Gojita lucidly superior to Toei Base Bejito, who pummeled Shin Buuhan with some effort. I wouldn't place a full power Shin Janemba (as in, the one with a massive pink aura after getting smacked by Gojita) so far behind that Base Bejito, I'd say roughly Shin Buuhan level myself.

So after all that, here is my personal conclusion: (Remember, this is Toei-style!)

Supa Bejito > Supa Gojita >> Base Bejito >/>> Shin Janemba ( Full Power ) >/= Shin Buuhan >/>> Son Gokuu ( SSJ3, Ryu-Ken ) > Hildegarn ( Post-Henshin ) = Shin Janemba ( Suppressed ) > Shin Buutenkusu >/= Son Gokuu ( SSJ3 ) > Saikyo no Gohan >> Gotenkusu ( SSJ3 ) >/>> Hildegarn = Shin Buu >>>/>>>> Janemba ( Base ) >/= Mr. Buu > Son Gokuu ( SSJ2 ) > Bejita ( SSJ2 ).

Zer0

1. I don't understand Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks owning Hirudegarn. He did an attack and Hirudegarn evolved. That means that attack has to be stronger?

2. Fusion did not occur in Movie 13 not because of the lack of a serious enough threat. They did it in the last Movie. The entertainment value had been used. That's why no Genki Dama or combining Ki.

3. Smiling through his attack means nothing. Its a trademark for the Shonen character to do this to show his determination regardless of the overwhelming odds.

4. 13>12. I rest my case.

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Metallic Rilldo

ssj3 gotenks beat form 1 hirudegarn! that means that hirudegarn is stronger