Turles [Shinseiju Fruit Consumed; Oozaru] vs. Freeza [True Form; Suppressed]

Broly · 07-18-2008

Just wanted to see what you thought of this.

Sephiroth · 07-18-2008

By suppressed, do you mean Freeza right after he transformed? If so, than Tullece would win. Final form Freeza's power level would be around 3,000,000. With the 10x multiplier for the Oozaru form Tullece would only have to be a little over 300,000 to beat Freeza. Son Goku's battle power is stated by Tullece to be over 30,000. With the Kaio-Ken x10 Goku would be anyplace from 300,000-350,000. Yet even then he was no match for Tullece when he ate the fruit. This would back up the statement that upon eating the fruit from the Shinseiju tree Tullece would be stronger than Freeza (referencing Freeza's first form). Based upon this Tullece should have a battle power of about 600,000 after the fruit. With the Oozaru form his power should go up to around 6,000,000. This would be more than enough to easily do away with final form Freeza in his most suppressed state. If Freeza powers up to 50% however, Tullece wouldn't stand a chance.

Evil Vegeta · 07-18-2008

I still think it would be difficult for Turles to win the battle. When Freeza didn't use his hands against Goku, the Kaioken (which I assume is the basic) still didn't do anything, because he couldn't catch Freeza, and I'd think his power level would be around 7,000,000 since I think Goku is about 3,500,000 in base.

Turles would have the upperhand, but Freeza might still win.

Broly · 07-18-2008

Yes, I'm speaking of the same Freeza that Goku first confronted. The only thing I don't think we should be assuming is that Turles is actually stronger than Freeza [3rd Suppression]. Just because they said that they would become stronger than Freeza once they ate the fruit, doesn't mean that they actually did. It was more of a thrilled claim, them being excited of the imminency of the Tree of Might, I think. Anyway, if Turles is 410,000 at base after eating the Shinseiju, then he'd be strong enough to beat this Freeza in Oozaru form. But Freeza is very fast, and has psychic powers, which he could use to his advantage if he wanted to cut Turles' tail off. Then, game over.

Evil Vegeta · 07-18-2008

I agree with that. His henchmen were the ones who really mentioned it, not Turles himself. He would have to be around 500,000 at least, because he made Kaioken x10 look like crap.

Broly · 07-18-2008

But Goku was around 32,000 during his battle with Turles. Turles being at least 1.33x Goku's power, when he was using Kaioken x10, would make him like 425,000. How much stronger do you think he is?

Evil Vegeta · 07-18-2008

When you say fruit comsumed, you're only referring to one fruit, right? Even if you are, I think Turles being at 500,000 wouldn't be a bad level for the first fruit.

Broly · 07-18-2008

The second fruit he ate had practically no energy in it. Goku had already extracted it for the Spirit Bomb. He only got one actual increase of power from the Shinseiju. But nah, I agree with you pretty much. 500,000 is not a bad level at all to place Turles. It's perfectly valid.

Vicdmx · 07-18-2008

Hard match up, they would probably kill themselfs after so much blasts and fists.

Eternal Phoenix · 07-18-2008

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Originally Posted by vicdmx

Hard match up, they would probably kill themselfs after so much blasts and fists.

Wait what? you make no sense at all man.

SSJ4 Vegito · 07-18-2008

Cool matchup this is actually pretty interesting it's a hard one.
Turles' Henchmen state that after Turles eats the fruit one more time then he could beat Freeza (Most likely referring to his 1st Form) easily however they probably only witnessed Freeza's absolute Minimum Power so I'd say Turles could be around 440,000 considering how easily he defeated Kaio-ken x10 Goku. The Great Ape form would bring him up to 4,400,000 and since I think that would give him a pretty good edge I believe that Turles would have about as much control over himself as Bardock did and since Bardock and the Crew were able to remain on task I'd say Turles could definatly beat Freeza although Freeza might be able to cut off his tail. I'll still say Turles could win I'd say it's just about 50/50 so I'll say Turles.

tombo671 · 07-20-2008

frieza wins this easy hes a better fighter

SRP76 · 07-20-2008

Complicated match.

Turles after eating the fruit was likely around 350,000 - 400,000. Frieza was over 3,000,000 when he killed Vegeta.

So, I'd say Frieza's going to win. Becoming an ape won't help; Turles might gain a lot of brute force, but his speed won't increase nearly enough to match Frieza. Frieza will pick him apart at will.

Broly · 07-20-2008

^That's what I've been thinking. And also, Freeza has psychic powers at his disposal...

07-18-2008	#1 (permalink)
Broly The Desolate One Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: You think I give a shit about where you think I stay? Posts: 7,538 Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 31	Turles [Shinseiju Fruit Consumed; Oozaru] vs. Freeza [True Form; Suppressed] Just wanted to see what you thought of this. __________________ $E:\Avatars\I am [not] God.JPG$ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wS5xOZ7Rq8 Silence is golden, ducktape is silver, a bullet is bronze.

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Sephiroth MFG's One Winged Angel (11) Hunter Nin Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Inside the Tsukuyomi Posts: 185 Rep Power: 4	Re: Turles [Shinseiju Fruit Consumed; Oozaru] vs. Freeza [True Form; Suppressed] By suppressed, do you mean Freeza right after he transformed? If so, than Tullece would win. Final form Freeza's power level would be around 3,000,000. With the 10x multiplier for the Oozaru form Tullece would only have to be a little over 300,000 to beat Freeza. Son Goku's battle power is stated by Tullece to be over 30,000. With the Kaio-Ken x10 Goku would be anyplace from 300,000-350,000. Yet even then he was no match for Tullece when he ate the fruit. This would back up the statement that upon eating the fruit from the Shinseiju tree Tullece would be stronger than Freeza (referencing Freeza's first form). Based upon this Tullece should have a battle power of about 600,000 after the fruit. With the Oozaru form his power should go up to around 6,000,000. This would be more than enough to easily do away with final form Freeza in his most suppressed state. If Freeza powers up to 50% however, Tullece wouldn't stand a chance. __________________ The eyes of a madman glow with pure hatred as he looks towards his goal: Of becoming a God.

07-18-2008	#4 (permalink)
Broly The Desolate One Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: You think I give a shit about where you think I stay? Posts: 7,538 Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 31	Re: Turles [Shinseiju Fruit Consumed; Oozaru] vs. Freeza [True Form; Suppressed] Yes, I'm speaking of the same Freeza that Goku first confronted. The only thing I don't think we should be assuming is that Turles is actually stronger than Freeza [3rd Suppression]. Just because they said that they would become stronger than Freeza once they ate the fruit, doesn't mean that they actually did. It was more of a thrilled claim, them being excited of the imminency of the Tree of Might, I think. Anyway, if Turles is 410,000 at base after eating the Shinseiju, then he'd be strong enough to beat this Freeza in Oozaru form. But Freeza is very fast, and has psychic powers, which he could use to his advantage if he wanted to cut Turles' tail off. Then, game over. __________________ $E:\Avatars\I am [not] God.JPG$ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wS5xOZ7Rq8 Silence is golden, ducktape is silver, a bullet is bronze.

07-18-2008	#6 (permalink)
Broly The Desolate One Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: You think I give a shit about where you think I stay? Posts: 7,538 Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 31	Re: Turles [Shinseiju Fruit Consumed; Oozaru] vs. Freeza [True Form; Suppressed] But Goku was around 32,000 during his battle with Turles. Turles being at least 1.33x Goku's power, when he was using Kaioken x10, would make him like 425,000. How much stronger do you think he is? __________________ $E:\Avatars\I am [not] God.JPG$ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wS5xOZ7Rq8 Silence is golden, ducktape is silver, a bullet is bronze.

07-18-2008	#8 (permalink)
Broly The Desolate One Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: You think I give a shit about where you think I stay? Posts: 7,538 Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 31	Re: Turles [Shinseiju Fruit Consumed; Oozaru] vs. Freeza [True Form; Suppressed] The second fruit he ate had practically no energy in it. Goku had already extracted it for the Spirit Bomb. He only got one actual increase of power from the Shinseiju. But nah, I agree with you pretty much. 500,000 is not a bad level at all to place Turles. It's perfectly valid. __________________ $E:\Avatars\I am [not] God.JPG$ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wS5xOZ7Rq8 Silence is golden, ducktape is silver, a bullet is bronze.

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Vicdmx (22) Super Saiyan 3 Join Date: May 2008 Location: UK Posts: 1,904 Rep Power: 35	Re: Turles [Shinseiju Fruit Consumed; Oozaru] vs. Freeza [True Form; Suppressed] Hard match up, they would probably kill themselfs after so much blasts and fists.

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SSJ4 Vegito (25) Kami of Earth Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 4,227 Rep Power: 114	Re: Turles [Shinseiju Fruit Consumed; Oozaru] vs. Freeza [True Form; Suppressed] Cool matchup this is actually pretty interesting it's a hard one. Turles' Henchmen state that after Turles eats the fruit one more time then he could beat Freeza (Most likely referring to his 1st Form) easily however they probably only witnessed Freeza's absolute Minimum Power so I'd say Turles could be around 440,000 considering how easily he defeated Kaio-ken x10 Goku. The Great Ape form would bring him up to 4,400,000 and since I think that would give him a pretty good edge I believe that Turles would have about as much control over himself as Bardock did and since Bardock and the Crew were able to remain on task I'd say Turles could definatly beat Freeza although Freeza might be able to cut off his tail. I'll still say Turles could win I'd say it's just about 50/50 so I'll say Turles.

07-20-2008	#12 (permalink)
tombo671 (13) Great Ape Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: why Posts: 261 Rep Power: 2	Re: Turles [Shinseiju Fruit Consumed; Oozaru] vs. Freeza [True Form; Suppressed] frieza wins this easy hes a better fighter

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SRP76 (23) Final Warrior Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 2,341 Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 37	Re: Turles [Shinseiju Fruit Consumed; Oozaru] vs. Freeza [True Form; Suppressed] Complicated match. Turles after eating the fruit was likely around 350,000 - 400,000. Frieza was over 3,000,000 when he killed Vegeta. So, I'd say Frieza's going to win. Becoming an ape won't help; Turles might gain a lot of brute force, but his speed won't increase nearly enough to match Frieza. Frieza will pick him apart at will.

07-20-2008	#14 (permalink)
Broly The Desolate One Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: You think I give a shit about where you think I stay? Posts: 7,538 Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 31	Re: Turles [Shinseiju Fruit Consumed; Oozaru] vs. Freeza [True Form; Suppressed] ^That's what I've been thinking. And also, Freeza has psychic powers at his disposal... __________________ $E:\Avatars\I am [not] God.JPG$ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wS5xOZ7Rq8 Silence is golden, ducktape is silver, a bullet is bronze.