Broly in movie 8 vs SSj Vegeta(Buu Saga) - Page 4

Broly The LSSJ · 06-16-2008

Honestly, anyone who thinks a LSSJ is beaten by a mere SSJ is pretty fucked in the head...

The Green Dragon · 06-16-2008

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Originally Posted by BrolytheLSSJ

Honestly, anyone who thinks a LSSJ is beaten by a mere SSJ is pretty fucked in the head...

Agreed, you have to be a MSSJ or a SSJ2 to take on Broly. I think people here and underestimating Broly (I can't believe I just said that). Broly has dominance over SSj1s, "dominance". Vegeta wouldn't have gotten that big a power gap, and Broly would receive alot through Zenkais. The botton line is, Vegeta isn't a MSSJ, and never was, he would have to go SSj2 to take on Broly.

**Broly** · 06-16-2008

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Originally Posted by T-1000

Broly was beaten by MSSJ Goku (Android arc). Obliously MSSJ Vegeta (Buu arc) is stronger than Goku. So, Vegeta win.

goodbye.

You mean an overpowered MSSj Goku, who was stronger than SSj Vegeta [Buu Arc]. Hello.

The Green Dragon · 06-16-2008

Sorry about this post, using this emoticon just seemed like so much fun at the time.

Broly The LSSJ · 06-16-2008

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Originally Posted by The Green Dragon

Agreed, you have to be a MSSJ or a SSJ2 to take on Broly. I think people here and underestimating Broly (I can't believe I just said that). Broly has dominance over SSj1s, "dominance". Vegeta wouldn't have gotten that big a power gap, and Broly would receive alot through Zenkais. The botton line is, Vegeta isn't a MSSJ, and never was, he would have to go SSj2 to take on Broly.

By SSJ, I also meant MSSJ's since they go hand in hand for Goku and maybe Vegeta in the Buu Saga. People usually call them MSSJ or FPSSJ if you're just referring to Goku and Gohan in the Cell Games but my point is that Movie 10 Broly would have no problem taking out (M)SSJ Goku in the Buu Saga. He and Vegeta would definately need SSJ2 to take out Movie 8 Broly though.

I think Broly received a big enough zenkai to overpower the SSJ2 warriors by a good margin as well but that also depends on how strong you think he was prior to Second Coming and if you think Gohan was a SSJ2 in their fight or not (not in the beam struggle towards the end).

I'll be fair though. After 5 years of training at the end of DBZ is the only time where SSJ2's are stronger than Broly but only because he didn't live on and grow stronger at the same time.

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Originally Posted by Broly

You mean an overpowered MSSj Goku, who was stronger than SSj Vegeta [Buu Arc]. Hello.

Quoted for truth.

SSJBulma · 06-16-2008

Bah Vegeta got shat upon, metaphorically speaking, after Cell Saga.
He wouldn't beat Broly and I'm not sure how long he'd last. This is, mind you, if the anime had it's way and this happened.

uki1234 · 06-16-2008

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Originally Posted by BrolytheLSSJ

Honestly, anyone who doesn't think a LSSJ is beaten by a mere SSJ is pretty fucked in the head...

fixed for truth.

gfwspacezilla · 06-16-2008

brolythelssj, broli Never became stronger than super perfect cell or gohan ssj2.

**Broly** · 06-16-2008

The same guys who made Movie 12 made Movie 10. They forgot to include sparks for SSj2 in both movies.

SSJ4 Vegito · 06-16-2008

In Movie 12 Goku is shown going SSJ2 (In his Acension to SSJ3, and he goes SSJ2 and has lightning). As for Vegeta we never see him transform he just shows up "transformed" into some state of SSJ.

JayXL14 · 06-16-2008

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Originally Posted by Broly

The same guys who made Movie 12 made Movie 10. They forgot to include sparks for SSj2 in both movies.

If they "forget" to include sparks for Gohan SSj2 in Movie 10, then he isn't a SSj2.. We all already know that the movies are non-canon, but I suppose that's irrelevant. If there is no lightning or sparks, then the character has not achieved SSj2 or SSj3. You might say, "Oh, what about Vegeta when he fought Kid Buu towards the end of Buu Saga? We know he's SSj2 but there's no sparks." My answer, we know he's SSj2 not because of the lightning because (they FORGOT) or the damn hair, but because it's in the manga. So even if the DBZ anime forgets to add lightning every once in a while (such as Vegeta), we can prove that he IS a SSj2 because of the following:

Manga Fox: Dragon Ball Vol.42 Ch.009 Online Manga Scans

Clearly, we see lightning, therefore, he's SSj2. If the anime is wrong (usually isn't with the lightning on SSj2 and SSj3), then we got the Manga to back us up (Manga = always right). In the movies, if there's no lightning on a "supposed" SSj2, then guess what, he's not SSj2. So, you cannot prove that LSSj Broly is stronger than a SSj2 because of the fight between him and Gohan in Movie 10.. That's what I think.

The Green Dragon · 06-17-2008

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Originally Posted by JayXL14

If they "forget" to include sparks for Gohan SSj2 in Movie 10, then he isn't a SSj2.. We all already know that the movies are non-canon, but I suppose that's irrelevant. If there is no lightning or sparks, then the character has not achieved SSj2 or SSj3. You might say, "Oh, what about Vegeta when he fought Kid Buu towards the end of Buu Saga? We know he's SSj2 but there's no sparks." My answer, we know he's SSj2 not because of the lightning because (they FORGOT) or the damn hair, but because it's in the manga. So even if the DBZ anime forgets to add lightning every once in a while (such as Vegeta), we can prove that he IS a SSj2 because of the following:

Manga Fox: Dragon Ball Vol.42 Ch.009 Online Manga Scans

Clearly, we see lightning, therefore, he's SSj2. If the anime is wrong (usually isn't with the lightning on SSj2 and SSj3), then we got the Manga to back us up (Manga = always right). In the movies, if there's no lightning on a "supposed" SSj2, then guess what, he's not SSj2. So, you cannot prove that LSSj Broly is stronger than a SSj2 because of the fight between him and Gohan in Movie 10.. That's what I think.

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Evil Vegeta · 06-17-2008

Vegeta never even had any aura when he fought Janemba, so how does that mean he isn't SSJ2? He's going to just attack someone who made SSJ3 Goku look like a joke in his weakest form?

As for Gohan: Gohan stated that he was far more powerful then he was when he fought Broly as a kid; this is the same Gohan that grew weaker over the seven years of peace, and we know he's very weak. If Gohan is more powerful then himself when he fought Broly as a kid, even though he should be far weaker, then he was a SSJ2, no electric or not. If you think he's just a SSJ after that, then what he says just isn't relevant, and it clearly is.

SSJ4 Vegito · 06-17-2008

I choose to go with the Mid-Rosat theory, so the way I see it: Cell Game Gohan/Movie 9 Gohan>>Movie 10/Buu Saga Gohan>>>Movie 8/Mid-Rosat Gohan. So I actually believe Gohan was referring to himself (Buu Saga) being stronger than himself at the last fight with Broly (Which in my veiw was Mid-Rosat).

Evil Vegeta · 06-17-2008

Yeah, but Gohan still got much weaker over that period of time. Gohan was boasting as if he could really be capable of so much more then he was, and I don't see how that can be if he was like 2% stronger then himself, but also much weaker then he should be.

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SSJ4 Vegito (22) Super Saiyan 3 Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 1,939 Rep Power: 13	Re: Broly in movie 8 vs SSj Vegeta(Buu Saga) In Movie 12 Goku is shown going SSJ2 (In his Acension to SSJ3, and he goes SSJ2 and has lightning). As for Vegeta we never see him transform he just shows up "transformed" into some state of SSJ.

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SSJ4 Vegito (22) Super Saiyan 3 Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 1,939 Rep Power: 13	Re: Broly in movie 8 vs SSj Vegeta(Buu Saga) I choose to go with the Mid-Rosat theory, so the way I see it: Cell Game Gohan/Movie 9 Gohan>>Movie 10/Buu Saga Gohan>>>Movie 8/Mid-Rosat Gohan. So I actually believe Gohan was referring to himself (Buu Saga) being stronger than himself at the last fight with Broly (Which in my veiw was Mid-Rosat).