Majuub

Don't tell me the difference between SSJ Gotenks and SSJ3 Gotenks is 2,5x. Surely a multiplier is a round number not a decimal number. I don't see why Gotenks would become only 2,5x stronger when he gets 2 SSJ levels higher, that's way too low.

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stefzed54

The SSJ3 Multiplier is very low, especially low for fused characters.

Hell Goku's is only 3x

Plus I dont think SSJ3 Gotenks is more than 2.5x stronger than SSJ3 Goku.

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Majuub

Where did you get the idea that the SSJ3 multiplier is very low. Nothing suggests the multiplier is lower or higher we don't want to go in that debate so that's why I just give 2x for each multipliers. We won't start giving or personal thoughts over this because no one can be right nor wrong. Even if it's very low, why would the multiplier suddenly be a decimal number? In your list you have the multiplier from base to SSJ at 3x, you have the multiplier from SSJ to SSJ3 at 2x??? It doesn't make any sense. Even going by that logic, it gives that.


Goku: 800(As strong as SSJ Gotenks)

SSJ Goku: 2,400(3x multiplier from base)

SSJ3 Goku: 4,800(2x multiplier from SSJ)

SSJ Gotenks: 800(As strong as base Goku)

SSJ3 Gotenks: 2,400(2x multiplier from SSJ)

Shin Buu: 2,400(As strong as SSJ3 Gotenks

Chou Gohan: 3,600

Shin Buu(Gohan absorbed): 6,000

A 1,25x difference is still more than enough for Shin Buu to lay a royal smackdown on Goku's ass. See no matter which way you look at it Shin Buu(Gohan absorbed) is always higher.

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stefzed54

You have Super Buu, Ultimate Gohan and Gohan Buu too high for starters.

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Majuub

Shin Buu is equal to SSJ3 Gotenks. Chou Gohan was owning Shin Buu like there was no tomorrow, it wasn't a match, it was a slaughter, having him 1,5x stronger than Shin Buu is pretty good to me. He could have just blasted him and kill him but he didn't. He could even be 2x stronger but I putted 1,5x to not stretcht it too much.

Shin Buu(Gohan absorbed) is just Shin Buu+Gohan

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apocalypse1280

I refuse to get into another big thing with you but it's pretty obvious if he says 'the most awesome Ki I've ever felt', he's talking about ever felt, not anyone I've ever faced. That means good, bad, and himself. To me it's common sense and that wasn't a fucking dub line. Goku also says that Baby Vegeta was becoming a god. Those are pretty big words.

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Majuub

I mean ''felt'' is the key word here. It's like if I say, you're the most powerful warrior I ever met. Obviously I exclude myself since I didn't meet myself. Just like with Goku, it's not like Goku felt Vegeto's power, he was Vegeto, If he's talking about feeling himself it's rather weird. That statement means Bebi Vegeta has the most amazing Ki Goku ever felt, meaning he's stronger than anyone Goku ever feel, it's not like he would include Vegeto in it. It's not a big thing, just the meaning of a statement. If it's not a dub line, then it's from the original version?? Cool, you understand japanese??

Edit: You might be right on that one though, I suppose it depends wether or not you include Vegeto in that statement.

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SSJ4 Vegito

Even if he was referring to Vegito I'd still say Vegito wins, since Bebi-Vegeta defeated Majuub, he blocked his punches and kicks (All of them except for one shot Majuub got in). Then after avoiding all his blasts Bebi countered and after a struggle, Bebi smiles and uses Full Power and he defeats Majuub. He wasn't breathing hard after he launched the blast which tells me that it wasn't THAT big of a deal although he did struggle a little bit. I still wouldn't put Majuub as strong as Super Vegito (Plus GT is based off of the anime in which Base Vegito is stronger than Gohan Buu). So I'd still say Super Vegito wins.

apocalypse1280

Except Majuub only attacked Baby Vegeta with physical attacks for like 5 seconds, in which he did land a hit. Not only was Baby Vegeta impressed with Majuub's improved power and speed, but Majuub was the aggressor the entire time. On top of all that, Majuub got turned into chocolate on purpose in order to attack Baby Vegeta from the inside. So no, Baby Vegeta had no advantage, and Majuub would beat SSJ Vegito.

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Super_17

I say SSJ vegito would win you have the combined fighting skills of vegeta and goku against majuub. Plus vegito himself was not even trying against buuhan he was just toying with him meaning vegito had a huge excessive amount of energy in him. Plus what was majuub basically super buy? So vegito would win.

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apocalypse1280

WTF did you just say? As soon as I figure it out I'll let you know. Until then also keep in mind that Majuub killed Rilldo in one blast with little to no effort and Rilldo was stronger then Buu.

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Super_17

I edited my post but think about this you cant tell me rildo was even at vegito's strength, he wasn't. If anything himself rildo was at super buu's power level. So majuub took him out with one shot doesn't nesscarily mean he would take vegito out that easily.

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stefzed54

Majuub >> Gohan Buu

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apocalypse1280

I didn't say Rilldo was at Vegito's strength. And Goku said Rilldo's Ki was greater then Buu's. Since he didn't specify which Buu, to me he meant Buu period, any form. So Rilldo was stronger then Super Buu. I'm just saying that the fact that Majuub killed Rilldo with one blast with no effort, when Rilldo is stronger then Buu, should give you an idea how strong Majuub is. If anything I say Rilldo was probably somewhere between SSJ3 Gotenks and Mystic Gohan.

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Majuub

Or somewhere between SSJ3 Goku and SSJ3 Gotenks, depends which way you look at it.

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