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Old 05-10-2008   #16 (permalink)
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at equal power the Z team
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At equal power the Z team would win by a bit.
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I understand you said at the same PL, but you didn't say if anyones abilities were taken away. If not, then the GT team wins, solely on the fact that Super 17 can absorb any ki blast and become stronger, and arguably wipe out all three Z villains at the same time. As far as Omega Shenron's regeneration abilities go, just watch the anime. First of all, Omega Shenron got them from Rage Shenron. "Proof" is when Goku hits Omega Shenron with the Dragon Fist, Omega regenerates after that attack. Here is your proof:




I know Buu has regeneration abilities as well, but with Super 17's absorption abilities, the GT villains take this with minimal problems.
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1. Equal Power levels. Read what the TC said.

2. Proof?

3. He was 2x stronger than them, that has nothing to do with combat experience.

4. He would if he was fighting against power who have equal power levels to him, but are far more skilled.
Seems as though I missed that bit at the top...in bold. How silly of me.

In that case the Z team would win. But only because of Cell and Buu's regeneration.

But can you prove that Omega only has 2 moves? Before you want to see my proof, I would love to see yours!
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I understand you said at the same PL, but you didn't say if anyones abilities were taken away. If not, then the GT team wins, solely on the fact that Super 17 can absorb any ki blast and become stronger, and arguably wipe out all three Z villains at the same time. As far as Omega Shenron's regeneration abilities go, just watch the anime. First of all, Omega Shenron got them from Rage Shenron. "Proof" is when Goku hits Omega Shenron with the Dragon Fist, Omega regenerates after that attack. Here is your proof:




After that, Omega Shenron also regenerates after Gogeta shoots him with the Big Bang Kamehameha. I know Buu has regeneration abilities as well, but with Super 17's absorption abilities, the GT villains take this with minimal problems.
Actually is this quite true and maybe the GT team wins I am not sure I dont know who would win I am not so sure.
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Z would own man. SSj 3 is stronger then SSJ4. So SSJ4 beat all those from GT, but SSJ3 did it not alone.
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Good post apocalypse, you sure showed your point of view well.

Deep Thought wont know what to say now.
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At equal power levels? Z. Easily. The first two have enough tactical smarts to beat anyone, and Buu would simply regenerate people to death.
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Sine when was Freiza smart? He was just a power hungry dumbass, Super 17 would absorb all his energy and then crush him.

Perfect Cell wouldnt stand a chance against one of Baby's revenge death balls, plus he is a huge ozaru.

Omega would probably be beaten by Buu.
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Sine when was Freiza smart? He was just a power hungry dumbass, Super 17 would absorb all his energy and then crush him.

Perfect Cell wouldnt stand a chance against one of Baby's revenge death balls, plus he is a huge ozaru.

Omega would probably be beaten by Buu.
Baby wouldn't stand a chance against Cell's Kamehameha wave.

Freeza was always intelligent. He was very tactically minded.
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Ok, then, let's see what the Z team has:

-Two of them can regenerate.

-One of them can absorb, two if we go by GT logic. The GT villains are stupid enough to fall for that, too. Then, its game over.

-One of them can create spawns of themselves, and, while the spawns aren't that powerful, they'd be useful.

-One of them can get Zenkais, therefore increasing their power.

-Two of them have like...... ten moves each.

-One of them can learn moves as soon as it sees the move.

-Three of them have tons of combat experience, and are better at fighting someone equal to their power level. Freeza fought well against Super Sayajin Goku, Buu fought well against Super Sayajin 3 Goku and Gotenks, and Cell is a combination of everyone.

-Buu has the ability to heal people. This is a very useful ability.



GT villains have:

-One of them can regenerate.

-No absorption or anything of the sort, besides Bebi's infest ability, but I'm assuming that Bebi can't leave his body. Super 17 has energy absorption, but two of the Z villains would notice the chi increase and make the connection. Super 17 would get a 1.1x increase and keep it for one minute. Then things would be the same.

-One to four moves each.

-No spawns.

-Bebi Vegeta could possibly get zenkais, but I highly doubt it, as he got a Golden Onzaru instead of a Super Sayajin 4, which implies that he doesn't have full access to Sayajin abilities.

-None of them can learn moves on sight.

-None of them have combat experience. Bebi is a parasite, Super 17 is a combination of two teenage brats, Omega Shenron is a Shenron, and they were never meant of combat and I don't see why the evil one should be meant for combat.

-No healing.

So, let's tally that up, everything (including every individual move) gives one point:

Z Villains: 33

GT Villains: 8

I rest my case.
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Does that really make sense to you "Deep thought"? I can understand blinding hatred for GT, but dude, you have to actually pay attention when you watch it. Omega Shenron has way more then 2 moves. He has all the moves of all 7 dragons. He demonstrated this when he first became Omega and fought SSJ4 Goku, he did all the moves to him. Plus he has his own moves. Like I said, with Super 17's absorption they can't lose. Frieza isn't "smart", not sure where you're getting that from. If you're saying that because he blew up Namek in order to kill Goku cause he knew he could live in space, that's not even close to a good enough reason.
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Does that really make sense to you "Deep thought"? I can understand blinding hatred for GT, but dude, you have to actually pay attention when you watch it. Omega Shenron has way more then 2 moves. He has all the moves of all 7 dragons. He demonstrated this when he first became Omega and fought SSJ4 Goku, he did all the moves to him. Plus he has his own moves. Like I said, with Super 17's absorption they can't lose. Frieza isn't "smart", not sure where you're getting that from. If you're saying that because he blew up Namek in order to kill Goku cause he knew he could live in space, that's not even close to a good enough reason.
Yes it is. It shows tactical thinking. He is also articulate, and the son of a King. All of these things point to a classy education, and whilst this may not make him intelligent outright, they damn well imply it.
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Yes it is. It shows tactical thinking. He is also articulate, and the son of a King. All of these things point to a classy education, and whilst this may not make him intelligent outright, they damn well imply it.
Frieza is a very good fighter, and that's all that shows. Honestly, I think almost anyone would have used that tactic if there life depended on it. For someone who's so smart, he should have been fighting at his 100% the entire time against Goku.
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Frieza is a very good fighter, and that's all that shows. Honestly, I think almost anyone would have used that tactic if there life depended on it. For someone who's so smart, he should have been fighting at his 100% the entire time against Goku.
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