Dabura vs. LSSJ Broly (Movie 8) - Page 5

Devilz · 05-08-2008

Yup I agree Dabura > LSSJ Broly (Movie 8) in every way, including strength, speed, skill, intelligence, and maybe looks.

Evil Vegeta · 05-08-2008

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Originally Posted by Madness

I dunno. Movie 8 Broly is weaker than Movie 10 (possibly). I can only see Movie 10 Broly being able to beat Dabura.

I made the same mistake you did. I was referring to #10 Broly instead of the other Broly.

SSJ4 Vegito · 05-09-2008

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Originally Posted by Brolyis2strong

Broly wins with the Flawless victory.

Broly is between an SS2 and SS3. Dabura is only equal to a weaker MSS.
Go figure

How exactly is Broly especially in Movie 8 anywhere REMOTLY CLOSE to a SSJ3 or hell even a SSJ2.

I mean even if Broly did fight Mastered SSJs what's so special about that? Perfect Cell (Full Power) can do that too.

Vagrant Lustoid 2 · 05-09-2008

The way I've always seen it is that Dabra is roughly equal to the full power of Perfect Cell, as stated by Goku, which is why the battle is so even with "MSSJ" Gohan (who I personally believe is only SSJ by this point). LSSJ Broly I've always put at about the power Perfect Cell shows against Super Vegeta, perhaps up to the warm-up against Goku, no more than that.

To me at least, Dabra wins this easily, even without the spit.

SRP76 · 05-09-2008

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Originally Posted by Brolyis2strong

Going by your logic

Videl Full Power>>>>All Super Saiyans>>>>Androids>>Frieza>>>Krillin,etc

Whay not? That's the same imaginary logic all you Broly fans use to make him stronger than he is.

"Oh, he got killed, so he must not have been at full power". Please.

Ames · 05-09-2008

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Originally Posted by Brolyis2strong

Broly wins with the Flawless victory.

Broly is between an SS2 and SS3. Dabura is only equal to a weaker MSS.
Go figure

May I dare you to support your ludacris statement with real facts?

vicdmx · 05-09-2008

Dabura>LSSJ Broly(Movie 8) by a bit.

LSSJ Broly(Movie 10)>>Dabura.

In my opinion because has we know MSSJ Goku(Energy from his friends)>LSSJ Broly(Movie 8) and I think that Dabura>=MSSJ Goku(Energy from his friends)

So if you count that then Dabura is stronger than LSSJ Broly(Movie 8).

Broly The LSSJ · 05-09-2008

Alot of you seem lost.

Going by your logic, you put Broly below a MSSJ Goku because he supposedly beat him in Movie 8 but forget to take into account that he was hardly near full power and Goku was a MSSJ but the added energy put him marginally above the level Broly was currently at. So, this means that Goku was a good deal stronger than MSSJ Gohan at the end.

Then you say Dabura can beat Broly because hes on equal terms with a MSSJ. Broly was shown to dominate them with no effort and SSJ Adult Gohan (whos pretty weak) was giving Dabura some trouble. If I had to place his power level, I'd say hes close to Perfect Cell (Suppressed).

This versus thread should be changed to SSJ Broly vs. Dabura. That would be a much better fight considering they seem somewhat closer in strength. LSSJ Broly, even from Movie 8 would squash Dabura because hes stronger than FP Perfect Cell making this not much of a fight. Obviously, The only chance he has is the cheap spitting move.

My best guess for Broly's full power (Movie 10) would be in between a SSJ2 and SSJ3 after the zenkai he received. You have to remember how large of a boost those give a Saiyan, let alone a LSSJ. Dabura stands absolutely no chance here.

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Originally Posted by vicdmx

In my opinion because has we know MSSJ Goku(Energy from his friends)>LSSJ Broly(Movie 8) and I think that Dabura>=MSSJ Goku(Energy from his friends)
So if you count that then Dabura is stronger than LSSJ Broly(Movie 8).

So you're saying that Dabura is stronger than MSSJ Teen Gohan? I find that kinda hard to believe.

Devilz · 05-09-2008

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Originally Posted by BrolytheLSSJ

but forget to take into account that he was hardly near full power

Of course, why take into account something that's not true?

Ames · 05-09-2008

[quote=BrolytheLSSJ;988585]Alot of you seem lost.

Yes, saying that about 80% of us state the fact that Perfect Cell 50-100%>/=Dabura>LSSJ Movie 8 Broly...

Going by your logic, you put Broly below a MSSJ Goku because he supposedly beat him in Movie 8 but forget to take into account that he was hardly near full power and Goku was a MSSJ but the added energy put him marginally above the level Broly was currently at. So, this means that Goku was a good deal stronger than MSSJ Gohan at the end.

You're negating the fact that they were mid-rosat fighters. It contradicts the manga that SSJ Gohan was the weakest in this movie (If he, or Goku were MSSJ's, Gohan would be the strongest). MOVIE 8 = NO MSSJ'S.

Then you say Dabura can beat Broly because hes on equal terms with a MSSJ. Broly was shown to dominate them with no effort and SSJ Adult Gohan (whos pretty weak) was giving Dabura some trouble. If I had to place his power level, I'd say hes close to Perfect Cell (Suppressed).

No, it is stated that Dabura is stronger than a MSSJ, due to the FACT that he was on par with 50-100% Perfect Cell, which was STATED in the manga. Gohan was a SSJ2 vs. Dabura and only a SSJ vs. Broly (Movie 10).

This versus thread should be changed to SSJ Broly vs. Dabura. That would be a much better fight considering they seem somewhat closer in strength. LSSJ Broly, even from Movie 8 would squash Dabura because hes stronger than FP Perfect Cell making this not much of a fight. Obviously, The only chance he has is the cheap spitting move.

Again, how is Broly in movie 8 stronger then full power Seru??

My best guess for Broly's full power (Movie 10) would be in between a SSJ2 and SSJ3 after the zenkai he received. You have to remember how large of a boost those give a Saiyan, let alone a LSSJ. Dabura stands absolutely no chance here.

I agree to the fact that LSSJ Broly (Movie 10)>Dabura. But he isn't remotely close to a SSJ2, let alone a SSJ3. He fought against a SSJ in movie 10.

Deep thought · 05-09-2008

Show me one instance where it was stated that Broly could suppress his power.

Not only is suppressing power completely against Broly's nature, but where would he learn that? This isn't self-taught, unless you watched someone else do it, so he had to learn it from someone. From whom, Paragus? He isn't going to listen to anyone else besides maybe him, but when did Paragus learn to suppress his chi? Paragus is not exactly a combat expert.

Now, some people could say that he learned it from observing another race using it. I highly doubt it, as Broly's only thought when he invaded other planets was probably "KILL! KILL! KILL!", and I doubt that he had the patience to watch the ability. Not only that, but even Broly fans will have to admit that Broly is stupider and not as much o a combat expert compared to Vegeta. So, while it may be easy to learn for Vegeta, it might not be as easy for Broly to learn.

vicdmx · 05-09-2008

Goku and Gohan were MSSJ´s Ames, can´t you see there dark blond hair!?! they were MSSJ´s!

and BrolytheLSSJ Gohan was a SSJ2 fighting Dabura so yes Dabura in my opinion is stronger than MSSJ Teen Gohan.

Broly The LSSJ · 05-09-2008

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Yes, saying that about 80% of us state the fact that Perfect Cell 50-100%>/=Dabura>LSSJ Movie 8 Broly...

Perfect Cell (Suppressed) >/= Broly is out of the question. Its obvious from Dabura's fight with SSJ Gohan that hes nowhere near FP Perfect Cell.

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You're negating the fact that they were mid-rosat fighters. It contradicts the manga that SSJ Gohan was the weakest in this movie (If he, or Goku were MSSJ's, Gohan would be the strongest). MOVIE 8 = NO MSSJ'S.

Uhh, Gohan was the strongest next to Broly in the movie, meaning he was a MSSJ.

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No, it is stated that Dabura is stronger than a MSSJ, due to the FACT that he was on par with 50-100% Perfect Cell, which was STATED in the manga. Gohan was a SSJ2 vs. Dabura and only a SSJ vs. Broly (Movie 10).

Yeah, suppressed Cell. Meaning hes on PAR with a MSSJ. But being on par with FP Perfect Cell is just wack with the evidence from his fight with Gohan. His only chance is the spitting move.

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Gohan was a SSJ2 vs. Dabura and only a SSJ vs. Broly (Movie 10).

More like the other way around. He can't be a SSJ2 vs. Dabura because Vegeta said he can take him out and he meant as a SSJ since his form was already above FP Perfect Cell in the Buu Saga.

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Again, how is Broly in movie 8 stronger then full power Seru??

Only at full power he would be.

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I agree to the fact that LSSJ Broly (Movie 10)>Dabura. But he isn't remotely close to a SSJ2, let alone a SSJ3. He fought against a SSJ in movie 10.

More like Movie 10 Broly >>>>>> Dabura. He owned SSJ2 Gohan in their fight.

vicdmx · 05-09-2008

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Originally Posted by BrolytheLSSJ

Perfect Cell (Suppressed) >/= Broly is out of the question. Its obvious from Dabura's fight with SSJ Gohan that hes nowhere near FP Perfect Cell.

Uhh, Gohan was the strongest next to Broly in the movie, meaning he was a MSSJ.

Yeah, suppressed Cell. Meaning hes on PAR with a MSSJ. But being on par with FP Perfect Cell is just wack with the evidence from his fight with Gohan. His only chance is the spitting move.

More like the other way around. He can't be a SSJ2 vs. Dabura because Vegeta said he can take him out and he meant as a SSJ since his form was already above FP Perfect Cell.

Only at full power he would be.

More like Movie 10 Broly >>>>>> Dabura. He owned SSJ2 Gohan in their fight.

SSJ2 Gohan was NEVER OWNED he was kind of beaten but never exactly OWNED! Movie 10 broly lssj>>>Dabura.

Ames · 05-09-2008

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Originally Posted by BrolytheLSSJ

Perfect Cell (Suppressed) >/= Broly is out of the question. Its obvious from Dabura's fight with SSJ Gohan that hes nowhere near FP Perfect Cell.
Yes, my mistake. I don't know why I typed SSJ2, I meant SSJ. That was an error on my part.

Uhh, Gohan was the strongest next to Broly in the movie, meaning he was a MSSJ.
I still don't see where Gohan was second to Broly in Movie 8.

More like the other way around. He can't be a SSJ2 vs. Dabura because Vegeta said he can take him out and he meant as a SSJ since his form was already above FP Perfect Cell in the Buu Saga.
Agreed... My mistake. Yes Vegeta states that he can defeat Dabura.

Only at full power he would be.
Where does it say Broly wasn't at his full power??

More like Movie 10 Broly >>>>>> Dabura. He owned SSJ2 Gohan in their fight.

i don't beleive it would be a dominating fight on Broly's part. Again, Gohan is a SSJ in Movie 10. Feel free to share information, in order to change my mind about Gohan being a SSJ2.

05-09-2008	#64 (permalink)
Vagrant Lustoid 2 (13) Great Ape Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 278 Rep Power: 2	Re: Dabura vs. LSSJ Broly (Movie 8) The way I've always seen it is that Dabra is roughly equal to the full power of Perfect Cell, as stated by Goku, which is why the battle is so even with "MSSJ" Gohan (who I personally believe is only SSJ by this point). LSSJ Broly I've always put at about the power Perfect Cell shows against Super Vegeta, perhaps up to the warm-up against Goku, no more than that. To me at least, Dabra wins this easily, even without the spit.

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vicdmx (13) Great Ape Join Date: May 2008 Location: Spain Posts: 278 Rep Power: 1	Re: Dabura vs. LSSJ Broly (Movie 8) Dabura>LSSJ Broly(Movie 8) by a bit. LSSJ Broly(Movie 10)>>Dabura. In my opinion because has we know MSSJ Goku(Energy from his friends)>LSSJ Broly(Movie 8) and I think that Dabura>=MSSJ Goku(Energy from his friends) So if you count that then Dabura is stronger than LSSJ Broly(Movie 8).

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Ames (13) Great Ape Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Madrid, Espana Posts: 316 Rep Power: 3	Re: Dabura vs. LSSJ Broly (Movie 8) [quote=BrolytheLSSJ;988585]Alot of you seem lost. Yes, saying that about 80% of us state the fact that Perfect Cell 50-100%>/=Dabura>LSSJ Movie 8 Broly... Going by your logic, you put Broly below a MSSJ Goku because he supposedly beat him in Movie 8 but forget to take into account that he was hardly near full power and Goku was a MSSJ but the added energy put him marginally above the level Broly was currently at. So, this means that Goku was a good deal stronger than MSSJ Gohan at the end. You're negating the fact that they were mid-rosat fighters. It contradicts the manga that SSJ Gohan was the weakest in this movie (If he, or Goku were MSSJ's, Gohan would be the strongest). MOVIE 8 = NO MSSJ'S. Then you say Dabura can beat Broly because hes on equal terms with a MSSJ. Broly was shown to dominate them with no effort and SSJ Adult Gohan (whos pretty weak) was giving Dabura some trouble. If I had to place his power level, I'd say hes close to Perfect Cell (Suppressed). No, it is stated that Dabura is stronger than a MSSJ, due to the FACT that he was on par with 50-100% Perfect Cell, which was STATED in the manga. Gohan was a SSJ2 vs. Dabura and only a SSJ vs. Broly (Movie 10). This versus thread should be changed to SSJ Broly vs. Dabura. That would be a much better fight considering they seem somewhat closer in strength. LSSJ Broly, even from Movie 8 would squash Dabura because hes stronger than FP Perfect Cell making this not much of a fight. Obviously, The only chance he has is the cheap spitting move. Again, how is Broly in movie 8 stronger then full power Seru?? My best guess for Broly's full power (Movie 10) would be in between a SSJ2 and SSJ3 after the zenkai he received. You have to remember how large of a boost those give a Saiyan, let alone a LSSJ. Dabura stands absolutely no chance here. I agree to the fact that LSSJ Broly (Movie 10)>Dabura. But he isn't remotely close to a SSJ2, let alone a SSJ3. He fought against a SSJ in movie 10. __________________ Ignorance is Bliss... Last edited by Ames; 05-09-2008 at 12:38 PM. Reason: Computer froze and wouldn't let me multi-quote.

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Deep thought (18) Artificial Human Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: America, vague, huh??? Posts: 902 Rep Power: 5	Re: Dabura vs. LSSJ Broly (Movie 8) Show me one instance where it was stated that Broly could suppress his power. Not only is suppressing power completely against Broly's nature, but where would he learn that? This isn't self-taught, unless you watched someone else do it, so he had to learn it from someone. From whom, Paragus? He isn't going to listen to anyone else besides maybe him, but when did Paragus learn to suppress his chi? Paragus is not exactly a combat expert. Now, some people could say that he learned it from observing another race using it. I highly doubt it, as Broly's only thought when he invaded other planets was probably "KILL! KILL! KILL!", and I doubt that he had the patience to watch the ability. Not only that, but even Broly fans will have to admit that Broly is stupider and not as much o a combat expert compared to Vegeta. So, while it may be easy to learn for Vegeta, it might not be as easy for Broly to learn. __________________

05-09-2008	#72 (permalink)
vicdmx (13) Great Ape Join Date: May 2008 Location: Spain Posts: 278 Rep Power: 1	Re: Dabura vs. LSSJ Broly (Movie 8) Goku and Gohan were MSSJ´s Ames, can´t you see there dark blond hair!?! they were MSSJ´s! and BrolytheLSSJ Gohan was a SSJ2 fighting Dabura so yes Dabura in my opinion is stronger than MSSJ Teen Gohan.