SSJ Adult Gohan vs. SSJ Broly (Movie 10) - Page 2

Evil Vegeta · 05-03-2008

Didn't they disappear right after that?

uki1234 · 05-03-2008

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Originally Posted by Evil Vegeta

The question is, do you know how to read?

Look up the word "considerably", and understand what it means before you blurt anything out like this. MSSJ isn't considerbly stronger then SSJ, SSJ2 is. Besides, I've read Duo's post awhile back and liked it. oHowever, they were post-rosat. Gohan got weaker over the seven years anyway, so how would he be considerably stronger then himself as a kid, even if he was a weak SSJ when he fought Broly? That makes no sense.

"MSSJ isn't considerbly stronger then SSJ."

You are definitely on weed

"they were post-rosat" - No way.

1.2 is considerably stronger in dbz, by the way.

Evil Vegeta · 05-03-2008

You're clearly reading what you want to read.

Gohan grew WEAKER over the seven years. It doesn't matter if he's a MSSJ or not; he was much weaker. If you called him a weak SSJ in the first battle, what the hell is he after not training for seven years?

vicdmx · 05-03-2008

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Originally Posted by uki1234

"MSSJ isn't considerbly stronger then SSJ."

You are definitely on weed

"they were post-rosat" - No way.

1.2 is considerably stronger in dbz, by the way.

MSSJ is stronger than SSJ Evil Vegeta.

Wake up?! stop taking weed man! LOL.

vicdmx · 05-03-2008

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Originally Posted by Evil Vegeta

You're clearly reading what you want to read.

Gohan grew WEAKER over the seven years. It doesn't matter if he's a MSSJ or not; he was much weaker. If you called him a weak SSJ in the first battle, what the hell is he after not training for seven years?

after those 7 years Gohan was still a MSSJ so he is just really a weak MSSJ?!

SSJ4 Vegito · 05-03-2008

I think the sparks did disappear, but that's not the reason why I think Gohan was not a SSJ2 in the Movie. I don't think he was a SSJ2 because, when Videl was being beaten up by Spopovich he had hair that was identical to SSJ2 but no sparks. Aswell as a few other reasons, but I don't feel like listing them all.

Broly · 05-03-2008

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Originally Posted by SSJ4 Vegito

Wait, what makes you think Bojack's first form is so powerful? I mean MSSJ Gohan (Cell Saga) held his own against Bojack's transformed state. Plus Bojack performed a few combinations on SSJ Vegeta before he was finally knocked out so I don't think Bojack's first form is as strong as MSSJ Gohan.
Also I don't think Gohan was using full power when he was sparring Goten because, he doesn't exhibit a Mastered SSJ aura like he does the other times he goes SSJ. Plus Goten was on the offensive the whole time Gohan just blocked all of his attacks. I think that Gohan was suppressing his power like Goku was during his little "warm up" against Cell. So really I think Gohan could win if he used all his power like he did against Dabura.

First off, a lot of Bojack's power is based on opinion. Nothing is certain. But if you watch the fight again, you'll see that Bojack is just toying around with Gohan. He has no serious demeanor about him, indicating he's merely playing. Second, Gohan himself states in the movie that Bojack's power [1st form] was "incredible", hinting to either one of two things: He was at least just as strong as MSSj Gohan, or he was stronger.

Though Gohan didn't have an aura while fighting Goten, that in no way means he wasn't MSSj. Many people here do not even understand the concept of what MSSj is. And I'm not ragging on anyone, but it's just the truth. All it is, is having learned to get used to the restless feel of the Super Saiyan state. That's all. Since Gohan achieved this in the Cell Arc, then he always will be a MSSj since you cannot "unlearn" something. It's like riding a bike, except that in this case, it's a lot more natural.

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Originally Posted by uki1234

Do you know how to read?

I've gave you proof that Gohan in movie 8 was in mid-rosat training. He was weak SSJ, not MSSJ

It's you who needs to learn to read my friend. Dragon Ball GT Section: Commentery on Broly Thread. Please read!! I've tried to get you to read it for like the third time now. And if you have anything to say about the Mid-RoSaT Theory, in can be in the form of a rebuttle to what I have said in that first post in the thread. Otherwise...

uki1234 · 05-03-2008

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Originally Posted by Evil Vegeta

You're clearly reading what you want to read.

Gohan grew WEAKER over the seven years. It doesn't matter if he's a MSSJ or not; he was much weaker. If you called him a weak SSJ in the first battle, what the hell is he after not training for seven years?

He hasn't lost more than 80% of his power for sure...

SSJ4 Vegito · 05-03-2008

I know what a MSSJ is I just don't think Gohan was exerting his Full Power against Goten because it wouldn't be fair if Gohan was at FP and Goten wasn't. I know he's a MSSJ but I think the lack of aura means he's not using Full Power, I never said he wasn't a MSSJ. Sorry for the mix up.

Broly The LSSJ · 05-03-2008

I'll set the record straight people:

Gohan as a TEEN in Movie 8 as a MASTERED SSJ was stronger than his ADULT self 7 years later.

In Movie 10, Base Broly was perfectly capable of beating Base Gohan as SSJ Broly was perfectly capable of beating SSJ Gohan.

Broly · 05-03-2008

Oh no, it's my fault for not understanding you correctly. But actually, there's another point in time where it's shown in the manga that both Gohan and Goten are intensely training for the 25th Budokai. In the page-sized panel, it shows both as Super Saiyans-aura and all, intensely fighting. So, from the looks of it, Goten is not far from Gohan in terms of power. This means that Broly would pretty much cast aside Gohan, maybe not in the same likeness as he did with Goten and Trunks, but overall, nonetheless.

uki1234 · 05-03-2008

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Originally Posted by Broly

First off, a lot of Bojack's power is based on opinion. Nothing is certain. But if you watch the fight again, you'll see that Bojack is just toying around with Gohan. He has no serious demeanor about him, indicating he's merely playing. Second, Gohan himself states in the movie that Bojack's power [1st form] was "incredible", hinting to either one of two things: He was at least just as strong as MSSj Gohan, or he was stronger.

Though Gohan didn't have an aura while fighting Goten, that in no way means he wasn't MSSj. Many people here do not even understand the concept of what MSSj is. And I'm not ragging on anyone, but it's just the truth. All it is, is having learned to get used to the restless feel of the Super Saiyan state. That's all. Since Gohan achieved this in the Cell Arc, then he always will be a MSSj since you cannot "unlearn" something. It's like riding a bike, except that in this case, it's a lot more natural.

It's you who needs to learn to read my friend. Dragon Ball GT Section: Commentery on Broly Thread. Please read!! I've tried to get you to read it for like the third time now. And if you have anything to say about the Mid-RoSaT Theory, in can be in the form of a rebuttle to what I have said in that first post in the thread. Otherwise...

Gohans' hairstyle alone tells us that its about mid-rosat training.

I know that what you have wrote makes sense, but you cant use non-canon stuf. If you use them, then you agree with SSJ3 Goku > Mystic Gohan and untrue stuff like that.

If you want to put movie into canon timeline, you have to use canon(manga) stuf, not another movie stuf.

So if you want to compare Broly to other canon chartacters, you have to use canon stuff, which proves that they cant be MSSJ.

Evil Vegeta · 05-03-2008

Gohan's hair from #8 looks the same as it did during the Cell Games.

vicdmx · 05-03-2008

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Originally Posted by Evil Vegeta

Gohan's hair from #8 looks the same as it did during the Cell Games.

That´s because he was MSSJ.

uki1234 · 05-03-2008

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Originally Posted by Evil Vegeta

Gohan's hair from #8 looks the same as it did during the Cell Games.

Its similar, but not identical.
Its identical to the time when Goku was transforming to USSJ. Take a better look, compare the backsides of hair.

05-03-2008	#21 (permalink)
SSJ4 Vegito (23) Final Warrior Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 2,810 Rep Power: 52	Re: SSJ Adult Gohan vs. SSJ Broly (Movie 10) I think the sparks did disappear, but that's not the reason why I think Gohan was not a SSJ2 in the Movie. I don't think he was a SSJ2 because, when Videl was being beaten up by Spopovich he had hair that was identical to SSJ2 but no sparks. Aswell as a few other reasons, but I don't feel like listing them all.

05-03-2008	#24 (permalink)
SSJ4 Vegito (23) Final Warrior Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 2,810 Rep Power: 52	Re: SSJ Adult Gohan vs. SSJ Broly (Movie 10) I know what a MSSJ is I just don't think Gohan was exerting his Full Power against Goten because it wouldn't be fair if Gohan was at FP and Goten wasn't. I know he's a MSSJ but I think the lack of aura means he's not using Full Power, I never said he wasn't a MSSJ. Sorry for the mix up.

05-03-2008	#25 (permalink)
Broly The LSSJ (15) Super Namekian Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 430 Rep Power: 6	Re: SSJ Adult Gohan vs. SSJ Broly (Movie 10) I'll set the record straight people: Gohan as a TEEN in Movie 8 as a MASTERED SSJ was stronger than his ADULT self 7 years later. In Movie 10, Base Broly was perfectly capable of beating Base Gohan as SSJ Broly was perfectly capable of beating SSJ Gohan. __________________ "I Will Teach You The Meaning of Pain!"

05-03-2008	#26 (permalink)
Broly G-Villain Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: The Big Bad Walk. Posts: 7,414 Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 23	Re: SSJ Adult Gohan vs. SSJ Broly (Movie 10) Oh no, it's my fault for not understanding you correctly. But actually, there's another point in time where it's shown in the manga that both Gohan and Goten are intensely training for the 25th Budokai. In the page-sized panel, it shows both as Super Saiyans-aura and all, intensely fighting. So, from the looks of it, Goten is not far from Gohan in terms of power. This means that Broly would pretty much cast aside Gohan, maybe not in the same likeness as he did with Goten and Trunks, but overall, nonetheless. __________________ $E:\Avatars\Broly_by_Hikas.jpg$ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mb58XZk9cpY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUgQB...eature=related