LSSJ Broly(Movie 10)&Super Perfect Cell&Bojack Transformed Vs. Fat Buu - Page 4

Devilz · 05-04-2008

I meant a bit stronger than half of Goku's power, like in the Cell Games.

SRP76 · 05-04-2008

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I meant a bit stronger than half of Goku's power, like in the Cell Games.

So you think Goku didn't gain as much as Vegeta, even though they said so? Or that Goku gained more?

Devilz · 05-04-2008

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So you think Goku didn't gain as much as Vegeta, even though they said so? Or that Goku gained more?

I think he gained less.

When Vegeta said "no amount of training could have closed the gap between the two" that's exactly right. Goku was always one step ahead of him. He couldn't catch up to Goku, but that doesn't mean he didn't get closer.

SRP76 · 05-04-2008

Getting closer would be closing the gap.

Goku claimed he had the most intense training in Otherworld. Vegeta was busy doing the same old sh*t. Everything they say and do points to Goku maintaining that same power advantage (as well as other things, like base Goku facing Goten and Trunks at the Lookout, as opposed to Super Saiyan Vegeta facing Trunks in the gravitron).

Devilz · 05-04-2008

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Getting closer would be closing the gap.

Yes, but my interpretation of the statement is that Vegeta would never be equal to Goku, but with intense training he could have closed the gap just a bit, not completely.

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as opposed to Super Saiyan Vegeta facing Trunks in the gravitron

You expect him to power down to fight Trunks?

SRP76 · 05-04-2008

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You expect him to power down to fight Trunks?

No. But base Goku got hit full-on by BOTH kids releasing their ki, and didn't even flinch (while Piccolo got tossed like the S.S. Minnow). Vegeta supposedly "struggled, and couldn't block Trunks' punch". Unless Goku was a lot more powerful than Vegeta, these two things wouldn't make any sense.

Devilz · 05-04-2008

Yeah the difference is Vegeta underestimated Trunks' power (he was already surprised he was SSJ) and Goku saw them at the tournament already and knew what they were capable of. Unless you think SSJ Trunks was near SSJ Vegeta which would be awkward.

GikuHonishimo · 05-04-2008

I'd love to say Fat Buu, but going by Toei logic, Broly would own everyone on this list, so meh. By manga logic, Fat Buu rapes them all at once, by Toei logic, Broly rapes them all at once.

Devilz · 05-04-2008

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going by Toei logic, Broly would own everyone on this list

Going by Toei logic he still can't beat Fat Buu.

**Broly** · 05-04-2008

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I'd love to say Fat Buu, but going by Toei logic, Broly would own everyone on this list, so meh. By manga logic, Fat Buu rapes them all at once, by Toei logic, Broly rapes them all at once.

Halleluiah! You're my prophet MON!

Deep thought · 05-04-2008

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Actually, it kinda is Remix, if you believe Gohan was SSj2 in Movie 10, then Broly would be the only match for Mr. Buu.

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Super Perfect Cell is equal to Super Sayajin 2 Gohan, in my opinion.

Gohan likely lost 1.3x his former power in the 10 years. So, I think that Broly is equal to SPC, because he was only 1.3x stronger than Gohan IMO. In fact, I'd put it at less than that, because that's the Vegeta-Cui difference, and Gohan was actually able to land a few punches on Broly and get out of his grapple, something that can't be done with a 1.3x difference.

This is assuming that Gohan was Super Sayajin 2. Anyway, Fat Buu wins, because an infinite number of SSJ2s wouldn't be enough to phase Buu. Bojack dies first, Broly dies second due to his stupidity, and Cell might last a while due to his techniques and regeneration, but he'd still die pretty quickly.

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Just like Mr Buu Buu would have lasted a while against Aku Buu?

By "lasting awhile", I meant lasting more than a few seconds. Cell would last for more than a few seconds, because of his regeneration which would take a while for a dumb-ass like Fat Buu to figure out, and his techniques.

**Broly** · 05-04-2008

There's a couple things you're blatantly mistaken about here. One, the gap was 7 years, not 10. Two, Broly had to at least be 1.3x Gohan's SSj2 power because he took absolutely no damage from his attacks. Gohan's first attack landed in Broly's face, and it didn't even make him blink. He was nowhere near phased, and this cannot be denied. So however Gohan got out of Broly's hold, it was due either to skill or done for the plot.

SRP76 · 05-04-2008

How is simply flexing his arms and powering out of a hold "due to skill"? It was strength-based.

And the "it was done for plot" could be said about Broly "taking Gohan's punch", too.

**Broly** · 05-04-2008

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How is simply flexing his arms and powering out of a hold "due to skill"? It was strength-based.

And the "it was done for plot" could be said about Broly "taking Gohan's punch", too.

1. Perhaps. But he only mustered enough strength to bend his arms a bit forward and flip back and knee him in the face. Still, there was no effect.

2. Yes indeedy.

Evil Vegeta · 05-04-2008

Gohan also broke out of Broly's bear hug as well; so maybe he's just good at releasing himself from things like that.

05-04-2008	#49 (permalink)
SRP76 (21) Majin Warrior Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,689 Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 7	Re: LSSJ Broly(Movie 10)&Super Perfect Cell&Bojack Transformed Vs. Fat Buu Getting closer would be closing the gap. Goku claimed he had the most intense training in Otherworld. Vegeta was busy doing the same old sh*t. Everything they say and do points to Goku maintaining that same power advantage (as well as other things, like base Goku facing Goten and Trunks at the Lookout, as opposed to Super Saiyan Vegeta facing Trunks in the gravitron).

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GikuHonishimo (20) Super Saiyan 2 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: I live behind closed eyes Posts: 1,236 Rep Power: 5	Re: LSSJ Broly(Movie 10)&Super Perfect Cell&Bojack Transformed Vs. Fat Buu I'd love to say Fat Buu, but going by Toei logic, Broly would own everyone on this list, so meh. By manga logic, Fat Buu rapes them all at once, by Toei logic, Broly rapes them all at once. __________________ - My official DBZ fanfiction.

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Broly Moderator Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: The Valley Posts: 6,961 Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 12	Re: LSSJ Broly(Movie 10)&Super Perfect Cell&Bojack Transformed Vs. Fat Buu There's a couple things you're blatantly mistaken about here. One, the gap was 7 years, not 10. Two, Broly had to at least be 1.3x Gohan's SSj2 power because he took absolutely no damage from his attacks. Gohan's first attack landed in Broly's face, and it didn't even make him blink. He was nowhere near phased, and this cannot be denied. So however Gohan got out of Broly's hold, it was due either to skill or done for the plot. __________________ $E:\Avatars\RockstarSponsor.jpg$ Numeros MFG -*Cinco-*

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SRP76 (21) Majin Warrior Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,689 Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 7	Re: LSSJ Broly(Movie 10)&Super Perfect Cell&Bojack Transformed Vs. Fat Buu How is simply flexing his arms and powering out of a hold "due to skill"? It was strength-based. And the "it was done for plot" could be said about Broly "taking Gohan's punch", too.