SSJ2 Vegito (Buu Saga) vs. SSJ4 Goku (Surpassed Limits) - Page 4

**Majuub** · 05-02-2008

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Originally Posted by apocalypse1280

And why is this?

Because SSJ3 Goku is weaker than SSJ Vegeto and only as an SSJ4 does he surpass him, if Vegeto gets to the next level, it's obvious the difference will return.

apocalypse1280 · 05-02-2008

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Originally Posted by Deep thought

How the fuck is Goku supposed to get that kind of boost with ten years of regular training? I know that it's ten years, but come on.

How did he go from a SSJ(Cell arc) to a SSJ3(Buu arc) in 7 years in DBZ? Not only that but he trained with Uub, who is stronger then anyone else he's ever trained with, in a special room specifically designed for him and Uub to train in, which was very similar to the Hyperbolic Time Chamber. Not really 'normal' training.

apocalypse1280 · 05-02-2008

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Originally Posted by Majuub

Because SSJ3 Goku is weaker than SSJ Vegeto and only as an SSJ4 does he surpass him, if Vegeto gets to the next level, it's obvious the difference will return.

Thats not a reason.

**Majuub** · 05-02-2008

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Originally Posted by apocalypse1280

Thats not a reason.

Yeah, what a god damn good argument you pulled of.

apocalypse1280 · 05-03-2008

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Originally Posted by Majuub

Yeah, what a god damn good argument you pulled of.

Ok blasphemer. Like I said SSJ Goku in GT is stronger then SSJ3 Goku in Z. So how strong would that make SSJ3 Goku in GT? Or SSJ4 Goku? It's just ridiculous to think SSJ2 Vegito would beat Omega Shenron, IMO.

Madness · 05-03-2008

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Originally Posted by apocalypse1280

Ok blasphemer. Like I said SSJ Goku in GT is stronger then SSJ3 Goku in Z. So how strong would that make SSJ3 Goku in GT? Or SSJ4 Goku? It's just ridiculous to think SSJ2 Vegito would beat Omega Shenron, IMO.

I'd say from SSJ form to SSJ4... maybe a times 10 multiplier. That'd take him above SSJ Vegetto IMO.

However, the bonus from SSJ2 would negate that IMO.

Of course, by this logic, SSJ2 Gogeta would be able to beat Omega Shenron too.

**Majuub** · 05-03-2008

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Originally Posted by apocalypse1280

Ok blasphemer. Like I said SSJ Goku in GT is stronger then SSJ3 Goku in Z. So how strong would that make SSJ3 Goku in GT? Or SSJ4 Goku? It's just ridiculous to think SSJ2 Vegito would beat Omega Shenron, IMO.

Vegeto was stated to be the strongest warrior in DBZ, SSJ3 Goku in GT was never stated to be stronger than him, only SSJ4 Goku was said to be above him. If SSJ Vegeto is still above SSJ3 Goku but under SSJ4 Goku, it means he is somewhere between them, if he powers up to SSJ4, then he'll just be back on top.

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Originally Posted by Madness

I'd say from SSJ form to SSJ4... maybe a times 10 multiplier. That'd take him above SSJ Vegetto IMO.

However, the bonus from SSJ2 would negate that IMO.

Of course, by this logic, SSJ2 Gogeta would be able to beat Omega Shenron too.

Honestly, I think it wouldn't make sense for base Gogeta or Vegeto(In GT) to be weaker than SSJ4 Goku or Vegeta, I just see any forms of the fusion being more powerful than any form of the seperated beings.

Madness · 05-03-2008

I think when they refer to Vegetto and Gogeta they mean the Z counterparts. Hell, base Vegetto (GT) would be incredibly stronger than SSJ4 Goku.

apocalypse1280 · 05-03-2008

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Originally Posted by Majuub

Vegeto was stated to be the strongest warrior in DBZ, SSJ3 Goku in GT was never stated to be stronger than him, only SSJ4 Goku was said to be above him. If SSJ Vegeto is still above SSJ3 Goku but under SSJ4 Goku, it means he is somewhere between them, if he powers up to SSJ4, then he'll just be back on top.

When and where does it say SSJ Vegito is stronger then SSJ3 Goku in GT? And that only SSJ4 Goku is stronger? When and where do they even mention Vegito in GT? Let me guess... when Trunks said Goku was giving Rilldo too much credit?

Never happened.

Madness · 05-03-2008

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Originally Posted by apocalypse1280

When and where does it say SSJ Vegito is stronger then SSJ3 Goku in GT? And that only SSJ4 Goku is stronger? When and where do they even mention Vegito in GT? Let me guess... when Trunks said Goku was giving Rilldo too much credit?

Never happened.

Because it's self-evident. Vegetto is a god compared to Goku.

**Majuub** · 05-03-2008

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Originally Posted by apocalypse1280

When and where does it say SSJ Vegito is stronger then SSJ3 Goku in GT? And that only SSJ4 Goku is stronger? When and where do they even mention Vegito in GT? Let me guess... when Trunks said Goku was giving Rilldo too much credit?

Never happened.

No, in Z it was stated Vegeto was the strongest character. Now, when we saw SSJ3 Goku in GT nothing special was said, but when we saw SSJ4 Goku, it was stated he was the most powerful thing ever seen. If SSJ3 Goku was stronger than SSJ Vegeto, why wasn't it stated he was the most powerful being ever seen? Simply because he wasn't.

Madness · 05-03-2008

Thanks. My GT knowledge ain't great TBH.

**Majuub** · 05-03-2008

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Originally Posted by Madness

Thanks. My GT knowledge ain't great TBH.

You miss nothing, honestly I envy you of not having watched much of GT.

Madness · 05-03-2008

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Originally Posted by Majuub

You miss nothing, honestly I envy you of not having watched much of GT.

Well after 30% of my brain cells commited seppuku after the first few episodes I decided to stop watching...

SSJ4 Gogeta was the best thing to come out of DBGT IMO.