Brothers vs Twins.

Cyrax · 04-22-2008

Freeza (Final form) and Cooler (Final form) vs A-17 and A-18.
At same Power level.
I think is an Interesting fight because both team are very diferent.
which team is the winner??? And Why???

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Devilz · 04-22-2008

17 and 18 are probably more skilled + have unlimited supply of energy. So they would win.

remixremix · 04-22-2008

At sme power level ill go with 17 and 18 because they have unlimited energy

maxoutedssj4 · 04-22-2008

Brothers would win. Why? Frieza and Cooler have a variety of techiques. Both Brothers have a planet-destroying attack and they also can live in space if the planet is destroyed.

Cyrax · 04-22-2008

In my opinion Freeza and Cooler win because they are more Intelligent, They have more Experience and Great techniques and abilities.
Android "unlimited supply of energy" is a bullshit.
Freeza survive the spirit bomb and after that he had a great supply of energy to fight against SSJ Goku (a stronger enemy)

Devilz · 04-22-2008

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In my opinion Freeza and Cooler win because they are more Intelligent, They have more Experience and Great techniques and abilities.

More experience? Frieza was suppressed sitting his ass on his chair for who knows how long, probably same with Cooler. They both lack fighting skills.

And I don't agree they are more intelligent.

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Android "unlimited supply of energy" is a bullshit.

No it's not. That means a lot if they both have equal power levels. Check Piccolo vs Android 17.

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Freeza survive the spirit bomb and after that he had a great supply of energy to fight against SSJ Goku (a stronger enemy)

Don't know what you are trying to say here, that Frieza is strong? Doesn't matter they all have equal levels in this scenario.

remixremix · 04-22-2008

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Brothers would win. Why? Frieza and Cooler have a variety of techiques. Both Brothers have a planet-destroying attack and they also can live in space if the planet is destroyed.

Who saying that the twins cant live in space

Cyrax · 04-22-2008

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More experience? Frieza was suppressed sitting his ass on his chair for who knows how long, probably same with Cooler. They both lack fighting skills.

You can see in the First Cooler movie that Cooler conquering planets with his hetchmens.
And you can see in Freeza saga that Freeza fight bersus: Namekian warriors, Nail, King Vegeta, Bardock, Prince Vegeta, Piccolo (Fused Nail), Gohan, Krillin, SSJ Goku and SSJ Trunks.
Android 18 fight versus Vegeta and Trunks and A-17 fight piccolo.
Obviously Freeza and Cooler had much experience.

Devilz · 04-22-2008

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You can see in the First Cooler movie that Cooler conquering planets with his hetchmens.

All I saw was him sitting on his chair giving out orders.

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And you can see in Freeza saga that Freeza fight bersus: Namekian warriors, Nail, King Vegeta, Bardock, Prince Vegeta, Piccolo (Fused Nail), Gohan, Krillin, SSJ Goku and SSJ Trunks.

Half of those people he could beat in like one hit. When he fought against Goku he was outmatched for the first time and was blinded by anger. Against Trunks he was utterly owned.

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Obviously Freeza and Cooler had much experience.

More experience than the Androids then, but it still won't save them from losing this fight.

Cyrax · 04-22-2008

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Who saying that the twins cant live in space

17 and 18 are half humans. They need to Breathe.

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More experience than the Androids then, but it still won't save them from losing this fight.

And Freeza and Cooler live like warriors for many years. I thinks they have many battles to became Leaders. Androids only live for few days.

And....What do you mean with Androids skill???? I never saw one

Devilz · 04-22-2008

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And Freeza and Cooler live like warriors for many years. I thinks they have many battles to became Leaders.

I'm gonna have to disagree and say that they were both naturally strong.

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And....What do you mean with Androids skill???? I never saw one

Piccolo vs 17 might be a good example.

SSJ4 Vegito · 04-23-2008

I'd go with the Androids since they have data on the Z Fighters and their enemies and they also have unlimited Ki. They also can put barriers up around themselves. Yes, Cooler & Freiza do have alot of techniques but to be honest their nothing the Androids can't handle:

Death Beam: This is an Attack that can be evaded.
Imprisonment Ball: This could come in handy but to be honest Goku broke out of it so the Androids could do it too.
Death Ball: This might work but they need to distract the Androids somehow and with it being 2 on 2 one will have to fight the other. Also I don't see why 17 & 18 would care if the Planet blows up since the Androids can breath in Space.
Death Saucer: They can evade it and just lead them into Cooler and Freiza.
So all these techniques were defended against in the past by Goku. So I don't see why 17 & 18 couldn't do the same thing and plus their infinite stamina would give them a huge advantage. So I'm going with the Androids.

Cyrax · 04-23-2008

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I'd go with the Androids since they have data on the Z Fighters and their enemies and they also have unlimited Ki. They also can put barriers up around themselves. Yes, Cooler & Freiza do have alot of techniques but to be honest their nothing the Androids can't handle:

I don't think that Androids have Cooler data.

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Death Ball: This might work but they need to distract the Androids somehow and with it being 2 on 2 one will have to fight the other.

In the movie 5, Cooler make a full power Death Ball in few seconds.

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Also I don't see why 17 & 18 would care if the Planet blows up since the Androids can breath in Space.

Androids 17 and 18 are half humans. And the Anime and manga never stated that they can survive the space.

Good Analysis. but, You forget the Brothers Mind Power. And Is Cooler (Final form) he prefers the brutality in the fight.
And what about the Twins techniques or abilities. I only saw that A-17 has a barrier and when he is in the water he make a bubble. That not help in a fight.

spiderman · 04-23-2008

The twins wins

Winner

C-17 AND C18

SSJ4 Vegito · 04-23-2008

Well in the Movie special they had plenty of decent attacks (Which is really all you need) and yes Cooler did form a Death Ball in seconds but he needed to Distract Goku in order to do it, and I highly doubt 17 or 18 would just stand there and take a Ki Blast from Cooler.

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Cyrax (17) Super Saiyan Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 717 Rep Power: 1	Re: Brothers vs Twins. In my opinion Freeza and Cooler win because they are more Intelligent, They have more Experience and Great techniques and abilities. Android "unlimited supply of energy" is a bullshit. Freeza survive the spirit bomb and after that he had a great supply of energy to fight against SSJ Goku (a stronger enemy) __________________

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SSJ4 Vegito (18) Artificial Human Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 927 Rep Power: 2	Re: Brothers vs Twins. I'd go with the Androids since they have data on the Z Fighters and their enemies and they also have unlimited Ki. They also can put barriers up around themselves. Yes, Cooler & Freiza do have alot of techniques but to be honest their nothing the Androids can't handle: Death Beam: This is an Attack that can be evaded. Imprisonment Ball: This could come in handy but to be honest Goku broke out of it so the Androids could do it too. Death Ball: This might work but they need to distract the Androids somehow and with it being 2 on 2 one will have to fight the other. Also I don't see why 17 & 18 would care if the Planet blows up since the Androids can breath in Space. Death Saucer: They can evade it and just lead them into Cooler and Freiza. So all these techniques were defended against in the past by Goku. So I don't see why 17 & 18 couldn't do the same thing and plus their infinite stamina would give them a huge advantage. So I'm going with the Androids.

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spiderman (9) Namekian Warrior Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Germany Posts: 100 Rep Power: 0	Re: Brothers vs Twins. The twins wins Winner C-17 AND C18

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SSJ4 Vegito (18) Artificial Human Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 927 Rep Power: 2	Re: Brothers vs Twins. Well in the Movie special they had plenty of decent attacks (Which is really all you need) and yes Cooler did form a Death Ball in seconds but he needed to Distract Goku in order to do it, and I highly doubt 17 or 18 would just stand there and take a Ki Blast from Cooler.