Gohan Buu vs Baby Vegeta 1 - Page 4

apocalypse1280 · 04-23-2008

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Originally Posted by scabab

Oh and what i said was from the dub, when Rildo transforms into his 2nd Form, Goku says something like.

"I didnt think his power would increase this much" or "This is more than i expected"

Well it wouldnt surprise him if he knew in his 3rd form hes as strong as Buu.

And Goku didnt know Rildo had any more forms thats why he looked so shocked.

I see where you're coming from, I do. I just think Goku knew he was a lot stronger then what he was putting out. As far as I can remember there were a bunch of times when the Z fighters knew there opponents were holding back, it happens. Also quoting the dub means little to nothing, wouldn't recommend it.

stefzed54 · 04-23-2008

Goku knew nothing of Rildo holding back.

apocalypse1280 · 04-23-2008

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Originally Posted by stefzed54

Goku knew nothing of Rildo holding back.

Is that why Goku said he wasn't putting out half of his power, or was he just guessing?

scabab · 04-23-2008

Couldnt Rildo in his 1st form just be supressing his power, and thats what Goku meant when he says hes only using half his power, but instead of powering up he transforms.

And heres another thing, Goku says hes using half his power, so wouldnt that mean (by what your saying) Rildo in his metallic form is his full power and therefore twice as strong as Rildo 1st form?

Because i would have said Rildo in his metallic form was defiantley over 2x as powerful as in his 1st form, he goes from being weaker than Base Goku to stronger than SS1 Goku.

stefzed54 · 04-23-2008

For starters Rildo 1st change was even a transformation, he just got added parts off other machines onto him.

Metalic Rildo is something Goku didnt have a clue about, that's why he was getting beat.

apocalypse1280 · 04-23-2008

You guys are right, he did absorb the parts of the Sigma Force and transform that way, no doubt. I'm just stating what was said and what happened. Goku said his "ki" was greater then Buu's. Then said he was only showing half of his power. He asked him to show his true power, twice. They both got stronger, and the fight was even for the most part. Rilldo got the upper hand and turned him into metal. Thats it.

scabab · 04-24-2008

Well maybe Goku could sense Rildos energy and tell he was as strong as Buu in his 1st form, but Rildo wasnt fighting at full powerin his full form and was supressing himself

stefzed54 · 04-24-2008

Dont trust these dub lines where they say someone is holding back in GT, it's most likely a load of trollop. But there is a chance Goku was refering to Metalic Rildo, but we'll never know exactly! All we know for sure is, depending on your opinion, Base or SSJ Kid Goku is way stronger than Kid Buu.

apocalypse1280 · 04-24-2008

I'm speaking for myself, but when I mentioned Goku saying Rilldo was only using half his energy and telling him to show his true power..... twice, I was most definitely referring to the original Japanese. I would never, ever ever ever quote anything dub. If you do, your argument becomes pretty much dead.

And yeah, I think SSJ Kid Goku completely owns Kid Buu.

stefzed54 · 04-24-2008

Base Kid Goku completely owns Kid Buu

scabab · 04-25-2008

Well i think Base Kid Goku would destroy Buu aswell, you may think its a huge rise in power, but im sure Base Goku from the Cell Games would destroy Frieza and thats a huge increase in power too.

Senzu_Bean · 04-25-2008

I agree with apocalypse1280 in this. Rilld is stronger than Majin Buu in his true form which is his "Metallic" form. Well Rilld stated that he is the M2 planet himself.

Using a chart it will be like this:

Base Goku < Rilld 1st form << Rilld 2nd form << SSj Goku < Rilld [True form]

04-23-2008	#49 (permalink)
scabab (11) Student of Lord Kaio Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 192 Rep Power: 1	Re: Gohan Buu vs Baby Vegeta 1 Couldnt Rildo in his 1st form just be supressing his power, and thats what Goku meant when he says hes only using half his power, but instead of powering up he transforms. And heres another thing, Goku says hes using half his power, so wouldnt that mean (by what your saying) Rildo in his metallic form is his full power and therefore twice as strong as Rildo 1st form? Because i would have said Rildo in his metallic form was defiantley over 2x as powerful as in his 1st form, he goes from being weaker than Base Goku to stronger than SS1 Goku.

04-24-2008	#52 (permalink)
scabab (11) Student of Lord Kaio Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 192 Rep Power: 1	Re: Gohan Buu vs Baby Vegeta 1 Well maybe Goku could sense Rildos energy and tell he was as strong as Buu in his 1st form, but Rildo wasnt fighting at full powerin his full form and was supressing himself

04-25-2008	#56 (permalink)
scabab (11) Student of Lord Kaio Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 192 Rep Power: 1	Re: Gohan Buu vs Baby Vegeta 1 Well i think Base Kid Goku would destroy Buu aswell, you may think its a huge rise in power, but im sure Base Goku from the Cell Games would destroy Frieza and thats a huge increase in power too.

04-25-2008	#57 (permalink)
Senzu_Bean (21) Majin Warrior Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Portugal Posts: 1,707 Rep Power: 5	Re: Gohan Buu vs Baby Vegeta 1 I agree with apocalypse1280 in this. Rilld is stronger than Majin Buu in his true form which is his "Metallic" form. Well Rilld stated that he is the M2 planet himself. Using a chart it will be like this: Base Goku < Rilld 1st form << Rilld 2nd form << SSj Goku < Rilld [True form]