Dark Skywalker

I think gohan-buu would win

apocalypse1280

Not trying to argue but I disagree. What Goku said exactly was "his ki is even greater then Buu's". And when Goku was fighting him in Base they fought evenly, and he still couldn't beat him cause he survived his Kamehameha. Then Goku said he was hiding his power, and Rilldo admitted he was and then transformed. So Rilldo was hiding the power Goku felt, which was stronger then Buu's, which was his liquid metal state, and even though they fought pretty evenly, Rilldo got the upper hand and won. Thats why I say SSJ Kid Goku is slighty stronger then SSJ3 Adult Goku, but I'd put Base Kid Goku slighty below SSJ3 Adult Goku.

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Base Kid Goku was far stronger than improved versions of Cell and Frieza. In fact he was so much stronger that the two were terrified and all of Hell was shaking and Goku wasn't ven giving his fullest. I personally think that he was at least 2-3 fold stronger than the two put together. This in my opinion places him between SSJ2 Goku and SSj3 Goku (Boo saga). From there on it depends on what multipliers you use to analyze Goku's power but I personally would put SSJ3 Kid Goku at above Mystic Gohan (but not necesserily by a whole lot). And considering that Baby Vegeta was a lot stronger, I'd say he'd put up a fight against Gohan Boo but still in the end would not prevail. Super baby Vegeta on the other hand would do so.

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scabab

Im sorry but i dont understand what your trying to say. This is how i percieve it.

Goku says Rildo in his 1st Form is stronger than Buu (probabaly Kid Buu). So then Goku and Rildo fought and they were even.

So Base Goku >= Rildo 1 > Kid Buu

Then Rildo says hes hiding his power and he transforms into his 2nd form and becomes stronger, then Goku also says hes hiding his power and goes SS1.

scabab

Heres what i got.



Goku - 10
SS1 Goku - 50 (x5)
SS2 Goku - 350 (x7)
SS3 Goku - 1,050 (x3)

Majin Buu - 1,000

Super Buu – 6,000
Gotenks Buu – 12,600
Gohan Buu - 13,500

Mystic Gohan - 7,500

Kid Buu - 950

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Goku – 1,400
SS1 Goku - 4,200 (x3)
SS2 Goku – 12,500 (x3)
SS3 Goku - 25,000 (x2)

Kid Goku - 1,100
SS1 Kid Goku - 3,300 (x3)
SS2 Kid Goku - 10,000 (x3)
SS3 Kid Goku – 20,000 (x2)

Rildo 1st Form - 1000
Rildo 2nd Form - 3,000
Rildo 3rd Form - 6,000

Baby Vegeta 1 - 22,000
Baby Vegeta 2 - 35,000
Baby Vegeta 3 - 50,000
Oozaru Baby Vegeta – 500,000

apocalypse1280

This is what I'm trying to say, hopefully this is a better explanation. Goku sensed Rilldo's ki and said he was stronger than Buu. I don't think he was talking about his first form lol, thats ridiculous. Thats why Goku called him out on hiding his powers cause he knew Rilldo was stronger than what he was fighting. Base Kid Goku wouldn't be able to handle someone stronger then Buu and he knew it, thats why he said Rilldo wasn't showing his true power. When Rilldo did show it and transformed, thats when his power was stronger then Buu's and Goku had to go SSJ to compete with it.

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scabab

Right ok i get what your saying now, HOWEVER.

When Rildo transforms he absorbs the Sigma Force those 3 robots, thats not Rildos true power its just Rildo absorbing people to make him stronger, so its not like hes supressing himself.

apocalypse1280

Right, he did absorb parts from the Sigma Force, and thats how he got stronger. The guy was a machine mutant. He eventually ended up fusing with the entire planet. That is his true power, it was being suppressed. That's why he says "I never was good at acting weak", before he transforms.

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scabab

Are you saying Rildo in his Metallic Form was the one stronger than Buu?, it would have been impossible for Goku to know that while in his 1st form since he absorbed everything metal around him.

And if Goku knew Rildo was as strong as Buu he wouldn't have said "I didnt think his power would grow this much"

Well shouldnt he have known hed get stronger if he was as strong as Buu.

apocalypse1280

It's absolutely possible for Goku to sense Rilldo's power while he was in his first form. Proof of that is what he said to Rilldo, which was actually that he "hadn't been putting out half of his power". It's safe to assume Goku knew he was stronger then Buu, but wasn't fighting at that power yet. Even when Rilldo was in his second form, Goku says, "don't just stand there, show me your true power". He knew he wasn't putting out the power he sensed while fighting up to that point. Plus I just watched the full fight in Japanese, and the only thing he said about Rilldo's power was, "he has incredible power", and "you sure are strong". Unless you're quoting the dub, he doesn't say "I didnt think his power would grow this much" or whatever. Thats dead in the water.

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SSJ4 Vegito

Here's how I figured it: SSJ Kid Goku only lost to the Final Form Rilldo when he was turned into Metal where as in Hand to Hand combat they were even (More or less) So I'd say SSJ Kid Goku is around SSJ Gotenks (Post-Rosat) since I feel that the SSJ2 transformation is much more of a power up from SSJ then a SSJ3 is from a SSJ2. Since Gotenks didn't reach SSJ2 as far as I see. So I see SSJ2 Kid Goku as a pretty decent Margin ahead of SSJ3 Gotenks. I'd place him a little stronger than Mystic Gohan, so than SSJ3 is around 2.5 too 3 times stronger than a SSJ2 so that would place SSJ3 Goku (1st appearence) somewhat stronger than Gohan Buu and since Baby Vegeta is more or less at that level (Since Goku was excited about fighting him) I'd say Baby Vegeta could do it.

scabab

So apocalypse you think it should go

Metal Rildo > SS1 Kid Goku > Kid Buu > Rildo Form 2 > Base Kid Goku > Rildo Form 1

I guess its a possibility what your saying, i just dont see how Goku could possibly sense the power of Metal Rildo when hes in his 1st Form.

Its like Goku knowing sensing Perfect Cells power when hes fighting Imperfect Cell, or sensing Gohan Buus power when hes fighting Super Buu.

Its not like Rildo transformed like how Frieza could, but he absorbed things to become stronger like Cell, its not really hidden power.

scabab

Oh and what i said was from the dub, when Rildo transforms into his 2nd Form, Goku says something like.

"I didnt think his power would increase this much" or "This is more than i expected"

Well it wouldnt surprise him if he knew in his 3rd form hes as strong as Buu.

And Goku didnt know Rildo had any more forms thats why he looked so shocked.

stefzed54

Baby Vegeta 1 easily..

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