FPSS Goku vs 500 Meta Coolers - Page 4

Razz · 04-10-2008

Son Goku and Son Gohan trained their SSj forms to be their base form in the Cell Arc. Vegeta said "They look like Super Saiyans... But i dont feel the energy...! Its like... Its their natural state..." Isnt this FPSSj? And when Son Goes down to Karin he shows them about half his SSj Power. Two different Forms of Super Saiyan isnt it? Just like SSj Grade 2 and 3 (Buff forms) and the Asended Super saiyan forms like SSj2 and SSj3 are all different forms of the oringinal SSj state.

Yes FPSSj is a Fan term and i understand that it isnt "real" but just because it isnt stated doesnt mean it cant be a form.

Thats my view on the FPSSj stuff i was talking about before. I have no idea where you guys are now in the conversation.

Evil Vegeta · 04-10-2008

Yes, all of that is correct. I just never say MSSJ & SSJ are the same, because both have different effects, just similiar looks.

Remixxx · 04-10-2008

Goku kills all the coolers with one kamehameha

Senzu_Bean · 04-10-2008

Is this some kind of joke? Even Vegeta with his SSj 2nd Grade would win this. MSSj Goku would just owned them all.

I think you are talking about mastered SSj when you say full power SSj, right?

Broly · 04-10-2008

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Originally Posted by Brolyis2strong

Who wins?

I think the coolers would win.

500 meta coolers = Perfect Cell 50%

Numbers make no difference when the one they're facing is tens of times stronger than them. They may be able to regenerate, but the fact of the matter is they're not fast enough, strong enough, or powerful enough to contend with a MSSj. They'll be cast aside like little children, and easily killed.

The Electron Zone · 04-10-2008

How did Goku originally blow-up the Big Gete Star?

Cyrax · 04-10-2008

Always the Z warriors combined force destroy much powerfulls enemies.
For example:
- Gohan and Goten (Kame) vs Broly
- Goku, Vegeta, Trunks, Gohan (Better attacks) vs Hatchhyack
Why 500 Meta-Coolers can't conbined their force to kill Full power SSJ Goku?!?!!?

Senzu_Bean · 04-10-2008

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Originally Posted by Cyrax

Always the Z warriors combined force destroy much powerfulls enemies.
For example:
- Gohan and Goten (Kame) vs Broly
- Goku, Vegeta, Trunks, Gohan (Better attacks) vs Hatchhyack
Why 500 Meta-Coolers can't conbined their force to kill Full power SSJ Goku?!?!!?

- First it wasn't the Kamehameha that killed Broly but the Sun.

- Second Hatchyack isn't ten or 20 times stronger than Goku like MSSj Goku is comparing to Meta Coolas.

Cyrax · 04-10-2008

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Originally Posted by Senzu_Bean

- First it wasn't the Kamehameha that killed Broly but the Sun.

Broly die in the kame because his body explode, moreover his buble was broken. So, he can't survive in the space.

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Originally Posted by Senzu_Bean

- Second Hatchyack isn't ten or 20 times stronger than Goku like MSSj Goku is comparing to Meta Coolas.

Hachhyack vs 4.
Goku vs 500.

BurningVegeta · 04-10-2008

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Originally Posted by Cyrax

Why 500 Meta-Coolers can't conbined their force to kill Full power SSJ Goku?!?!!?

For these obvious reasons.
-FP means full power a Full Power Son Goku is Super Saiyan 4 in Dragonball Z GT. Man get it right when making topics and answering them.
-A Super Saiyan Son Goku fighting at his maximum inside the Super Saiyan transformation would own any amount of Coolers. FACT of life! Nevermind if its Super Saiyan 4.
-Read up:

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Originally Posted by burningvegeta

You know what this thread was okay before Full Powered Super Saiyan was added. I'm assuming you mean Mastered Super Saiyan. Now a full powered Super Saiyan has nothing to do with a Mastered Super Saiyan. Plus neither are transformations, their states. Nobody ever transformed into a Mastered Super Saiyan. Its called Super Saiyan and then theres the Super Saiyan grades. Nothing more nothing less.

Now a Full powered Super Saiyan means a Saiyan is using 100% of their powers. For example when Son Goku fights Perfect Cell his using 100% of his power, but he was also doing so against Frieza (100% Final Form). He wasn't a Mastered Super Saiyan in the Frieza Arc was he, that would be ridiculous. You can go full powered Super Saiyan in any of the Super Saiyan forms, the requirement is not to hold back. For example Majin Vegeta Vs Super Saiyan 2 Son Goku, Goku was holding back thus he wasn't a Full Powered Super Saiyan.

Points I'm trying to make:
-Master Super Saiyan and Full Powered Super Saiyan are not transformations.
-Master Super Saiyan and Full Powered Super Saiyan are not the same thing.

Cyrax · 04-10-2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by burningvegeta

For these obvious reasons.
-FP means full power a Full Power Son Goku is Super Saiyan 4 in Dragonball Z GT. Man get it right when making topics and answering them.
-A Super Saiyan Son Goku fighting at his maximum inside the Super Saiyan transformation would own any amount of Coolers. FACT of life! Nevermind if its Super Saiyan 4.
-Read up:

I Thought FPSSJ Goku = SSJ Goku (Perfect Cell fight)

BurningVegeta · 04-10-2008

Hmmm...he probably was dude. Son Goku or anybody else for that fact has to fight at their maximum in order to have the state Full Power(ed) (FP). You could have FP Piccolo but its just stupid or irrelevant to have, as you should already describe how that person is fighting or say whom they were and for what reasons. Though difference between Mastered and Full Powered is as you now know so I'll lay of that until the next member.

When Son Goku fights an opponent he usually tends to fight at his maximum thus gain the state Full Power(ed) (FP) anyway. When he was fighting Perfect Cell he was fighting at his maximum thus he was technically FPSSj though he was really a MSSj (Mastered Super Saiyan). It is confusing so I see why people become confused. Though Son Goku could also be fighting at Full Power in his Base, or Super Saiyan 3 for that matter gaiz.

Senzu_Bean · 04-10-2008

Why complicate that much burningvegeta? I know what you mean and you have some right but Full Power Super Saiyan is a fan term just like Mastered Super Saiyan is to describe the Super Saiyan form after the user become used to it.

BurningVegeta · 04-10-2008

If you find it complicated read it again and again until it sinks in.

Explaining something to me, saves me thinking "FPSS Goku vs 500 Meta Coolers" hold on thats Super Saiyan 4 Son Goku fighting without holding back. That Fan-terminology is wrong then...there are countless amounts of times when Son Goku, Son Gohan, and Vegeta have been Mastered Super Saiyans are haven't gave it there all. It's the wrong words to use so why use it.

Vegerotto · 04-10-2008

When Goku and Vegeta attacked the Meta-Cooler's at the same time, they eradicated it. MSSJ Goku is easily stronger than Goku and Vegeta combined. If you're going by the logic that quantity > quality, then why didn't the Red Ribbon Army destroy Goku? There were hundreds of them weren't there?

Unless you're close in power, think Gohan and Krillin vs Goku/Ginyu, numbers have no effect on what you can fight. Goku and Piccolo were beaten easily by Raditz when they fought, and the difference between them and Raditz was much lower than the difference between a MSSJ Goku and a Meta-Cooler.

04-10-2008	#46 (permalink)
Razz (15) Super Namekian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Watertown, WI Posts: 468 Rep Power: 4	Re: FPSS Goku vs 500 Meta Coolers Son Goku and Son Gohan trained their SSj forms to be their base form in the Cell Arc. Vegeta said "They look like Super Saiyans... But i dont feel the energy...! Its like... Its their natural state..." Isnt this FPSSj? And when Son Goes down to Karin he shows them about half his SSj Power. Two different Forms of Super Saiyan isnt it? Just like SSj Grade 2 and 3 (Buff forms) and the Asended Super saiyan forms like SSj2 and SSj3 are all different forms of the oringinal SSj state. Yes FPSSj is a Fan term and i understand that it isnt "real" but just because it isnt stated doesnt mean it cant be a form. Thats my view on the FPSSj stuff i was talking about before. I have no idea where you guys are now in the conversation.

04-10-2008	#48 (permalink)
Remixxx (24) Super Saiyan 4 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Planet Neptune Posts: 3,387 Rep Power: 66	Re: FPSS Goku vs 500 Meta Coolers Goku kills all the coolers with one kamehameha __________________

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Senzu_Bean (22) Super Saiyan 3 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Portugal Posts: 1,891 Rep Power: 11	Re: FPSS Goku vs 500 Meta Coolers Is this some kind of joke? Even Vegeta with his SSj 2nd Grade would win this. MSSj Goku would just owned them all. I think you are talking about mastered SSj when you say full power SSj, right?

04-10-2008	#51 (permalink)
The Electron Zone Naruto Ranked (25) Rokubi Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Between The Wakes Of What Seems Death And Life Posts: 4,301 Blog Entries: 7 Rep Power: 65	Re: FPSS Goku vs 500 Meta Coolers How did Goku originally blow-up the Big Gete Star? __________________

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Cyrax (20) Super Saiyan 2 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Argentina Posts: 1,450 Rep Power: 10	Re: FPSS Goku vs 500 Meta Coolers Always the Z warriors combined force destroy much powerfulls enemies. For example: - Gohan and Goten (Kame) vs Broly - Goku, Vegeta, Trunks, Gohan (Better attacks) vs Hatchhyack Why 500 Meta-Coolers can't conbined their force to kill Full power SSJ Goku?!?!!? __________________ Freeza, Cooler, Janemba and Hatchhyack fan. My AMVs: *Freeza:* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmu-u_EhXwg Metal Cooler: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUUUoYscVrA Janemba: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5buLCXzpq1A

04-10-2008	#57 (permalink)
BurningVegeta (25) Kami of Earth Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: The 10th Heaven: Naherangi Posts: 4,297 Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 112	Re: FPSS Goku vs 500 Meta Coolers Hmmm...he probably was dude. Son Goku or anybody else for that fact has to fight at their maximum in order to have the state Full Power(ed) (FP). You could have FP Piccolo but its just stupid or irrelevant to have, as you should already describe how that person is fighting or say whom they were and for what reasons. Though difference between Mastered and Full Powered is as you now know so I'll lay of that until the next member. When Son Goku fights an opponent he usually tends to fight at his maximum thus gain the state Full Power(ed) (FP) anyway. When he was fighting Perfect Cell he was fighting at his maximum thus he was technically FPSSj though he was really a MSSj (Mastered Super Saiyan). It is confusing so I see why people become confused. Though Son Goku could also be fighting at Full Power in his Base, or Super Saiyan 3 for that matter gaiz. __________________

04-10-2008	#58 (permalink)
Senzu_Bean (22) Super Saiyan 3 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Portugal Posts: 1,891 Rep Power: 11	Re: FPSS Goku vs 500 Meta Coolers Why complicate that much burningvegeta? I know what you mean and you have some right but Full Power Super Saiyan is a fan term just like Mastered Super Saiyan is to describe the Super Saiyan form after the user become used to it.

04-10-2008	#59 (permalink)
BurningVegeta (25) Kami of Earth Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: The 10th Heaven: Naherangi Posts: 4,297 Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 112	Re: FPSS Goku vs 500 Meta Coolers If you find it complicated read it again and again until it sinks in. Explaining something to me, saves me thinking "FPSS Goku vs 500 Meta Coolers" hold on thats Super Saiyan 4 Son Goku fighting without holding back. That Fan-terminology is wrong then...there are countless amounts of times when Son Goku, Son Gohan, and Vegeta have been Mastered Super Saiyans are haven't gave it there all. It's the wrong words to use so why use it. __________________

04-10-2008	#60 (permalink)
Vegerotto (14) Warrior of Namek Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 370 Rep Power: 11	Re: FPSS Goku vs 500 Meta Coolers When Goku and Vegeta attacked the Meta-Cooler's at the same time, they eradicated it. MSSJ Goku is easily stronger than Goku and Vegeta combined. If you're going by the logic that quantity > quality, then why didn't the Red Ribbon Army destroy Goku? There were hundreds of them weren't there? Unless you're close in power, think Gohan and Krillin vs Goku/Ginyu, numbers have no effect on what you can fight. Goku and Piccolo were beaten easily by Raditz when they fought, and the difference between them and Raditz was much lower than the difference between a MSSJ Goku and a Meta-Cooler.