Majuub

I don't see where I contradicted myself. You guys said ''Sorry this is canon section'', I said he wasn't canon so that's why I used the anime as a base, and now you seem to agree with me that he isn't canon. Why trying to have a canon base for a non canon character, it hardly makes sense.

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uki1234

Toei's guess that Vegeto is around Gohan Buu is wrong...

I thought that this is canon SSJ Gogeta vs Vegeto...

Majuub

How do you know it's wrong. I think their base Vegeto is more reliable than anyone's base Vegeto around here. It should be theoritical than, because Gogeta doesn't even exist in the canon universe. You could say ''Theoritical can fusion dance of Goku and Vegeta at SSJ vs base Vegeto''

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uki1234

Well its not that hard to imagine Goku and Vegeta fused ;)

After all there is a great difference. Toei's SSJ Gogeta is a god, since he's shown to be A LOT stronger than SSJ3 Goku, who's stronger than Kid Buu, who's stronger than Gohan Buu...

In anime Vegeto only goes SSJ so he can humiliate Buu even more. It is hinted that even without SSJ he could rape him, and in manga we know that a char doesn't go higher level than needed to win a fight and vice versa, in other words Gohan Buu >> Vegeto.

deckzone3000

You're not new to DBZ, you should know Gohan-Buu > Kid Buu

Actually, characters have done that lots of times in DBZ.

uki1234

You are not brainless, you should know I was talking about anime(Toei's characters).

"Actually, characters have done that lots of times in DBZ."

When?

Majuub

In the manga he teased him and provoked him in order to get absorbed. There is also the fact he could have been a little stronger than Shin Buu but the regenerative abilities of Buu would have given him the edge. =/

It could have been exactly like the fight between Goku and Chibi Buu, Goku wasn't owining Chibi Buu but he had the edge, the same could be said for base Vegeto and Shin Buu, Vegeto could have been just barely stronger at base but not enough to force an absorption.

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apocalypse1280

Good thing this was moved to the GT/movies section. Now people can stop crying. If it's base Vegito, SSJ Gogeta makes him eat his own shit.

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Toei doesn't show Kid Buu > Gohan-Buu

Frieza going to his 2nd form against Vegeta/Gohan/Krillin.
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Vegeta going ASSJ against Semi-Perfect Cell.

gkrt

In the Anime and Manga, Gohan Buu is always stronger than Kid Buu. Actually he's about 20x more powerful than him.

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Actually he isnt.

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gogeta because he has better hair....lol jk but gogeta

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OK first of all I want to clear things out here. No one can clearly say that Vegetto is better than Super Gogeta. Vegetto won't even last 30 seconds against Super Gogeta. It makes more sense if we compare Super Vegetto and Super Gogeta. You guys are just underestimating the power of the Fusion Dance. The time limit doesn't make the Fusion Dance weaker than the Potarra Earrings. Its just an additional disadvantage. But the result of the Fusion Dance can clearly surpass any obstacle within the 30 minutes time limit. Also, I would like to state that Super Janemba can perfectly own Super Buu (Gohan absorbed). Super Janemba has a higher powerlevel than Super Buu (Gohan absorbed).

We see in the Manga and Anime that before fusing using the Potarra Earrings, Vegeta was dead (he had the Halo) and Goku was alive. People who are dead (with the Halo) are weaker than their original state. Thus, Vegeta was weaker than usual and Goku had his normal power and then they fused into Vegetto. But in Gogeta's case, both of the Saiyans had the Halo (both were dead) that means that both, Vegeta and Goku, were weaker than they normally are. Despite their weaker power (due to the Halo), they still fused into Super Gogeta. Super Gogeta also had the Halo, which made him additionally weaker than his true power. But, despite that, Super Gogeta clearly surpassed Super Janemba with an amazing display of skill and strength. Super Janemba > Super Buu (Gohan Absorbed), and Super Gogeta (with the Halo) beat Super Janemba, which means that he can easily take on Super Buu (Gohan Absorbed). Super Vegetto was without the Halo (which means he had his true power), but still didn't finish off Super Buu (Gohan Absorbed) quickly enough. Which shows why I think Super Gogeta can own Super Vegetto.

Another reason is that the Potarra Earrings can only fuse 2 people if they are in their base form. If Vegeta and Goku went Super Saiyan 4 and then used the Potarra Earrings, it wouldn't work. Fusion Dance can be used even if they went Super Saiyan 4. That reason gives Fusion Dance an additional advantage over the Potarra Earrings.

We already know that there will never be a fight between these two leviathans. But we can see their strength in their moves. Super Vegetto's strongest attack is the Final Kamehameha, and Super Gogeta's strongest attack is the Soul Punisher (aka Stardust Breaker, Rainbow Sparkling Blast). A Final Kamehameha is the combined ki of both the Final Flash and the Kamehameha, but it doesn't kill or destroy Super Buu (Gohan Absorbed), now does it? And as compared to any other attack, the Final Kamehameha is just a mere gathering of huge amounts of Ki and then launching it as a blast. But if we look at the Soul Punisher, we see that Super Gogeta forms a baseball sized rainbow coloured energy ball in his hand and hurls it at the opponent. The Soul Punisher explodes the opponent from the inside which is a guarantee that anyone can die when caught in this move. Super Vegetto's Final Kamehameha isn't a complete guarantee that the enemy will die.

Thus, Super Gogeta is better and stronger than Super Vegetto!

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Majuub

First of all, no Janemba doesn't come anywhere close to Shin Buu.

Janemba was toying with Goku it was clear, but it's not like Goku could at least put up a meagre match. Goku wouldn't even touch Shin Buu if he fought him, he stands absolutely no chance against him, he couldn't even put up the single little bit of resistance. At least against Janemba he put up some resistance.



No, no one is stronger dead or alive. They have the exact same power, the only difference is the fact that when someone is dead, his Ki lasts much much longer than when that person is alive. We've seens that with SSJ3 Goku, he said himself the SSJ3 was more suited for a dead body since it's a technic with a very limited lenght. When he was fighting Fat Buu, he was dead but he didn't even notice the Ki drain because basically there was no Ki drain but against Chibi Buu he noticed it pretty quickly. Your point is wrong, dead characters aren't weaker than alive characters, they last longer.

Dead SSJ3 Goku>Alive SSJ3 Goku

Super Janemba>Shin Buu(Gohan absorbed) no, not at all.

When Goku saw Shin Buu for the first time the first thing that came to his mind was to find someone to fuse with, he was panicking and said everything was doomed. When he saw Janemba for the first time at least, even Vegeta tried to fight Janemba. Vegeta didn't even try to fight Shin Buu, he just felt his Ki and he was so scared he fused right away. With Janemba Goku had to push him. The played hide and seek and both Goku and Vegeta were trying to come up with a plan to kill Janemba, with Shin Buu(Gohan absorbed) they tried nothing, nothing at all, they just fused and when Goku saw him he fled like a coward.

The difference between SSJ3 Goku and Shin Buu is the same as the difference between SSJ Gotenks and Shin Buu. Clearly, Goku wasn't that badly outmatched against Janemba.

Shin Buu(Gohan absorbed)>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Janemba

Where the hell did you get that from? The only difference between the two fusion is the fact that with the potaras, the characters don't have to be at the same level of power. That would give the edge to Vegeto since when fusing as Gogeta, Goku has to lower his power but it's not the case with Vegeto.


Vegeto never did his most powerful attack nor did Gogeta. Gogeta's soul punisher didn't seem like his most powerful attack since he didn't put up too much power into it. Vegeto never did a final Kamehameha in the canon universe, therefore this logic is flawed. Nothing suggests the soul punisher is Gogeta's most powerful attack since it's the only attack he used. Everything Gogeta can do, Vegeto can do it, they're basically the same only with Vegeto being more powerful.

Hell no.

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