Goku Super Saiyan 4

There are many reasons as to why I think Gogeta is stronger than Vegito.
1. It was never mentioned in the series that the Potarra Earrings were better than the Fusion Dance.
2. Vegito required his Super form to beat Super Buu (Gohan absorbed). If you look at Super Buu's (Gohan absorbed) power level and Goku Super Saiyan 4's power level you'll see what I mean.
3. The Potarra Earrings can't fuse the two wearers if they were Super Saiyan or higher.
4. Super Gogeta has beaten Super Janemba (2nd strongest villain in the entire Dragon Ball, Z, GT universe)
5. Gogeta SSJ4 has beaten Omega Shenron (strongest villain in the Dragon Ball, Z, GT universe)

You see, the Potarra fusion doesn't have any Super Saiyan transformation. Only the Fusion Dance does. Despite Gogeta's 30 minute dead line, that is all the time he needs to finish off Vegito. Vegito's highest fusion is Super Vegito and Gogeta's is Gogeta Super Saiyan 4. Super Vegeto's power level isn't even a fraction of Gogeta Super Saiyan 4's power level!

Majuub

1. Yes it was stated the potaras work even better.

2. SSJ4 isn't canon, so it can't be used in this discussion, it's from GT and is absolutely irrelevant to this topic. There is nothing to suggest Vegeto's base form wasn't enough to take down Shin Buu

3. It was the opposite in fact, it seems they thought the two fighters had to be SSJ or they couldn't go higher when fused. It doesn't matter in both case, if they fuse in base form, they can go SSJ after the fusion, it applies for the potaras and the dance.

4. Janemba is from a movie, therefore he isn't canon and just like SSJ4 Goku is irrelevant to this topic. Janemba is probably weaker than all the forms of ''Super Buu'' so it proves nothing since Vegeto easily beat someone much stronger than Janemba.

5. Again, GT,SSJ4 can't be used in a canon discussion. Nothing suggests SSJ4 Vegeto couldn't have done the same, and if you look at it that way, SSJ3 Vegeto should have been more than enough to take out Yi Xing Long(Omega Shenron)

It seems you have a severe lack of informations, anyways, we are there to provide you with some.

You can try and make a case as to why Vegeto would be much stronger than Gogeta, but you simply can't say Gogeta is stronger than Vegeto as there is not a single statement that implies the dance is better than the earrings, in fact, it's the opposite. At best, and I mean, if you're a biased Gogeta fan boy, Gogeta is on par with Vegeto, and at the very worst, Vegeto dominates him baddly.

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Ames

It's alright, it seems like that at first when you're not exposed to fact in the canon/non canon universe. Alot of people have explained every reason why Vegeto is superior to Gogeta (although Gogeta did reach a higher level). At best Vegeto>/=Gogeta.

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sub_zero

Vegito

stefzed54

SSJ gogeta with ease

deckzone3000

base Vegito >= Mystic Gohan > SSJ3 Gotenks >= SSJ Gogeta

uki1234

base Vegeto >= Mystic Gohan > SSJ3 Gotenks > SSJ Gogeta

stefzed54

Yeah if you use a 5000x Potara multiplier.

Mystic Gohan > SSJ Gogeta > SSJ3 Gotenks > Base Vegito >= Super Buu

deckzone3000

Or 361x

example-
veg: 80
goku: 100
ss goku: 500
ss2 goku: 4000
ss3 goku: 12000
ss gotenks: 15000
ss3 gotenks: 45000
mystic gohan: 65000

65000 / (100+80) = 361

stefzed54

I see.

100 + 80 = 180 x361= 64980

I believe Mystic Gohan is stronger by your numbers

Just one question, why is Base Goku 100? In comparison to Mystic Gohan he should be 1 and Gohan should be a rough 28800

uki1234

How in the world SSJ3 Gotenks / SSJ Gotenks = 3, and SSJ3 Goku / SSJ Goku = 24????

That makes perfectly no sense.

SSJ3 from base is same for all characters, as well SSJ and SSJ2 are.

Madness

I think Vegetto has the edge slightly, as the fighters don't have to match their powers. Apart from that, I put them very similar.

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stefzed54

I was thinking the same.

Madness

The thing is... that's a presumption. Everybody could easily have different numbers for their transformations. Neither side can prove anything towards that.

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Unruly_Saiyajin

Lol can't wait to take a crack at this since it so insanely funny.

Janemba and SSJ4 don't count so :P

1.) Not getting into this fight but yah it was.

2.)SSJ4 did not exist yet. Also remeber Vegito is permanent, he is also a completely new being not a fusion of two. Therefore, when he goes SSJ all the rules apply to a Saiyajin. What I mean is he would have had to experience extreme emotion to go SSJ, but he was able to go SSJ by just forcing his extreme power.

Vegito's SSJ is stronger than SSJ3 Goku.

Vegito would have to actually train to reach SSJ2 form since he's never gone it before and technically shouldn't be able to go SSJ2 since he would need to train/master his SSJ form first.

3.)Uhhh, yah it can, the Potara fuses any two beings regardless of power or anything else.

*Remember the hypothetical Goku + Dende or Goku + Hercule?

4.)No....Super 17 can wipe the floor with Super Janemba and I was just naming a random GT villan. From DBZ I bet Super Buu was much stronger than Super Janemba

5.)Gogeta SSJ4 did not exist yet

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